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#2427297 is anyone happy right now?

Posted by puckbags on 05 July 2013 - 02:55 PM

No this isn't an overreaction thread. I'm just wondering what is everyone's thoughts right now?

Let's look at our team. We lose fil and Brunner which are negatives. Lose cleary and Sammy which are positive.

Gain Alfie and Weiss. So as of right now we are a worse team from last year.



Then to top it all off we could of had a much better player in fil for 5m or Vinny for 4.5m but we got stuck with Weiss for just over 4m?


Then the best part is bobby Ryan got traded for almost nothing. Nyquist, a 1st, and what any other younger prospect not named mantha, Sproul, oullet, mrazek and it would've been a done deal. Youre talking a no brainer of a deal. Ana gave him him for almost nothing they could be got so much more.


So I ask unless there's a more trades or signings(cleary makes us worse) what are everyone's reactions and thoughts right now.


Mine is I'm quite mad. Holland continues to let us down. And THE ONLY wah I see us making the playoffs is we need DAT z kronwall ericsson and Howard to play like like they did this year. As well as guys like Nyquist Anderson Tatar smith and dekeyser need to play major roles as well.

 

Losing Fil is a negative? He's more than had his chance to prove himself as a legit center in this league and he's coming off arguably his worst year ever.  It was painful...he floated around the ice, afraid to shoot, afraid to go to the net..fresh meat down the middle. I like Brunner, it's hard to give up goal scoring but it was brutally obvious that this guy was a 1 dimensional player..he's terrible defensively and management knows they have guys with similar goal scoring ability in the system ( Gus and Tatar)  Alfie is a low risk high reward for 1 season..nothing wrong with that move at all.  We are super deep up front and have lots of pieces to trade.




#2427019 Wings sign Stephen Weiss, 5-years, $24.5m

Posted by puckbags on 05 July 2013 - 01:27 PM

 

good old days?? LOL  we didnt get 40 yr old washed up players and overrated injury prone guys , back in the day we got the best

injury prone guys? Weiss has averaged 74 games a year in his career and that number is only at 74 because he was injured last year. Make some sense before you post this garbage.




#2426972 Wings sign Stephen Weiss, 5-years, $24.5m

Posted by puckbags on 05 July 2013 - 01:20 PM

I just posted this in the locked thread..was Weiss the captain in Florida? Did we just swipe 2 captains from 2 new divisional rivals?




#2426733 Clowe to New Jersey: Five Years, $4.85m AAV

Posted by puckbags on 05 July 2013 - 12:12 PM

4 concussions in 13 months and 3 goals last year.this is baffling




#2426675 Brunner Contract Talks

Posted by puckbags on 05 July 2013 - 11:54 AM

Ha

 

Weiss isn't as good as Flip, and he's older.  This is turning into a train wreck.

 

Haha really? they are less that a year apart in age and Weiss has scored more points per game in his career than Fil. Time for a change at center on the 2nd line and I'm all for some new blood there.  Fli was so passive this year it was hard to watch.




#2425929 Trade/Buyout thread

Posted by puckbags on 04 July 2013 - 02:36 PM

Its also Holland's fault we have made the playoffs 22 straight seasons. What a loser




#2425343 How much is too much?

Posted by puckbags on 03 July 2013 - 10:35 AM

The rumored 3 years at 3 per for Dan Cleary is tooooooooooo much !!!


#2424262 Canucks trade Schneider to Devils for 9th overall pick

Posted by puckbags on 30 June 2013 - 09:08 PM

They traded the 1a goalie to a team that already has one of the greatest goalies of all time, Schneider has to ride the pine for a year to watch Brodeur play out his final year and now the Nucks are stuck with a goalie who clearly doesnt have much interest in playing for them......nice move Gillis..this just reeks or terrible and it looks so good on them.


#2423319 Trade/Buyout thread

Posted by puckbags on 29 June 2013 - 11:15 AM

Hillarious that the Canucks are now fielding offers for Schneider..what a total mess that is..they know they can't get anything for Luongo at this point and no one will take that albatross of a contract so it's panic time.




#2423180 Jakub Kindl signs 4 year extension, $9.6m total, $2.4m/yr

Posted by puckbags on 28 June 2013 - 06:58 PM

2.4 cap hit, I bet he out plays that contract for sure. I like the deal




#2423103 Blackhawks Letter of Appreciation

Posted by puckbags on 28 June 2013 - 12:54 PM

In hockey you thank each other for a great series at the end of the last game with the handshake..thats it..thats all




#2422553 Should we trade our 2013 1st round pick?

Posted by puckbags on 26 June 2013 - 09:02 PM

Could be a way for us to unload a forward also..our pick + a roster player or two to move up.




#2420685 Grand Rapids Griffins Win Calder Cup! 5-2 win in game 6

Posted by puckbags on 18 June 2013 - 08:36 PM

Congrats to the Griffins...future looks bright




#2420507 Datsyuk agrees to 3-year extension, $22.5m total, $7.5m/year

Posted by puckbags on 18 June 2013 - 10:00 AM

The score in Canada just posted it on their site too

 

http://www.thescore....ee-on-extension




#2419274 2013 Offseason Thread

Posted by puckbags on 11 June 2013 - 04:45 PM

 

Yes, on shorter term contracts though...if Franzen were on a 5 year deal, he'd be topping $8M a season for his (lack of) production.  The only reason he is at $3.9M is because of the 11 years.  If all those other guys were also on 11 year contract, they'd be in the $3M's as well.  There is nothing valuable about Franzen's contract, because we are stuck with him for the next 7 years....

 

 

Lets look at James Neal, currently making $5M per season.  Similar numbers, he's up and down has actually scored 40 before, but he averages in the mid 20's.  He signed a 6yr $30M contract.  Franzen singed an 11 year $43M contract...who has the better value, Franzen cost us $13M more...

 

Lets see what Franzen would be making if he had signed a 6yr deal....oh geez, $7.1M per season.  Now what about Neal's $30M on an 11 year contract? $2.7M per.  Again, there is no value to Franzen contract. Period. I'd rather have Neal at $30M tens times over Franzen at $43M...

 

So who is more valuable? Franzen's 28 goals at $7.1M on a 6 year deal or Neal's $5M on a 6 year deal?  Franzen's $3.9M on an 11 year deal or Neal's $2.7M on an 11 year deal?  Franzen's $43M or Neal's $30M?  All three ways, Franzen is a waste of money...

 

There is absolutely nothing wrong with Franzen's cap hit for the amount of goals he scores..fans will always want more..the issue for the Mule is that after he went nuts in the playoffs 2 years in a row our expectations of him went through the roof.  He's a 25-30 goal scorer and gets paid as such..he's never been a 40 goal scorer and never will be.  The formula you used comparing him to other guys is so strange....although contracts are paid out over a certain amount years the true essence of a good contract is to get the most out of a guy on a per year basis which is why all these long contracts that were created with the loophole take huge dives in the last few years.  Sign a guy for 10, hope he retires after 6 and if he doesn't hope he isn't in a wheel chair so you can get some value out of him.



Youre missing the point too. If goals are the only thing you do for the team, then 28 goals a year with 20 mins of ice time with world class centers is not all that great. If you hit, fight, scrap, and are a +25, then 28 goals is fantastic. Franzen needs to play like Shanahan. Not like Franzen.

Why would he ever play like Shanny? He was never compared to Shanny, he has never fought, never was a big hitter..I agree he should use his size more but you're making it sound like the guy should start doing things he was never supposed to or asked to do..makes 0 sense.  I want a Shanny type player too but it's not going to be Franzen and good luck finding one.