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#2621595 Pittsburgh: America's hockey capital? Lol

Posted by LeftWinger on 25 July 2015 - 09:45 PM

when USA hockey decides that Pitt is the place to move their headquarters and hockey operations, then maybe they can call themselves Americas Hockey Capital...but last I checked only southeast Michigan has that. So sorry Pitt. and Minny while we're at it!

#2621549 Remaing RFAs to be signed - Jurco, Pulkkinen, Aubry

Posted by LeftWinger on 25 July 2015 - 08:19 AM

yay! Now we wait for dominoes to fall! Seriously I hope he gets a chance to setup in front on the net on the PP. Imagine him screening and Pulk's 300 MPH slapper from the blueline! Yes!

#2621511 Jim Devellano on Mantha's play: "Very disappointing"

Posted by darkmanx on 24 July 2015 - 02:00 PM

You call it "spam". I call it a resourse. :lol:

Too late. Hudler already took all the bookings.

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#2621485 Jim Devellano on Mantha's play: "Very disappointing"

Posted by darkmanx on 24 July 2015 - 11:45 AM



Q. You coached Anthony Mantha for a season. What is your assessment?


A. First of all, the expectation level on Anthony was too high, and in part that was his fault. When you have a career like that in juniors, the expectations are too high.

He got hurt two times during the season, and that made it difficult on him — especially at the beginning of the year, when you are establishing good habits. And then right before the playoffs, in June.


I think Anthony has a skill set that will allow him to be a great player.


I think Anthony still needs to learn to work as hard as you have to work, shift in and shift out, moving his feet, in order to utilize that skill set at the American league level and the NHL level. And it would have been impossible for him to realize he had to do that at the junior level, because he didn’t have to.


Until you’ve faced a level where you actually have to, you’re never going to make those adjustments ...


That doesn’t happen overnight …


I agree 100% with Blash. If your expectations were he was going to perform the way he did in juniors then it's your own fault for setting your own expectations that high. He had a broken leg and was injured before the playoffs. Absolutely nothing wrong with him performing at .5 PPG for his first AHL season against actual men. Patience from the Wing fanbase should be expected....

#2621411 Jim Devellano on Mantha's play: "Very disappointing"

Posted by krsmith17 on 24 July 2015 - 08:35 AM

A Larkin like transition? Give me a break. Larkin played a grand total of 6 games in Grand Rapids. Sure, he looked great, but anyone can pull that off in such a small sample size, especially coming off an unbelievable college season, World Juniors, and World Championships. I'm willing to bet that Mantha could have pulled off similar numbers in the 2014 playoffs with the Griffins, if Val d'Or didn't go on such a deep run, winning the President's Cup and going on to play for the Memorial Cup. Confidence is huge in any professional sport, and hockey is no different. Larkin was coming into the Calder Cup playoffs oozing confidence, just as Mantha would have a year prior. Instead, Mantha came into training camp last offseason oozing confidence and looking great, and then fractured his right tibia, and as a result was out for 2 months, missing the Red Wings training camp and the Griffins training camp, and just never got his game on track after that. Some act as such a serious leg injury is no big deal, and he should have immediately regained form. I do think he had a rough season, and he probably should have ended the regular season on a more positive note, or at the very least should have been more of an impact by playoffs. However, I do believe that we will see a completely different player in Grand Rapids this season. I expect he will hover at or around a point per game pace the entire season. Here's to hoping... 

#2621380 Pulkkinen re-signs.... 1 year deal

Posted by FlashyG on 23 July 2015 - 10:44 PM

There is nothing wrong with that, but some people are acting like he's some kind of goal scoring God who will score 40+ a year and anyone who disagrees is a hater.


Negativity and Pulkamania, 2 things that don't go together brother.




NHL...Whatcha gonna do when the Pulkster runs wild on you?

#2621381 Wings lose scout to leafs

Posted by FlashyG on 23 July 2015 - 11:07 PM

I'm not sure what losing a scout has to do with Babcock. His involvement with scouts would be minimal at best.


Shanahan would be the one who poached him, but I think it has more to do with him getting a promotion he was never going to get in Detroit. The Wings have Hakan as their director of European Scouting and I'm sure Shanahan was well aware that Vuori has spent the past few years learning from him. Who better to choose to become your own director of European Scouting?

#2621333 Jim Devellano on Mantha's play: "Very disappointing"

Posted by rick zombo on 23 July 2015 - 01:28 PM

I honestly think the Mantha backlash was completely based on the fact that Wings fans haven't had too many first round, blue chip prospects to boner over in 20 years. We were starving for one. So when Mantha came along, the hype got out of hand.

#2621325 Jim Devellano on Mantha's play: "Very disappointing"

Posted by rick zombo on 23 July 2015 - 12:47 PM

Outstanding article on Mantha from WiiM



#2621338 Wings lose scout to leafs

Posted by rick zombo on 23 July 2015 - 02:20 PM

Yeah I saw this. Babs is really starting to piss me off by taking some of our coaching and staff members.. 


Goes to show how popular Babs really was among the organization. 


Yeah well. I'd rather lose a scout and a coach or two than watch Glendenning and Miller play 18 minutes a night again this season.

#2621263 Pulkkinen re-signs.... 1 year deal

Posted by Helmethead on 23 July 2015 - 09:30 AM

If we got Buff then we'd have the stuff.

#2621259 Pulkkinen re-signs.... 1 year deal

Posted by krsmith17 on 23 July 2015 - 06:07 AM

Exactly Dabura! People keep complaining about the fact that Pulkkinen is "one-dimensional" (which he isn't nearly as people claim...), but I'd love to have a guy that concentrates mainly on the offensive side of the puck. Like you said, we have more than enough two-way, defensively sound forwards, give me a guy that can put the puck in the net. Pulkkinen IS that guy. I truly believe that he couldn't have been used much worse last season. The fact that he was playing the middle of the ice the majority of his power-play minutes is mind-boggling to me. Blashill used him on the left side of the ice, whether it be the left point, left halfboards or left faceoff dot, he was always there waiting to get off that nasty one-timer. Assuming he will continue to be used in that same fashion, he will be a weapon on the power-play. Give him 3rd line-minutes with the likes of Sheahan and Jurco and he will figure out how to produce 5 on 5 as well. He has produced at every level of hockey he's ever played. The fact that people are doubting he can get it done in the NHL with a measly 34 games under his belt, producing at a similar clip as Tatar and Nyquist when they entered the league, after tearing up the AHL, is a little disturbing to me... Like I've said before, I'm rooting for the kid, I think he has the potential to be a very good Red Wing. Time will tell...

#2621257 Pulkkinen re-signs.... 1 year deal

Posted by amato on 23 July 2015 - 06:03 AM

I wouldn't trade pulk for buff (and you can count me as cautiously optimistic re: pulk) simply because we likely wouldn't be able to re-$ign him with the amount of raises players will command in the next couple off seasons.. granted Quincey comes off the books next year and of course Richards, so it's certainly possible but we'd have to make sure any player signed long term is a great fit. Getting rid of pulk isn't worth that kind of a one season or less gamble, imo. You just don't deal his kind of potential for a possible rental.

#2621256 Pulkkinen re-signs.... 1 year deal

Posted by kliq on 23 July 2015 - 03:06 AM

I don't want to trade Pulkkinen for a rental unless we have a chance of resigning him. Its one thing if come the trade deadline we are a D-man away from being legit cup contenders, but if we're not I don't want to do this trade. Not saying Pulkkinen is going to be a star, but he has an upside and we own his rights for quite a few more years.

#2621252 Pulkkinen re-signs.... 1 year deal

Posted by Dabura on 22 July 2015 - 11:50 PM

We're not going to get a Buffy-level player for him, despite what some people think.


I'm assuming "Buffy" = Byfuglien...?


If the Jets do move Byfuglien, it probably won't be for all that much, as he's on an expiring contract and he's going to Get Paid next summer (so, you can trade for him, but don't expect to have a shot at keeping him past 2016 if you're not willing to give him big money and long term. And even if you do offer him big money and long term, there'll be other teams offering just as much as you're offering, if not more.)


This piece, written by a knowledgeable Jets fan for a knowledgeable Jets community [Note: I'm not implying that you folks aren't knowledgeable], suggests a realistic return might be Pulkkinen and a defenseman...


Detroit seems to be an ideal destination for all parties. Detroit is insanely deep with left handed defensemen and could use another righty. This trade makes a ton of sense for both the Jets and Red Wings. For a trade of Dustin Byfuglien to Detroit to go through, the Red Wings would probably offer Teemu Pulkkinen and maybe a defensive prospect like Xavier Ouellet.


Believe it or not, I wouldn't necessarily pull that trigger. While I really, really, really, really, really want to see us swing a trade for Byfuglien, and while it's fashionable to say Pulkkinen isn't going to be an impact player at the NHL level because "zomg he's one-dimensional," moving two of our better young assets for only one guaranteed year (or less) of Byfuglien would not be a total no-brainer.


And, about Pulkkinen: he shoots, he scores. He puts up points. I like points. I like scoring. Every team needs producers, us more than most (especially at even strength, where we're absolutely toothless). Five goals in 30 games projects to about 12 goals over a full season. If we assume he plays good minutes with quality linemates for a full season and that he takes even just the slightest step forward in his development, he's probably good for 15-20 next season (2015-16). 15-20 goals for $735,000 is the kind of bang-for-your-buck you need if you're going to build a serious contender with staying power. If he becomes the power play hammer of death we all know he can be, 25 goals isn't out of the question.


Again, the kid scores. He lives to score. He loves to score. He's gifted. It's not like "Yeah, well, he's not gonna have time to get his shot off, and NHL goalies are the best, so he's not gonna score. He's just so one-dimensional." I love one-dimensional. I want one-dimensional. We have more than enough 200-foot players who can play all four positions at the same time and backcheck in their sleep. Give me a specialist who specializes in something as amusingly trivial as putting the puck in the other team's net. ("When would would we ever have a need for that?") I'm not saying all this as an argument against pursuing Byfuglien. (Byfuglien puts up points. I like points. I especially like defensemen who put up points. I super-especially like defensemen who play against the opposition's best players every night and still manage to put up points.) I'm saying we shouldn't knock Pulkkinen when he's obliterated the AHL and played in fewer than 40 NHL games.