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#2521084 Spezza?

Posted by number9 on 18 May 2014 - 06:24 PM

I was drunk and agreeable lol

#2521030 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by number9 on 18 May 2014 - 07:11 AM

When it comes to big names on the market we have...
















Think we should pursue any of those guys? that's only like 13 players that could probably step in and half ass Niskanen or Alfredsson's job at a fraction of the price. Screw it sign Niskanen and Iginla and let those losers walk 

#2521027 2014 Memorial Cup

Posted by number9 on 18 May 2014 - 06:35 AM

I remember a certain RichDG whining and moaning about our 2013 draft selections. I'm beyond giddy that about 5 of those 8 are already showing stellar promise. When is Axe coming back?

#2520824 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by number9 on 16 May 2014 - 12:16 PM

You got me.  I thought all Red Wings entered the NHL having already won the Stanley Cup.  But then you dropped this knowledge on me and WHAMMO, reality check. 
Boyle, Iginla, Alfie, and everyone like them are losers.  Yes they've had successful careers and blah, blah, blah, but I'd rather we give the spots to young guys and let them develop a winning culture by...ya know...winning (and perhaps losing) together like they did in GR, rather than give their roster spots to a bunch of old hacks who haven't ever won anything. 
Realistically we're years from another Cup anyway.  Lets use those years developing a new core of winners instead of washed up has-beens. 

Yeah Rafalski was a loser too... Hell even Hull and Robitallie were losers.

Gimme break. Kip, ur not usually one to hold irrational bias but ur doing just that at the moment.

Sproul and Ouellet are still big ? And we have money to spend. Signing a Boyle wouldn't be a terrible loser decision.

#2520757 Dan Boyle not coming back to the Sharks

Posted by number9 on 16 May 2014 - 08:38 AM

I'm ok with trying Boyle but only as one year deal and I'm not paying him big money. If he wants money or years let him go somewhere else. I'd rather go after Niskanen and/or Zidlicky

Niskanen would be good but much rather grab Boyle than Zidlicky

#2520745 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by number9 on 16 May 2014 - 07:43 AM

Sign Alfie, Boyle, and the kids. done.

#2519896 Wings have the #1 & #2 most overpaid players (per point) in the NH

Posted by number9 on 09 May 2014 - 05:49 PM

Ya but Weiss was injured all year, even while he was playing. Sammy was just a terrible contract from the beginning, everyone but Holland knew that

I gave the shin pad assassin the benefit of the doubt when holland first signed him. A little pricey but had chemistry with the wings in the past. Then he was injured all season. Ok, could return to form yet, has playing experience with Weiss. Then he pooped the bed this season, so I'll eat the crow on that one. Terrible signing.

Im a huge Whalers fan and always loved Weiss. I'm praying he doesn't turn out exactly like Sammy right now.

#2519802 Ken Holland Quotes (Apr 29th

Posted by number9 on 09 May 2014 - 12:29 AM

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I would, but I'd feel bad embarrassing Datsyuk

#2519801 Will Mantha join GR after the QMJHL playoffs?

Posted by number9 on 09 May 2014 - 12:24 AM

I'd pay Ovechkin $30M a year just to bomb it from his sweet spot on our power play.

And I'd pay Datsyuk $10M a year to actually play hockey

#2519726 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by number9 on 08 May 2014 - 12:13 PM

We need a top line scorer, a top power forward, a shut down D man, a puck moving D man, a new starting goalie, multiple gritty bottom 6 forwards, a new coach, and a new GM.

If we do that will everyone be happy?

#2519420 Wings Advanced Puck Possession Stats

Posted by number9 on 06 May 2014 - 12:58 PM

So I saw a Leafs fan do this, and for them all of their fighters ended up at the bottom of the list, so I thought it might actually be a semi decent metric and wanted to see how the Wings lined up.


Corsi F% is basically an advance stats proxy for puck possession. (Shots + shots missed the net + shots blocked for your team and the others while a player is on the ice)


The Leafs fan did Corsi F%, minus Corsi F% of linemates, plus the Corsi F% of opposition. So basically it's CF% adjusted for the strength of competition and strength of linemates.


Here's the numbers for the Wings during regular season 5x5 play:


  1. Tatar 0.563 - 0.500 + 0.496 = .559
  2. Datsyuk 0.561 - 0.500 + 0.494 = .555
  3. Nyquist 0.546 - 0.510 + 0.501 = .537
  4. Sheahan 0.561 - 0.522 + 0.494 = .533
  5. Jurco 0.558 - 0.524 + 0.494 = .528
  6. Zetterberg 0.532 - 0.517 + 0.508 = .523
  7. Helm 0.531 - 0.508 + 0.492 = .515
  8. Legwand 0.496 - 0.492 + 0.501 = .505
  9. Alfredsson 0.513 - 0.511 + 0.495 = .497
  10. Franzen 0.511 - 0.514 + 0.500 = .497
  11. Samuelsson 0.505 - 0.505 + 0.497 = .497
  12. Emmerton 0.502 - 0.505 + 0.498 = .495
  13. Abdelkader 0.508 - 0.518 + 0.503 = .493
  14. Andersson 0.500 - 0.515 + 0.495 = .480
  15. Miller 0.489 - 0.510 + 0.494 = .473
  16. Bertuzzi 0.496 - 0.524 + 0.497 = .469
  17. Cleary 0.473 - 0.512 + 0.499 = .460
  18. Glendening 0.462 - 0.518 + 0.495 = .439
  19. Weiss 0.420 - 0.520 + 0.505 = .405


I was glad to see all the kids right up there with Datsyuk and Zetterberg. A testament to how well they've worked in our puck possession system so far. Defensive players like Abdelkader, Miller, Andersson, and Glendening ranked low, which didn't surprise me bc most don't have the offensive ability to possess the puck a lot. Not surprisingly either is how low Weiss, Cleary, and Bertuzzi are, all guys that should have shown more offense.


These numbers are far from 100% reflective of puck possession skill, but if we were to go off them a puck possession team should ice this forward lineup next year:


Tatar - Datsyuk - Nyquist

Zetterberg - Sheahan - Jurco

Legwand - Helm - Alfredsson/Franzen

Abdelkader - Andersson - Alfredsson/Franzen


I think most would agree with that lineup or some variation of it. We also have Weiss who's numbers could be much better next year.


Thoughts on the calculations or results? It's very moneyballish so take it for what it's worth

#2519391 So who are the top RHed Dmen?

Posted by number9 on 06 May 2014 - 11:17 AM

That's not really true. There was a 4 year period when the wings didn't choose any right-handed Defencemen, but that was back in 2001-2004. We chose 2 in 2000 so there were those guys in the propect pool and we had Chelios, Dandenault, Krupp on the roster for those years and even Olausson in 2001 so there wasn't much need for rightys. Since 2005, there has been a lot of RH D chosen, but the draft picks just haven't worked out.
Right-handed Defence draft picks since 2000:
2000: Paul Ballantyne
2000: Alexaner Seluyanov
2005: Juho Mielonen
2005: Bretton Stamler
2006: Logan Pyett
2008: Max Nicastro
2009: Nick Jensen
2011: Ryan Sproul
2011: Marchenko
From everything I have read, It looks incredibly likely that Marchenko and Sproul will be on the Red Wings in the future.

I wouldn't completely rule out Jensen or even Nicastro either

#2519276 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by number9 on 05 May 2014 - 01:58 PM

Hi people. Just found this place while searching for Red Wings draft needs and considerations. Wow. Seems like a lot of people know what to do!! I think the main hole they need to fill is top line sniper. I wonder if Ovechkin talks are out of the question???

Welcome to LGW. Yes, we all know what to do. In fact everyone here agrees we should trade Franzen for Ovechkin straight up.

#2519206 Now some gritty forwards.

Posted by number9 on 04 May 2014 - 09:30 PM

F Michael and Bama I sorta disagree with u. I think Holland has tried to draft a new core over the last years... Going after guys like Goose, Tatar, Pulkinen, Almqvist, ironhook, Etc. But once he got those guys he started peppering in size and grit more and more. AKA Bodin, Hudon, Callahan, McKee, Glendening, Mcnulty, Bertuzzi, Wheaton, etc. Sheehan and Jurco are bit gritty and big themselves as well. Holland knows these future Grindy types will compliment his up and coming core.

Of course we will always favor soft euros, it's where our best scouts are, but holland isn't dumb. He's not taking them only and he's taking them less now that he has a lot of them.

Agreed guys. Holland used to talk about needing 1 big forward per line. That was why he brought Bert back the second time. he knew what was needed, and that was while we were still a team in the west. Now in the more rugged east it might be 2 big F's per line. Yes he has started drafting bigger F's the past few years, but most of them have been Euro's: Tvardon, nestrasil, Jurco, etc..... Last year he finally grabbed mantha-more sniper than gritty and nastasiuk who is fairly gritty. But those guys are still down the road a bit.

Ok, completely ignore every large or gritty player He's drafted. He's done a lot more than draft those 5 in the grit and size department

#2519019 Will Mantha join GR after the QMJHL playoffs?

Posted by number9 on 03 May 2014 - 01:50 AM

Buying out players only happens when there significantly overpaid. Franzen, regardless of ur own qualms with him, is worth 4 million, and would get more than that per year on the open market. Tootoo, whether u like him or not, doesn't play, and is therefore worthy of a buyout.

Sure Franzen has that ridiculously long contract, but I'm willing to bet he's still enough decent at 38. If I'm wrong when that rolls around ill change toon, but till then I believe