Samuelson is *worth* more than league minimum on a 2-way contract. But there is a opportunity cost lost by carrying that player and cap hit, so even if he does add value to the team, there is also a lose of value just by virtue of having him and not being able to have the alternative. In KFQ's cause he is taking up cap space/roster space/veteran in AHL space that other players are better suited for.
Just let it die man, he's gone. This is a pointless argument. I'm sorry I continued it. Comparing Sammy to Q is dumb too and beside the point.
I know right?! Makes me think Boyle is the guy because they don't want to get caught in a long term contract.
I think that's exactly what's happening. They're signing more stop gaps until the the kids are ready. It's been the plan for the last 3 years. They don't want to pay inflated market value for others team youth when they know we have a crap ton of our own on the way.
EDIT: Plus we're going to be end up against this the cap this year after signings and it will only get worse next year and so on. They don't want to commit to an inflated long term deal that will bar us from signing our prospects in the future
No matter how little money KFQ takes he is still not worth the spot he would take up on the roster. This is a perfect example of the team getting better by subtraction.
He's not coming back. Ok? We'll never know if it's PR spin or not. You have ur Red Wings live in fantasy land opinion, I have a different one, but at the end of the day the loser is gone so lets just be happy about it.
Yes, but the rest of the sentence still doesn't change the overall meaning: That given the chance they would resign him. That shows you just how disconnected the Wings' front office is from the real world.
Yeah and maybe that chance is only if he signs at a significant paycut... but what do I know I live in la la land with Holland and the care bears.
EDIT: But I agree with RZ. This screams PR. "Oh we'd love to re-sign him... but we don't have the money! Sorry Q!" It's the same thing I tell the bums on Woodward
I think a UFA day of Niskanen and Boyle would be a very good day for us. I would be happy with those two. I know the risk in Boyle's ager and Niskanen's one year wonder, but it sure beats sticking with what we have and not giving it a try. I would admire Holland's balls (what?) if he is able to land both. Plus that means Quincey is definitely gone and more than likely Kindl is also!
That's a little too R-rated for me! Joking aside, this whole "Holland has no balls" appeal to emotions, attacking his masculinity thing, is getting old. Plenty of GM's make big gutsy moves, only to have it majorly bite them in the rear. Milbury, Holmgren, Snow etc. He plays a conservative close to the vest style. If he really does lack guts, he makes up for it in brains.
Source or no source, its pretty obvious there isn't a roster spot opening up anytime soon for him. Same with Oullet/Sproul/Backman/Marchenko/Jensen - there is 1, maybe 2 spots on the roster coming up on D in the next few years, so some of them are going to have to be traded. Save them for now, package them up when the right player becomes available on the trade market
I think Pulinkkinen Jensen and a pick would net us a damn a good player. maybe even tack on a Kindl or an Andersson