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In Topic: Ryspayev Should Be Banned.. Disgusting.

10 August 2016 - 01:52 PM


Ott has never been a good fighter.  He'd have trouble with Abdelkader.  

And he did, with a lot of hugging...


Ott was never a tough guy. He routinely got his ass kicked by guys who could actually fight. He was an antagonist and, in his prime, a good checker. Not sure what he brings to Detroit at this stage of his career. 

In Topic: Red Wings All-Bust Roster

26 July 2016 - 07:58 AM

Let's not forget Mike Babcock fanboy... Mike Commodore! Though nothing was really expected of him, so it's hard to call him a bust. 

In Topic: Steve Ott signs 1 year, $800k deal with Detroit

02 July 2016 - 07:46 AM

I agree that a tough guy doesn't help us win. What we need are tough hockey players. Like an Abdelkader with a bit more talent. We need guys who can hit and clear space more than guys who will fight.

This is true. Fighting is a bonus, but the hockey fight is a dying art form soon to be extinct, unfortunately. Now you need guys who can pound and be disruptive, but who have some semblance of hockey skill, which Probert, Kocur and McCarty all did have. 
The playoffs are a battle of attrition, so having guys like Drake, like Maltby, like Abdelkader can only help. Lucic without a doubt would have helped. I think Tyler Bertuzzi, while not as physical or as skilled as his uncle (Vancouver days), could also be that guy for us. Givani Smith down the road. Matt Martin on the 4th line would have been fun to watch; the guys hits anything moves.  
As I said, Ott does very little for me and is not really an effective player anymore. Dallas Steve Ott, while an absolute a-hole, might have fit the bill better. 
All in all, none of yesterday's signings made us particularly harder to play against. But what's done is done.  
Though, if you want the headache, there is this guy... http://www.diebytheb...ng-evander-kane But I think I know where most fans stand on that. 
Me? f*** it, I'd take him, but only if he promised to be a good boy.   

In Topic: Steve Ott signs 1 year, $800k deal with Detroit

02 July 2016 - 05:58 AM

His grit means nothing, tbh. We're the only hockey franchise that can win 4 titles in a decade being last in the league in fights and PM's and still think tough guys have any place in the NHL. 

^This guy??? Did a tough guy pee in his kool-aid? 


But if I'm being honest, I don't like this signing, mostly because I don't like Ott - In fact, I hate him. He's one notch above Matt Cooke (who's one notch above shocky2002 now) in my book. This guy went out and tried to injure, not hit hard or make a hockey play, but injure players every time Detroit played Dallas. On top of that, he can't fight to save his life and can't produce points anymore. His effective years are behind him. We needed to get tougher, add a little grit, but I don't think this was the way to go. Bertuzzi or Callahan, or even this Dylan Sadowy kid, would probably be more effective than Ott imo. But I'm not so sure Ott's not going to be buried in GR and this isn't Ken Holland saying, "see, I wasn't lying, we got tougher". But if he plays and can be a disruptive force and actually hit opposing teams defensemen (there's a novel concept!), I can't complain. 


But getting back to shocky2002, is this guy for real? Is he trolling or what? Did he honestly say McCarty was a worthless hockey player? "Like every other tough guy"? This guys opinion is less than nothing to me from now on. 









In Topic: Thomas Vanek signs 1 year, $2.6m deal with Detroit

01 July 2016 - 03:26 PM

Didn't want him but of course the Wings sign him at the plus side it's only for 1 year so if it doesn't work out they can just let him walk.

so much for becoming heavier and tougher to play against lol

So the talk of getting "tougher" and "harder to play against" was just to get me through the week?

Meh, not super excited but not unhappy about it, and I did tease about pre-ordering your Vanek jerseys a couple of days ago, so there. Can I read Holland or what.

Honestly. 2,6 millions one year is okay...but Vanek is done unless he agrees to finally compete. He was terrible recently. Slow turnover machine. I think this is mainly to help our powerplay as Vanek still has his excellent hands.

And all are legitimate and fair comments. To say that Vanek is slow and has a poor work ethic is not as much criticism as truthful statements. And what about Holland's rhetoric about getting bigger and harder to play against? That certainly was not addressed, thus far.   
And I did not complain, I just said "meh", but added that I was not unhappy, which is about the best you're going to get out of me over this deal. But he's a righty, and lord knows we need more of those around here. And 1 year, not 6. But I suspect someone is going to be traded, maybe Nyquist. We'll wait and see.