Flipper51

Well if we make the playoffs,  and everyone is healthy, I would go with this line up....
 
Filppula - Zetterberg - Brunner
 
Franzen - Datsyuk - Nyquist
 
Abdelkader - Helm - Tatar
 
Miller - Andersson - Tootoo
 
Scratched
Bertuzzi
Emmerton
Eaves
Samuelsson
Cleary
 
Kronwall - Ericsson
 
Kindl - DeKeyser
 
Smith - Lashoff
 
Scratched
White
Quincey
Colaiacovo
 
Howard 
Gustavsson

My ideal lines would be this, but I'd switch z and pavs. Would put Bert in for miller. Also put Quincey in for lashoff.

If we're not trying to do anything in the playoffs, what good is this season other than giving our kids some experience for next season?

Filppula-Zetterberg-Brunner
Franzen-Datsyuk-Tatar
Nyquist-Andersson/Helm-Miller
Abdelkader-Emmerton-Tootoo

Kronwall-Ericsson
Quincey/Cola-Smith
Dekeyser-Kindl/Lashoff

Make it so Kenny/Babcock.

If we had Nyq and Tatar playing quality minutes all year we probably wouldn't even need a top 6 forward

Tats, nyquist, and brunner should be in the top 6. I don't care if there not big. I will take skill over a plug with size

The better all be in the lineup the rest of the way. Holland you don't wanna give up picks, or prospects for top 6 talent? Well you better start getting young guys quality minutes.

I still don't understand why we didn't unload white

Everyone gets better but us. How could he not go for gabby? Awful Kenny you should be fired. Most mad I've ever been with him

Gabby for brassard, Moore, and Dorsett. Kenny you couldn't put in an offer! F*** he's terrible

Gabby could be going to Columbus.

If this isn't for a high price I'm gonna be pissed

i feel everyones pain but guys come on did you honestly think he was going to do anything this is the same team he likes them not going to do anything different his convienced that bert helm and sammy are going help this team pole jump into the PO

Ya meanwhile none of them can stay healthy. Sammy is hurt either before his first game coming back, or 10 minutes in. Worst signing ever!!!

Well since we're not gonna do anything Kenny better play the right f****** players in the right spot. Sick and tired of see dusters in the top6. Get Tatar, nyquist, and Danny d in the lineup now!

If I were Datsyuk, I'd walk into Kenny's office and demand a trade off this sinking ship.  But, Pav would never do that.  He'll just deke Kenny out and go back to work.  He'll carry this whole organization by himself, if he has to.  That's just so unfair to him.

Pav is my favorite player of all time. He deserves to have someone to play with. The guy is still so dominant. Get him someone really good to play with and who knows maybe he re-signs for a couple more years.

I'd rather lose a first and a good prospect for a star player plus two more years of pav playing with that star player

Here's the thing I don't understand about Kenny's philosophy.  He doesn't want to do something and get worse, but he also doesn't realize that by doing nothing and getting older, you are getting worse.  Each year he doesn't do anything, our already aging core gets a year older.  And there's nothing on the horizon to suggest that we've got a new core in the making.  Even our highly touted prospects aren't the next great wave or Red Wings.  The next wave would have been guys Abby, Helm, Kindl, and Ericsson's age, and if that's our new core then watch out. 
 
If he continues to do nothing and hopes that internal growth will fix these problems, he's likely to lose Datsyuk and Flip, while Z, Kronwall, and Franzen decline and there will be NOBODY there to pick up that slack. 
 
Unless, of course, you think Nyquist and Tatar are the answer.  I don't. 

I totally agree. And it's not like he doesn't trade and does all his business on July 1st. He does nothing. This has been the exact same team for 4 years, except we are older and have lost 3 top 4 d-men, one being a HOF'er, other being  great d-man, and the other being a rock. What have we brought in? Nothing!

I'm so sick of holland doing nothing. He's wasting the last few years of a legendary career in pavel datsyuk, just like he did with lids.

Worst part is that he refuses to play young players that are ready to produce

 
I agree with some people here.  This isn't a bad thing.  No one is trading their elite players away, and as Holland said, we are in need of top guys.  Jagr and Bouwmeester are not top guys.

Yep. So go get eriikson/ gaborik/ vanek/ pomonville

 
I ain't giving up 2 prospects and a high-level pick for a 42 yr old... no chance!
 
Especially since we are not that close to a cup run... smart move
 
I prefer Gaborik, etc

It's not so much the fact that he didn't get him. It's the fact that there's a really big chance holland will make 0 moves. All year other teams have no problem doing it. We have a deep prospect pool

Mike Heika ‏@MikeHeika33s
Jaromir Jagr to Boston. I'm hearing two prospects and a draft pick.

There goes another one. Kenny's probably not even near a phone.