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#2378757 Official NHL Trade Deadline thread

Posted by Nyquistfan14 on 02 April 2013 - 03:01 PM

Here's the thing I don't understand about Kenny's philosophy.  He doesn't want to do something and get worse, but he also doesn't realize that by doing nothing and getting older, you are getting worse.  Each year he doesn't do anything, our already aging core gets a year older.  And there's nothing on the horizon to suggest that we've got a new core in the making.  Even our highly touted prospects aren't the next great wave or Red Wings.  The next wave would have been guys Abby, Helm, Kindl, and Ericsson's age, and if that's our new core then watch out. 
If he continues to do nothing and hopes that internal growth will fix these problems, he's likely to lose Datsyuk and Flip, while Z, Kronwall, and Franzen decline and there will be NOBODY there to pick up that slack. 
Unless, of course, you think Nyquist and Tatar are the answer.  I don't. 

I totally agree. And it's not like he doesn't trade and does all his business on July 1st. He does nothing. This has been the exact same team for 4 years, except we are older and have lost 3 top 4 d-men, one being a HOF'er, other being great d-man, and the other being a rock. What have we brought in? Nothing!

I'm so sick of holland doing nothing. He's wasting the last few years of a legendary career in pavel datsyuk, just like he did with lids.

Worst part is that he refuses to play young players that are ready to produce

#2378731 Holland: "We don't need depth...Need a top guy"

Posted by Nyquistfan14 on 02 April 2013 - 02:22 PM

I agree with some people here.  This isn't a bad thing.  No one is trading their elite players away, and as Holland said, we are in need of top guys.  Jagr and Bouwmeester are not top guys.

Yep. So go get eriikson/ gaborik/ vanek/ pomonville

#2378631 Stars trade Jaromir Jagr to Bruins

Posted by Nyquistfan14 on 02 April 2013 - 12:13 PM

I ain't giving up 2 prospects and a high-level pick for a 42 yr old... no chance!
Especially since we are not that close to a cup run... smart move
I prefer Gaborik, etc

It's not so much the fact that he didn't get him. It's the fact that there's a really big chance holland will make 0 moves. All year other teams have no problem doing it. We have a deep prospect pool

#2378625 Stars trade Jaromir Jagr to Bruins

Posted by Nyquistfan14 on 02 April 2013 - 12:06 PM

Mike Heika ‏@MikeHeika33s
Jaromir Jagr to Boston. I'm hearing two prospects and a draft pick.

There goes another one. Kenny's probably not even near a phone.

#2378601 Stars trade Jaromir Jagr to Bruins

Posted by Nyquistfan14 on 02 April 2013 - 11:41 AM

It's always "the asking price is too high", and why aree the goddamn Bruins so frigging special?!  The Wings are so close to having something special and Kenny has to see this...

It's because Kenny doesn't realize you have to give up something to get something. That's what July 1st is for Kenny. Oh wait you never do anything there either cause you want everyone to play for peanuts

#2378431 4/1 GDT : Avalanche 2 at Red Wings 3

Posted by Nyquistfan14 on 01 April 2013 - 11:18 PM

I guess I have no problems with that except isn't Bert gonna be back soon?
Also we don't really know what Helm's status is either? Meaning this season?
Don't forget Sammy!!!
I tend to usually leave my line combos to the coach.
Even if I dislike what Babs lines are.

What your saying right here is the problem. Weather it's babs or holland or a combination of both but we value players like Sammy, cleary, miller, eaves, etc over guys like Tatar and nyquist. You can't honestly tell me those guys are better. If Tatar and nyquist wer up playing solid roles all year we would be in a better spot then we are now. As well they would be even better players than they already are.

It's nice to have vets, but when your stars are already vets it comes to the point where we don't need guys like cleary, Sammy, miller, etc. are best players are vets and have been there in the playoffs. They are perfect for guys like Nyq and Tatar.

We are not a team like Edmonton where are whole top 6 is under 25 years old and we need vets to fill the depth to help the young guys. We have enough veteran presents. What we need is some utheful enthusiasm up front.

Tatar and nyquist will help provide that. Please babs and Kenny free these two!

#2377322 Mr Holland.....

Posted by Nyquistfan14 on 31 March 2013 - 02:46 PM

I disagree, I think Abby, Miller, Eaves, Emmy, and even Cleary all bust their asses.  Unfortunately, they're all expected to fulfill roles on this team that their skill sets don't allow for.  Cleary should be a third line winger, Abby a fourth line center, Miller and Eaves fourth line wingers, and Emmy as the 13 forward.  Relying on anything more than that is going to get exposed pretty badly against teams with actual depth. 

This is exactly correct. This is also why I don't really get mad at these players. It's not there fault that there being put into positions they simply just can't fill.

This is directly holland and babcocks fault. Why was Samuelson brought in? Tatar and nyquist can both fill that role better, cheaper, and will also grow because they are young. Also that 3M cap hit is saved an can be stalked up to bring in a shooter to play with pavel.

Babcock is to fault too. He's in love with guys like cleary, Sammy, miller, etc. guys like nyquist and Tatar are brought up and stuck on the bottom lines??? These are offensive guys throw them into the top six and I guarantee with a little time they will produce like top 6 players

#2377300 3/31 GDT: Blackhawks 7 Red Wings 1

Posted by Nyquistfan14 on 31 March 2013 - 02:31 PM

Everyone yammering for Nyqvist to be in to solve our scoring issues.....did I miss something?

Well he can't be any worse then cleary, Sammy and franzen

#2377137 3/31 GDT: Blackhawks 7 Red Wings 1

Posted by Nyquistfan14 on 31 March 2013 - 01:22 PM

if this aint showing kenny the lack of firepower we have i dont know what will. No Z and you take dats out then boy oh boy are we in trouble down the line. cant understand why when we know Z is out they scratch Nyqvist when he could have been given a more offensive role.

Exactly! I honestly am beside myself on this very thing. Guy is considered are top prospect and an offensive guy. We lose are second best player before the game and instead of inserting nyquist onto a second line we scratch him and throw in some duster 4th liners to fill the offense. Half the guys in this lineup tonight shouldn't play another game this year.

We should be playing nyquist, And Tatar. This isn't to say play the young guys were tanking. This is actually the opposite. These 2 are better than half the forwards in this damn lineup. I don't know who's making these decisions, but it's getting really sickening watching these plugs play in vital roles when we have cheaper, younger, better players rotting in the minors.

And I can't for the life of me understand why Tatar was thrown back down to GR. he was arguably are 4th best forward when playing. Sorry for the rant just so frustrating to see this crap

#2376932 3/31 GDT: Blackhawks 7 Red Wings 1

Posted by Nyquistfan14 on 31 March 2013 - 12:17 PM

Why on earth is brunner on 3rd line? Probably are most skilled guy behind datsyuk playing today and he's rotting on the 3rd line with a team that has a horrid top 6

#2376559 23 man roster question?

Posted by Nyquistfan14 on 30 March 2013 - 06:39 PM

ya, but you have to admit, my top 9 is better ;)

They would still call Pittsburgh the favorite tho! Lol

#2375715 3/28 GDT : Red Wings 0 at Sharks 2

Posted by Nyquistfan14 on 29 March 2013 - 12:05 AM

And please tell me why Tatar ir rotting in the minors?? This team needs more top 6 talent 

#2370621 Nyquist reassigned to GR

Posted by Nyquistfan14 on 18 March 2013 - 09:27 AM

Happy to have helm back but too bad it's at the expense of nyquist. I mean in all honesty helm should be playing with nyquist and Tatar to make up the deadliest 3rd line in hockey

#2358468 Mikael Samuelsson

Posted by Nyquistfan14 on 20 February 2013 - 08:42 PM

Yup. I am dead serious in that I'd rather see anyone in our organization play top 6 minutes over Cleary or Samuelsson, Defensemen included. These guys are 2 years past usefulness. But Cleary scored last night, right? That was all Datsyuk. I can bury an uncontested 10 footer. He's gonna miss that one 4 times out of 5. Why not give Emdog a few shifts with the magician? Anyone.

I totally agree with you on cleary and Sammy. How would you feel of a top 9 of..

Mule- zetterberg- brunner
Filppula- datsyuk- bertuzzi
Nyquist- helm- Tatar

I feel like that top 9 stacks up with the rest of the contenders in the league

#2358293 Mikael Samuelsson

Posted by Nyquistfan14 on 20 February 2013 - 01:35 PM

time to bring Nyquist back up, and put Tatar, Flip, and Nyquist on a line together!

Would not hate this line whatsoever! I just wanna see youth, skill, and speed in the top six!