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#2536422 Mantha's Injury

Posted by krsmith17 on 17 September 2014 - 11:28 AM

Welcome to LGW, where everything is blown way out of proportion!...

#2536277 Regner: Next year could be Babcock's last

Posted by Dabura on 16 September 2014 - 09:01 AM

This team went from the defacto class of the NHL to still contender, to behind the top pack to playoff contender..that's just not good enough for a proven winner like Babcock.


This is why I'm inclined to think he stays on for at least a couple more years.


Mike Babcock is an alpha male. And he has an ego. (He wants to be the "biggest swinging **** in the room, any room.") And he believes in "Leaving No Doubt" that you are as good at your job as you'd have people believe you are. And, at this stage in his career, he wants a challenge that's going to push him to learn some new things and become an even better coach and hockey mind and person. And, finally, he believes in being a Good Man and doing The Right Thing and facing things head-on, head held high, "No big deal, I got this, because if I don't got this, well, that's just unacceptable. Because I'm Mike Babcock, and I'd like to think I'm a Good Man." Further, he's coached Lidstrom, and also Datsyuk in Datsyuk's prime, winning a Cup with them.


All of this, taken together, says to me that he's going to want to guide the Wings back to contention and win another Cup with them in two or three years. Heading to Toronto or Pittsburgh would be easy, expected. A lesser coach might do that. A lesser man might do that. Power, money, media fellatio - all tempting. But is that why Mike Babcock's in this business? Not saying he doesn't want those things, but I feel like he'd want that golden ticket to Willy Wonka's factory only after he's "Left No Doubt" and helped coach a team that everyone had written off back to the top of the mountain. That way, there's no "Oh, that Mike Babcock. He's a great coach, sure, but you have to admit he's overrated. He gets Anaheim to Game 7 of the SCF, but he can't get the job done. He realizes this was a miracle run for the Ducks that he's not going to be able to replicate and he jumps ship to perennial contender Detroit. Any coach could've won a couple Cups with those Wings teams, and, actually, he only managed to win one. And those Olympic gold medals? Any person with half a brain could've coached those Canada teams to gold. Then, when things got really hard in Detroit and Lidstrom was nowhere to be found, he jumped ship again. This is a guy who, while certainly brilliant, knows how to pick his spots to enhance his aura. I don't rate him much higher than Dan Bylsma, tbh. If Bylsma had coached those Olympic teams, he'd have one Cup and a couple gold medals, same as Babcock. Scotty Bowman was - and is - a living legend. That's a man who'd really earned the right to pick a role of his choosing in an organization of his choosing. Babcock isn't necessarily the best coach in the league right now, let alone a Scotty Bowman. And no one knows that better than Babcock. That's why he left Detroit instead of sticking it out and trying to prove beyond any doubt that, like some crazy SEAL Ninja Jedi Master, you could dump him in the middle of the ocean and when you get home that night he'll be making love with your woman in your bed, because he's just that damn good."

#2536338 Dekeyser signed. 2 yrs $2.187 million AAV

Posted by derblaueClaus on 16 September 2014 - 04:47 PM

Glad to see him signed.

Dito. Regarding his salary : Just keep in mind guys he is still a RFA. Of course he makes less money than a comparable UFA. I don't think he got lowballed.

#2536236 FanSided.com's All-Time Red Wings Team (as a 23-man roster)

Posted by martinezsvsu on 15 September 2014 - 04:43 PM

id put vlady on the ice

#2536176 Nice article on Mantha

Posted by Nev on 14 September 2014 - 03:28 AM

I've said it before, but I really want Mantha on Pavel's wing.  Throughout his junior career, people have complained that he doesn't dominate play - Malik even complained about it after the first prospects game (after he scored 2 goals :lol: ).  Those who watch him closely say this is because his style of play doesn't involve chasing round the O-zone, but rather waiting for the puck to come to him and then taking advantage.  Rather like Brett Hull used to be with Pav - hanging round the slot while the kids mucked around in the corners, the puck would suddenly come free and there was an open Brett Hull firing a shot on net.


Sounds like Mantha has the shot, and the awareness (and the size, and the skating) to be a perfect foil to Pav.

#2535841 2014 Preseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 10 September 2014 - 10:07 AM

Our Marian Hossa is coming soon... Tomas Jurco - Fellow Slovakian, will be the same build (6'2", 210lbs.) in a couple years, and in about 5 years will be putting up 35-40 goal, 80 point seasons... Book it! ;)

#2535961 Dekeyser signed. 2 yrs $2.187 million AAV

Posted by Dabura on 11 September 2014 - 11:49 AM

Just for the record, Quincey's contract should have no bearing on DeKeyser's contract, as Quincey signed as a UFA and DeKeyser is an RFA. The real sticking point is, as Holland says, finding a good comparable for DeKeyser. He's clearly a very important part of the team, but the book on him at the pro level is so very, very thin. It's an unusual situation. Additionally, Smith is heading into the final year of his first contract and we've got four or five kids looking to make the jump this season - so this contract will set an intra-club precedent that will be referenced in future negotiations. So you really want to get this right.


Personally, I think he gets two or three years at around $3M.

#2535805 Dekeyser signed. 2 yrs $2.187 million AAV

Posted by Mckinley25 on 09 September 2014 - 01:29 PM

uh oh plot hole

And that sums up the entire prequel trilogy.

#2535751 2014 Preseason Thread

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 08 September 2014 - 01:14 PM

Please someone post the Semin fight gif where he forgets where he is and starts playing the bongos in some imaginary rasta band.


#2535735 Detroit offers D Raphael Diaz tryout

Posted by Echolalia on 08 September 2014 - 11:44 AM


I'll give you Alfredsson and Weiss but it's not like there was a huge bidding war for them. As far as I remember, for both those players, only us and one other team were even interested. DeKeyser is a hometown boy so no points on that on and I'm too unfamiliar with Nosek to even comment on him. 


All I know is that it feels like for the last 5 years or so, players are always taking another team over us. I mean, do you simply refuse to acknowledge the fact we struck out on every single player we went after this season (and there were a LOT of them)?

I may be remembering incorrectly but I think there were several teams interested in Alfredsson, and several more that were interested in Weiss. 

As for this year, there were what, five players that the Wings targeted that weren't signed, and the Wings are one team in a league of 30.  The odds are NEVER going to be in our favor to sign any particular player, especially when said player is besties with the coach in Washington, and that other player wants to be with his family in Minnesota, etc etc.


side note: Funny that this article was posted on mlive this morning, because it mentions goaltender prospect Jared Coreau picked the Wings over seven other teams back when he was a free agent.  He did this knowing he would be just one goalie in an organization that already includes Howard, Gustavson, Mrazek, McCollum, and Peterson.  But he picked the Wings because of the system's ability to develop players properly.  So there you go. http://www.mlive.com...jared_core.html

#2535719 Detroit offers D Raphael Diaz tryout

Posted by Son of a Wing on 08 September 2014 - 10:21 AM

I think that has more to do with the fact he will have way more opportunities and a lot better chance of making an NHL roster.  


Absolutely.  It's about getting a job.  Plain and simple.


I would think that would be clear as day...but judging by the comments above, I'm obviously mistaken.

#2535718 Detroit offers D Raphael Diaz tryout

Posted by Crashnburnluder on 08 September 2014 - 10:10 AM

So this should end the debate, yes?


Raphael #Diaz accepts the invitation for tryout of the #CalgaryFlames, joins Bob #Hartley and Sven #Baertschi in Camp.

I think that has more to do with the fact he will have way more opportunities and a lot better chance of making an NHL roster.  

#2535689 Dekeyser signed. 2 yrs $2.187 million AAV

Posted by Z Winged Dangler on 07 September 2014 - 04:04 PM

Does anyone think that DeKeyser isn't signed yet because they still don't know the status of Alfredsson?  Signing one, or both of them could dictate the amount and length of the deal.  If Alfredsson signs for 1 year, they could tell DeKeyser to take a 1 year 2 million deal and then sign long term but if Alfredsson retires then they could offer 5 years at 3.5 per or something along those terms.

#2535308 Lines Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 01 September 2014 - 09:55 AM

I agree with you 100% number9, I've been saying this for months. There is no way that Jurco starts the season with the Wings, it's simply not the way the Red Wings do things. Some of you obviously don't agree with this but I truly believe this "over-ripening" method works and will continue to work. I think the Red Wings have unbelievable scouts but I think it's more than that, I think it's more to do with the way they develop their players. No player is ever given a roster spot, every spot, every game and every shift has to be earned.

Jurco will be our first call up which is great and Pulkkinen and Mantha will be our 2nd and 3rd callups if need be, which shows great depth up front.


I however do believe that Jurco is the "next coming", but unlike so many others on here, I don't think he's quite ready yet and I'm completely fine with waiting another half to full season to see him called up again. Some people will probably laugh at this but I think Jurco has more potential than any one of our forward prospects, including Nyquist, Tatar, Pulkkinen and even Mantha. I strongly believe that this kid is the real deal and he will show that in the next couple years. Think that was funny? Well here's something even more humorous to some of you I'm sure, I think he has the potential to have as much of an impact on this organization as Datsyuk and Zetterberg have had over their careers... Call me crazy... ;)

#2535296 potential team names for las vegas!

Posted by 55fan on 31 August 2014 - 11:04 PM

Mu'ad dib? A bit spicy for me. Or maybe the Sarlaac to keep with the Star Wars reference instead of switching to Dune. (As long as there isn't a Seattle Gungans thrown in the mix).

As long as there isn't a Seattle Wookiees.  Everyone letting them win would be too dull, but the alternative would be everyone having their arms pulled out of their sockets.  The Wings have enough injuries as it is- a back out over there, a concussion over here, a face off in the corner...

Ok, so wouldn't the back and sleeves be blank, or is having an 8 on one arm of jersey #77 part of hiding their numbers?