Also agreed. Although I'd caution anyone against thinking would be likely on our team. I'd be amazed if he put up 50 pts. with our anemic offense.
But sure, on the right team, with the right roster, and the right system, vets can be a big help. For those of us (like me) who are skeptical of signing more aging vets, I think the argument is that we're not the right team. Teams full of high end talent in their primes can add around the edges with aging vets. A team full of guys who are aging and injury prone probably shouldn't (is my argument).
But they can all be best friends
I've stated before that Iginla on the top line is my preference (accompanied by a Franzen buyout and a hearty farewell to Alfie)
You're right, this is a good time and place to discuss buying out Franzen again
Fair enough. But you're being dismissive. It's just as wrong to suggest age doesn't matter at all as to suggest that it's the only thing that matters. Surely you'd agree that there is some downside to exclusively targeting past their prime vets, no?
Agreed, but the tendency around here is outrage over signing anyone even approaching the twilight of their career. Iginla contributed 61 pts last year, that's better than most players currently in their prime.
2 years ago when I first joined this fine forum I talked about we need to pick up O'Reilly during his holdout. Most thought I was crazy and that he wasn't worth it. Now everyone agrees he is a great player. Just think, we could have drafted him instead of Ferrero.......LOL 1 pick later.......
Those that think a bunch of our old always injured forwards are going to score a bunch of goals are smoking some good s***! Please pass it around! Datsyuk, Z, Weiss, Franzen, helm, now Alfie again, can't stay healthy. That is going to make it tough for them to score a bunch of goals. As of today-still June so things can still change, we are going to struggle offensively in the 14/15 season scoring. Injuries will happen. All those rookies that played so well last year are heading to the dreaded soph. season. There will be struggles. Which ones and how much? No idea. But just becasue player X score Y in half a season don't bet on it doubling by playing the whole year. If Sheahan and Jurco can both get to 75 games played and 15 G each, I will be happy. If tatar gets to 20 that is good. Same with Nyquist. The other teams have seen them and they will game plan for them now.
Why oh why did we not realize your infinite wisdom 2 years ago? Why?
Wake up, have coffee
Complain about franzen (honourable mention of hossa)
Take a shower
Complain about babs/Holland/being too soft
Complain about franzen
Complain more about franzen
Complain even more about franzen....
This is the song that never ends...
Na that's the routine of about 3 LGWers who apparently know better than professional hockey minds
When you give an over-ripe player a shot at the NHL you know he's getting his best chance. He's had ample time to prepare. If he doesn't cut it, it wasn't meant to be anyway. Sinking players in the minors also gives you the best contracts. They will all be deflated bc they haven't proven anything at an NHL level either. Wings have known about this for years, and are still great because of it, despite picking low every year. Damn Nill for letting the word out!
He played 82 games, so of course he'd be among the team leaders in these categories.
Doesn't mean he's a good or effective hitter. He's a decent PK man, but our PK wasn't that good when it counted in the postseason.
Highest PK time per game as well. Still has the best gva to tka ratio too. Only forwards who really did better in hits per game are Abdelkader, Tootoo, Helm and Jurco. So basically Miller is our best 4th liner checker at the moment. I won't claim he's a bigger hitter, but the kid grinds, is fast, and smart in the D zone. He's a great PK man.
Were there not at least one or two games where Gustavsson gave us more than a chance to win in the shootout. I'm thinking specifically of a game against Tampa when he stopped 6 out of 7 or 7 out of 8, but our forwards couldn't score a single goal (http://scores.espn.g...ameId=400484719).
I think certain people are also forgetting how he played in the playoffs when he was called on at the last minute - he played well enough that you weren't worried when he was put back in the next game. Other back-ups buckled in the same scenario (Tampa, Montreal, before they called up Tokarski).
Gus was a great back up this year. anyone who says otherwise is leftwinger