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#2357262 No need to panic

Posted by chrisdetroit on 18 February 2013 - 12:50 PM

Ah yes, the classic "It's not Holland's fault!" excuse.  Like there were no better d-men to be had via trade or free agency that were better than Quincey or Colieakmsxkndnhdsvo.  Poor old Holland.  I mean Lids and Stuart leaving were a complete surprise to him.  As you said though, at least Brunner has worked out so far, which again is because of a scout and not through Holland's trade prowess or draft genius.  Holland's real good at finding pieces that nobody really wants and hoping they turn it around in Detroit, but he hasn't competed against other teams for a top talent and won in a long time, and it's become painfully obvious.



If he went chasing the flavor of the month every year like San Jose does you'd be happy.  BUT look at San Jose, they have depleated their prospects to the point where their prosepect are LAST in the NHL.  But hey, they always seem to land the hot commodity.  A hell of a price to pay.  Mortgage the future for the flavor of the month..  LOL


We could probably get a top D man for Nyquist, Tartar, Smith, etc.


No thanks.

#2356354 Healthy starters the problem, Not young replacements

Posted by amato on 16 February 2013 - 11:55 AM

This is really just a poorly worded response that doesn't seem to have a point or go anywhere.....
Thank you Dan Cleary for all of those clutch playoff goals you have provided in the past, but injuries have caught up with you. You can't skate and you never get an opportunity to shoot.
Here is a positive: Cleary/Bert/White all have expiring contracts

I'm pretty sure Bert's still signed thru next season.

#2356370 2/15 GDT : Anaheim Ducks 5 at Red Wings 2

Posted by Guest on 16 February 2013 - 12:47 PM

Z and Brunner were fine, Cleary was just there. They missed an assignment on the first goal as a line, but the other two weren't on the forwards. That was Ian White's doing for both.


Yes, he deliberately exploded his stick. Right?

white + filppula for yandle and torres


Haha. If you want to see routinely blown coverage in the defensive zone, watch Yandle.

#2355700 Bertuzzi's continuing back problems

Posted by Hockeymom1960 on 15 February 2013 - 07:04 AM

Sheeesh the body isn't even cold yet for some of you.


Praying for you Bert! 

#2355145 Dan Cleary appreciation thread

Posted by Guest on 13 February 2013 - 09:41 PM

He's been beyond awful.


I don't often doubt Babcock, but I have no idea why Cleary continues to get time on special teams or on scoring lines. Every other player on the team is vastly more effective than he is. He cannot skate or hold on to the puck.

#2354491 Biggest mistake Red Wings have done

Posted by shoobiedoobin on 12 February 2013 - 07:12 PM



could be not giving up osgood for roy after the 11-1 game.  probably directly cost them multiple cups.


recenlty, keeping franzen over hossa looks really, really bad.

I still think there was much more to the Colorado/Montreal trade than anyone involved let on. I don't think we would've gotten him, he'd made up his mind that he was going to Colorado before we shelled him.


The rumor anyway was Ozzie and Fedorov. Sorry, no thanks.

#2353385 2/9 GDT : Oilers 1 at Red Wings 2

Posted by Guest on 09 February 2013 - 05:03 PM

As soon as you come up with a reason why Cleary is on the team.  


I can tell you why he's still on the team. I can't tell you why he's still being played.

#2353446 2/9 GDT : Oilers 1 at Red Wings 2

Posted by mackel on 09 February 2013 - 08:02 PM

Did anyone else watch the game on CBC? Canadian hockey coverage is the worst! They're so pro Canada with their comments that it really makes them look stupid. All game long they talked about Lidstrom retiring, how bad the Wings PP and PK was (after only 10 games), fast the Oilers are, and have the 4th best PP in the League. They also made a comment about how the Wings are retooling and the Oilers are ready to win now. :glare:  Last I checked, the Oilers are still in the bottom 1/3 of the Western Conference. What's taking their rebuild so long?
Canadian stations (CBC and TSN) seem to have an agenda before the game starts, they don't call the game as it happens. As a Canadian, it's embarrassing.
To reply to all their stupid comments, the Oilers PP sucked today! They played sloppy all game, and had way to many turn overs.
The best announcers are ones you don't really notice. They let the game control the broadcast. Mickey, Ken, and Murph have to be amoung the best in the League, they just seem to enjoy themselves, and the game of Hockey. You won't find a better broadcast team out there then them.

As for the Wings, I think the first game was a wash, that wasn't this team. Take away Game 1 and we're 6-3-1.

I think it's a matter of perspective. You don't notice Ken and the gang because you agree with their take on the game... They are broadcasting the game to the red wings home market. The CBC broadcast is geared toward their home market Edmonton and Canada more generally.

As a wings fan I could see no more bias toward the Oilers on CBC than toward the Wings on an FSD broadcast.

Use the Chicago crew as the bar. They are disgustingly "homer" in their call of the game. The CBC broadcast today was not even on the same planet as that bar.

#2352909 Franzen spear on Perron

Posted by hillbillywingsfan on 08 February 2013 - 11:25 AM

Wings' Johan Franzen will face no disciplinary action for spearing Blues' David Perron last night, as NHL said no hearing scheduled.


Which is rightfully so. Perron boarded mule...mule speared perron...mule was kicked out of the game. And thats that.

#2351912 Toughness

Posted by 55fan on 06 February 2013 - 07:19 AM

Yeah, and my great-granny squatted in the barn, dropped out a kid, and went right back to milkin' Old Bossie.  Sure, the infant and maternal mortality rates were triple what they are now, but hey- those old mothers were tough!


It makes a great story when a guy loses all but his canine teeth and keeps playing, or when a guy gets speared in the yambags, gets sewn up, and comes back to get a hat trick with 37 stitches in the family jewels, but times have changed, and so has modern medicine.


Blood was once something you played through, now it's a biohazard.


Concussions were once something you just shook off and played through, and then told stories about later.  Now we know the long-term effects.


Remember when Z had all those back troubles and people were complaining about his lost ice time?  I'd bet you dollars to donuts that if he'd played through it, he'd be a shell of the player he is today, if he was still playing at all.  I'm sure the lovely Emma is glad he took care of his back.


Medicine has come a long way.  As much as I love a good story and testament to the manliness of hockey players, I'd rather see a guy sit now, and go on to play longer and live better afterwards.


If we need good stories, we'll always have Gilchrist.  Ouch, man.  Just... Ouch.

#2351348 2/5 GDT : Flames 4 at Red Wings 1

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 05 February 2013 - 01:57 PM

I have said this for years and have said it over and over....he has been given ample opportunity to crack the top 6 D...he can't even do it with all these injuries, he will never do it.  I know I am not the only one to dislike him, but I have said since day one he was a waste of a draft pick. Could have had made a much  better draft pick. Even though a draft is a gamble, but nobody understood why Kindl was taken so high, except that they figured Holland was being Holland and found a diamond...Sorry, but Holland screwed the pooch with Kindl....bye bye Jakub, wish I could say it was nice to know you!

Honestly I didn't know much about Kindl when he was drafted, but I definitely got excited for a puck moving defenseman who is 6'3" 216 lbs and drafted that highly.  I've been pretty hard on him because he shows flashes of getting it together and then fades to the background once again.


As a 26 yr old with as many chances as he's had, I don't hold out much hope.  

#2350150 2/1 GDT : Blues 3 at Red Wings 5 (Z with Hat Trick)

Posted by freshy on 01 February 2013 - 09:58 PM

I have a feeling the next 4 minutes is going to be sphincter puckering time.

#2349366 A Few D-Men That Could Become Available This Year

Posted by Jedi on 31 January 2013 - 12:33 PM

The issue is we have 7 guys on 1 way contracts and Smith who is 2 way but isn't going back to the minors because a.  he shouldn't and b. won't clear waivers.  We are going to either lose a guy on waivers or Kenny has to make a trade.

Whether a contract is "one way" or "two way" has no bearing on a player's waiver eligibility.  That only determines the salary that player is paid, depending on where he's playing.  Best explanation of that (and the entire Waiver Eligibility process) I've found for that is here... 

Do 1-Way and 2-Way contracts effect Waivers?
Simply put, no they do not. This is a common misconception. 1-way and 2-way contracts have nothing to do with waivers. They are for salary purposes between the AHL and NHL. The confusion is understandable, most players with 2-way contracts are waiver exempt because of the reasons above. Most players on 1-way contracts aren’t waiver exempt. Just keep in mind that the chart above is the only thing that determines a players waiver status.

For what it's worth, Lashoff is on a two way contract too, but it doesn't matter since his salary is only $523k this year (he'd make $50k if he's playing in GR).  I believe that Lash is waiver exempt, too.

#2348015 Things that are better than the Wings special teams.

Posted by HelmFan on 27 January 2013 - 11:45 PM

Atiwapaskat housing.

#2347975 1/27 Red Wings 1 @ Chicago Blackhawks 2 (OT)

Posted by Nightfall on 27 January 2013 - 10:28 PM

I think I know what the correct list of things are after a Wings win and loss.


Wings lose

1.  Blame Franzen

2.  Blame Howard

3.  Blame Emmerton

4.  Blame Ericsson

5.  Blame the Power Play

6.  Blame the coaching staff and management

7.  Whine on the forums until the next game.


Wings win

1.  No one gets credit

2.  Blame all players except Dats and Z for sucking. 

3.  Whine on the forums until the next game.


Course, I should know how this goes after being on these forums for so long.