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#2561559 1/7 GDT: Red Wings 3 at Flames 2

Posted by number9 on 07 January 2015 - 10:46 PM

Bad mistake by Ouellet. That's why we take our time with prospects. Minimize that stuff.

#2560872 Randy Carlyle relieved of his duties by Leafs

Posted by number9 on 06 January 2015 - 11:09 AM


I hope they hire torts. Miss that guy


#2560743 1/3 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Canucks 4

Posted by number9 on 05 January 2015 - 06:59 PM

I think Bab's is pulling the sports psychology long-con. No matter what Weiss does, it's not good enough. Oh you scored 2 goals? Call me when you score 3, 4, 5 etc.


Then one day, just when Weiss can't grit his teeth and fight for it at 110% on the 4th line any longer, Zetterberg and Datsyuk both go down with injuries.


It's time.


First shift on the 1st line Weiss goes coast to coast, performs a triple sow cow, and then rockets the mother of all slappers into the goalies logo pushing the goalie and the puck into the back of the net.


Babs lights a cigar behind the bench.


At least that's how the colorful story book in my head plays out.

#2560595 Pens aquire David Perron from Oilers

Posted by number9 on 04 January 2015 - 12:52 PM

Stuart, Bertuzzi, Lang, Schneider, Chelios, Clark...


Maybe more. 


Of the 6 you listed only two are post-cap era trade additions. People act like we used to wheel and deal our prospects for players in their prime, but we haven't done that post cap.

#2560584 Time for Teemu?

Posted by number9 on 04 January 2015 - 11:06 AM

I saw a fantasy team once named "Teemu's Salami"

#2560438 1/3 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Canucks 4

Posted by number9 on 03 January 2015 - 11:39 PM

They shouldn't be, imho.


Blows my mind

#2560355 Pens aquire David Perron from Oilers

Posted by number9 on 03 January 2015 - 06:57 PM

Nobody ever wanted him 5 minutes before he was traded. Do we really want to be like the pens. Throwing away all our picks and prospects at the deadline every year for rentals and mortgaging the future

The years of unloading picks will catch up to them one day. They're gonna go to the cupboard for a call up and there won't be anything there.

#2560311 Detroit's Stifling Defence (TSN.ca)

Posted by number9 on 03 January 2015 - 01:55 PM



Agreed.  I'm guessing it has a lot to do with our blueline.  If you look at who gets the fewest offensive zone starts on the team, it's Miller, Andersson and Glendening by a country mile.  Even trustworthy guys like Zetterberg and Datsyuk start in the offensive zone 60% of the time.  Kindl and Lashoff, unsurprisingly start in the offensive zone 70% of the time. 




I think that line is vastly under-appreciated. It's the only line that has been intact all season and consistently worked.

#2560306 Are the Wings a Contender?

Posted by number9 on 03 January 2015 - 01:44 PM

Also, we've lost some games. True contenders (e.g. Kings, Blues, Bruins) don't lose games. Shawn Thornton was available, but Ken Holland is an idiot and so he let him go to the Panthers. Do you think it's a coincidence that the Panthers have beaten us twice? Thornton and Mitchell and Bolland give them toughness and leadership and character, something the Wings completely lack.


We'll be lucky to make the playoffs.


Truculence :boxing:

#2560304 Detroit's Stifling Defence (TSN.ca)

Posted by number9 on 03 January 2015 - 01:40 PM

I don't have a problem with the newer analytics themselves (admittedly I'm still sorting out what all the stats measure).  The problem I have is how routinely they're misused and misinterpreted, including this article. 


They call Sheahan Detroit's best shot suppressor, then point out he starts more than 62% of his shifts in the offensive zone.  So in one sentence they've drawn a faulty conclusion from the statistics and even included the reason why they're wrong.  


Very likely Sheahan isn't Detroit's best shot suppressor.  When you start the vast majority of your shifts in the offensive zone, that means your opponent has to go a long way to register a shot attempt.  Glendening on the other hand, starts in the offensive zone less than 33% of the time.  Two-thirds of his shifts, he's starting in front of his own net, so there's going to be a lot more shot attempts from his opponent. 


Then in subtler ways, they often use language that draws conclusions not supported by the stats.  It's not that Sheahan himself only "allows" 37.7 shot attempts per 60 minutes of play.  It means that when Sheahan is on the ice, the other team only gets 37.7 shot attempts per 60 minutes of play.  That's it.  But people constantly make the logical leap that the statistic says something specifically that a player is doing on the ice.  That's a HUGE difference.  


I think it's interesting that Babs is starting to specialize his players zone starts. A few years ago I remember reading an article about players zone starts by team. Detroit was the closest to an even 50%. Meaning Datsyuk, Franzen, Hudler, Filppula, Helm, Ericsson, everyone, was required to play both O and D. Now we see guys like Luker being used heavily as a defensive weapon.

#2560303 Pens aquire David Perron from Oilers

Posted by number9 on 03 January 2015 - 01:32 PM


He's a right-shot winger in the prime of his career who scored 30 goals for the Oilers. (He got lucky. He'll never score 30 again. But still.) He plays with an edge, likes to agitate, goes to the dirty areas, is a pain in the ass to play against - but he's also skilled enough to be considered a goal-scorer. I'd like him as a gritty complementary winger with good scoring upside. His cap hit's good, he's only signed for one more year past this year, so it wouldn't be a major investment. It'd be a late first-rounder for a guy who could add a dimension to our forward corps that we're somewhat lacking. At the very least, he'd give us some more scoring depth. Basically, I'd take Perron over a kid who's seven years away from playing big, meaningful minutes for the Wings (i.e. the kid we would, and will, take with our first-round pick).


I know - "We should use that first-round pick on a defenseman, not David frickin' Perron." I just have zero faith that that's going to happen. We're not getting Myers, we're not getting Yandle, and we won't move a first for a rental (Green). We're going to sit on the pick, because "there's no hockey store." That makes me a sad panda.


The one thing I "like" about not getting Perron is his hips are a major issue. He might be one big hit away from being borderline useless.


...But we all know he's going to be huge for the Pens, because of course he will.


I've seen you mention this before. Personally I've never seen that side of David Perron. Sure he's not your typical soft finesse player, he's a good two-way winger who finishes his checks, but plays with an edge? agitates? dirty areas? pain in the ass? I wouldn't use any of those phrases to describe him. I think you have David Perron mistaken for David Backes.


Acquiring Perron doesn't address a need for us. It would be a move for the sake of making a move. And that's why it'd be dumb.

#2560185 Are the Wings a Contender?

Posted by number9 on 02 January 2015 - 09:33 AM

Yes, Boston is a clear contender, while the wings are not.

#2560180 12/31 GDT : Devils 1 at Red Wings 3

Posted by number9 on 02 January 2015 - 12:21 AM

"Helms only good cause of his speed"

"Datsyuks only good cause of his hands"

"Hollands only good cause of his scouts"

"Booze is only good bc it makes me feel good"

Slippery slope

#2560175 WJC 2015 Starting today

Posted by number9 on 01 January 2015 - 09:34 PM

Geeze people need to lighten up.


No. How dare young boys celebrate huge accomplishments at a very young age.

#2560131 12/31 GDT : Devils 1 at Red Wings 3

Posted by number9 on 01 January 2015 - 12:59 PM

Helm is love. Helm is life.