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#2679639 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by NerveDamage on 27 June 2016 - 12:06 PM

Drew Miller Fan Club Represent! Red Wings sign Miller to a one-year extension

E_Prime Drew Miller Red



#2679766 Drew Miller re-signs... 1 year deal $1.025 million

Posted by Datsyukian-Deke on 27 June 2016 - 10:46 PM

He'll be the 14th forward, in the lineup once in awhile.


Better than having Andersson in every once in awhile.


#2679701 Drew Miller re-signs... 1 year deal $1.025 million

Posted by kipwinger on 27 June 2016 - 03:24 PM

I think Miller is overrated. But I don't mind the signing. If a kid outplays him in camp, waive miller and nearly all of his contract can be stashed in the minors. If not, he's serviceable. No harm no foul on this one for me.


#2679684 Drew Miller re-signs... 1 year deal $1.025 million

Posted by kickazz on 27 June 2016 - 02:58 PM

why overplay Larkin and expose him like that?

So that one day Larkin can grow up to do this.

 

 

It's not overplaying or exposing. Hank also broke the franchise record that year for all time points in a playoff season. 

 

If a player is good enough to do it all, he should do it all. Fedorov, Yzerman, Datsyuk, Zetterberg killed penalties, played on the PP, and played major minutes 5 on 5. Kopitar, Toews, Bergeron do it now. Larkin will be doing it all soon enough. 




#2679644 Drew Miller re-signs... 1 year deal $1.025 million

Posted by NerveDamage on 27 June 2016 - 12:10 PM

E_Prime Drew Miller Stitch

Really happy to see him back, hopefully he'll make a full season appearance.




#2679566 Detroit trades Datsyuk to Arizona

Posted by marcaractac on 26 June 2016 - 12:28 PM

Well Arizona would have been with Svech or whatever his name is or AA too...both positions than wings are better at than at defense. This trades evaluation will depend on 2 things;

1. Can the Wings convince Stamkos to come here? Yes, the cap space is there but others can offer equal money and th ability to play with Eichel. This reminds me too much of the Suter Parise situation. Although I think Toronto would be the wrong choice for him.

2. Chychrun's development. A physical beast being compared to Scott Stevens falls into the Wings lap and they trade him. Did it ever occur to people that that is a reason, why the Coyotes where so eager to get this guy? The kid the Wings drafted is yet again undersized (wouldn't be a problem if this was a heavy team but it isn't), and known for questionable defensive abilities .. So I just hope Hakan saw something in him..because frankly most experts didn't.

A lot of people seem to think Stammer is a given which is far from the truth and if not him, then what? There is no other number 1 center available. Cap space is great if a team can use to get the best possible player otherwise use less. Back in the days I would've said oh great no bring in Stammer...but after getting passed over by Suter, Parise, Niskanen and with an unknown future Stammer to Detroit is far from a given...and I shudder at the thought of signing Eriksson, Vanek or anyone of that "caliber"

 

Did it ever occur to you that there is a reason about 10 other teams after the initial top picks passed on him as well? 




#2678747 Who would you protect?

Posted by marcaractac on 23 June 2016 - 02:20 PM

For the love of god, leave disney.com unprotected. Vegas will not draft him. 




#2678830 NHL Chooses Las Vegas for 17-18 Expansion

Posted by cusimano_brothers on 24 June 2016 - 11:35 AM

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Theo Moudakis, Toronto Star.




#2679623 The Holiday tradition: 2016 Draft thoughts.....

Posted by krsmith17 on 27 June 2016 - 08:12 AM

Here is our newest addition Jordan Sambrook with Kris Draper, 2 days ago after being selected in the 5th round by his favorite team, the Detroit Red Wings...

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And here they are 18 years ago with the Stanley Cup, after the Red Wings won back to back Championships...

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Pretty cool stuff!


#2679548 Detroit trades Datsyuk to Arizona

Posted by kliq on 26 June 2016 - 10:21 AM

Well Arizona would have been with Svech or whatever his name is or AA too...both positions than wings are better at than at defense. This trades evaluation will depend on 2 things;

1. Can the Wings convince Stamkos to come here? Yes, the cap space is there but others can offer equal money and th ability to play with Eichel. This reminds me too much of the Suter Parise situation. Although I think Toronto would be the wrong choice for him.

2. Chychrun's development. A physical beast being compared to Scott Stevens falls into the Wings lap and they trade him. Did it ever occur to people that that is a reason, why the Coyotes where so eager to get this guy? The kid the Wings drafted is yet again undersized (wouldn't be a problem if this was a heavy team but it isn't), and known for questionable defensive abilities .. So I just hope Hakan saw something in him..because frankly most experts didn't.

A lot of people seem to think Stammer is a given which is far from the truth and if not him, then what? There is no other number 1 center available. Cap space is great if a team can use to get the best possible player otherwise use less. Back in the days I would've said oh great no bring in Stammer...but after getting passed over by Suter, Parise, Niskanen and with an unknown future Stammer to Detroit is far from a given...and I shudder at the thought of signing Eriksson, Vanek or anyone of that "caliber"

 

Number 2 is a big assumption by you and many others, people are trying to create the definitive narrative that Detroit passed over Chychrun in order to make this trade, there is no guarantee that Detroit ever wanted him and if they picked at 16 they very well could have picked someone else just like the 15 teams before them. If you are Detroit, and you are not planning on drafting Chychrun due to his injury history, what better move to make then to trade the pick to a team that does want him, add a second, and get rid of Datsyuk's contract.

 

Now, is that what happened? Who knows, only a hand fill of people could answer that question. But my point is you cant say that trade cost us Chychrun as we have no clue who they would have drafted at 16 had they picked.




#2679522 The Holiday tradition: 2016 Draft thoughts.....

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 25 June 2016 - 07:08 PM

I'm embarrassed to admit that when I saw all the draft day photos of the kids going around I had a brief moment of "WTF why are they all wearing Vladdy's number smh."


#2679480 The Holiday tradition: 2016 Draft thoughts.....

Posted by kickazz on 25 June 2016 - 02:27 PM

Holland was already talking about "Cholowski going to St. Cloud St for the next 4 years." Then 1-2 in the AHL, that makes 5-6 years from now. Because of the crap teams that drafted Gauthier Jones, and Chychrun each has a better than 50-50 chance of being in the NHL next year. Same with Rubstov. All 4 will have played at least 1 game by the end of the 2017/18 season. meanwhile Cholowski will be a sophomore in college with 2 years to go.

Even IF we drafted Jones or Chychrun (lets focus on Chychrun), you really think the RED WINGS would have let them join the NHL next year? They forced themselves with Larkin because Datsyuk was leaving and thankfully it worked out because Larkin ended up being really good. Larkin is a once in a blue moon situation. 

 

You're just arguing for the sake of arguing. Don't kid yourself thinking that the number 16th pick would have been in a Red Wings jersey next year lol. We all know he would have been in GR. Most teams would have probably started Svechnikov this year but the Red Wings are likely to keep him down in GR for the next two years. And he's not even a defenseman (who typically take longer to develop)

 

If Cholowski does really well in college hockey he could end up here sooner rather than later. College programs are really good development processes anyways.

 

Like it or not, the Red Wings defense prospect pool just got thicker. It's been their goal all year heading into the draft and they weren't going to change that. They also addressed a secondary need by signing a bigger players. 




#2679497 Detroit trades Datsyuk to Arizona

Posted by xtrememachine1 on 25 June 2016 - 04:01 PM

I keep reading that Buffalo and Toronto are both serious contenders for Stamkos, as are the Islanders.  Maybe I'm a little biased, but... what??  I'm sorry, but how can these franchises be compared to the Wings.  Toronto, despite all the money and fame that goes with playing for the Leafs in Canada, hasn't been a serious contender for decades.  I don't know its the pressure from the Toronto media, a bad string of coaches and GMs or simply bad luck, but why would commit to a team, long term, that hasn't done anything in most of our lifetimes.  Buffalo is another I don't understand.  The best team they've ever had was above average at best.  That's not to say that they won't ever become great, they have a few good young guys that will most likely develop into stars, but if management is offering Stamkos $12 mil per year, what are the odds they'll be able to keep that core together?  Meanwhile, here's the Wings potentially throwing big money his way, they have been the epitome of excellence these past 25 years.  While winning championships, management and scouts have been able to rebuild, using low draft picks, another championship team.  The Wings have a deep history of winning and greatness.  Some of the greatest players to ever play the game have worn the Winged Wheel.  The team, while not impressive at the end of the year, made great strides throughout the majority of the year with younger players like Larkin, Athanasiou, Mantha, DeKeyser and Mrazek.  Holland basically needs to ask Stamkos this question, does he want to be the next Steve Yzerman or does he want to be the next Marcel Dionne.  Again, I'm biased because I'm a (huge) Wings fan, but if its my life and I'm trying to make a decision on where I spend to spend the next 7-8 years of my life, I'm going with the organization that has proven it knows how to win and has made its great players into legendary ones.




#2678163 Datsyuk Announcement to Officially Leave NHL

Posted by marcaractac on 18 June 2016 - 05:34 PM

Pretty sure it was the agent who asked for 5 yrs (if this ever happened)

I think pavel just wanted his signing bonus and wanted to leave pretty much soon after , it's holland's fault for giving him 3 years

People are gonna get so pissed when zetterberg f***s off In a year or 2 .. No way he's playing for a million a season

 

That one would be hard to blame on anyone, because the penalty for that was implemented after the contract was signed. It was a great contract at the time, and the league decided to punish teams who signed players to perfectly legal contracts after the fact. 


In the end, Holland is gonna have to be willing to trade something upwards of a 3rd rounder or a Pulk-level prospect. I can understand saying no if teams are only willing to get more than that, but he has to be willing to give up something to fix this. 

 

Chicago had to give up a good player to dump a contract. The difference is that contract has to be paid. This is a money-free cap hit, and under no circumstances should a team be looking to get that kind of a return out of Holland. 




#2677729 Red Wings re-sign Riley Sheahan: 2-years, $4.15m

Posted by Nyquistfan14 on 15 June 2016 - 08:40 AM

Steal of a deal for sheahan. Hope this guy takes the next step cause he's big, pretty quick and has good hands. When the kid shoots he scores, has an absolute bullet of a shot