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#2480696 2/3 GDT: Canucks 0 at Justin Abdelkader 2

Posted by Z Winged Dangler on 03 February 2014 - 07:44 PM

Nice to see Lashoff back.




#2481099 2/3 GDT: Canucks 0 at Justin Abdelkader 2

Posted by Dabura on 03 February 2014 - 11:22 PM

Quincey and not Abs? Dafuq?

 

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Quincey ruins everything.




#2480515 The NHL reffing affecting the game

Posted by Hockeymom1960 on 03 February 2014 - 07:12 AM

It's not the number of calls the refs make it's the timing of them.  I believe that they do try and control the outcome to a certain extent.  Of course they can't make a team win or lose but they can influence it to a certain degree.  That's my beef.




#2480461 2/2 GDT: Red Wings 5 at Capitals 6 (OT)

Posted by Wheelchairsuperhero on 02 February 2014 - 08:05 PM

Of course there was.  Are you saying nothing Detroit did was let go?  Of course there was.  It happens in EVERY SINGLE NHL GAME.  Officials miss calls they should make, make calls they shouldn't, don't see certain things, see things that didn't really happen....Just like the fans do.  They don't get to sit in front of the tv and watch replays in slo mo.  They have to make split second calls in a game that moves fast.  It has always been and always will be.  It isn't an anti-Red Wing conspiracy, it isn't Bettman's fault, it isn't Crosby or Ovechkin's fault.  

I don't remember saying there was an anti wings conspiracy, in fact I'm pretty sure I said I hate inconsistency both ways. My point was that they were clearly letting things go until suddenly they weren't, but that suddenly happened to be in OT causing a 4 on 3. The timing was stupid. I didn't say they missed calls because it was a fast game , I said they were intentionally not calling things and letting the players play. And the fact that it happens every game does not justify it, it's exactly my problem with it because it makes hockey aggravating to watch.


#2480423 The NHL reffing affecting the game

Posted by Wheelchairsuperhero on 02 February 2014 - 04:49 PM

Edit:  What this?  Oh, it's actual facts suggesting that they call less penalties now than in the past.  Interesting.
 
http://www.hockey-re...gues/stats.html

There's obviously less penalties, however that's irrelevant to me seeing as how the real issue is inconsistency, accuracy, and timing which remains just as bad if not worse. Situational calls are so obvious it's painful. Nice condescension though.


#2480416 The NHL reffing affecting the game

Posted by rick zombo on 02 February 2014 - 04:41 PM

Edit:  What this?  Oh, it's actual facts suggesting that they call less penalties now than in the past.  Interesting.

 

http://www.hockey-re...gues/stats.html

 

It’s not the number of penalties, it’s the timing. 

 

Today, Washington were given two early PPs to get rolling and one final PP to end the game. It reeks of being scripted.

 

That being said, I love that The Red Wings don’t dive (usually), don’t whine, and have a coach that never uses officiating as an excuse. 

 

As a fan, I mostly try to follow suit, but sometimes it’s sof****** infuriating to watch. 




#2480417 2/2 GDT: Red Wings 5 at Capitals 6 (OT)

Posted by Wheelchairsuperhero on 02 February 2014 - 04:42 PM

Theres no rule that says its not a penalty in OT. Smith has to be smart enough to avoid contact no matter how minor.Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

do you understand the concept of consistency? Because that's what the refs were severely lacking. Put the whistles away for the end of regulation and make a weak call that leads to a 4 on 3 of all things in OT, arguably the best situation for a team to be in. And for those of you saying "we'll the wings should be playing a 60 minute game and it's their fault", as a fan realizing we're not the dominant team we used to be it's horrendous and borderline not worth the aggravation of watching the refs largely influence the outcome of games with inconsistent calls. The Wings play is irrelevant to that fact.


#2480399 The NHL reffing affecting the game

Posted by dirtydangles on 02 February 2014 - 04:06 PM

Z got manhandled multiple times that game with no call including one right before the end of the 3rd. It makes sense then that the Caps don't get a soft pp in OT then - but the refs do it anyway. I don't mind the Z no call if they don't make that soft call in OT. 




#2480398 2/2 GDT: Red Wings 5 at Capitals 6 (OT)

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 02 February 2014 - 04:05 PM

The Wings defense and goaltending was suspect all game, and you can't spot a team two two-goal leads the way they did out of the gate and expect to win.... THAT SAID, when OT started it was 4-4 and the game was decided after that point. It was decided by a dive, and after the refs let plenty of grappling go in the 3rd. They decided the game the second they decided (read: chose) to call another soft trip and obvious dive. After that, the script went perfectly, OV with the winner at home in OT on Super Bowl Sunday.




#2480393 The NHL reffing affecting the game

Posted by Nev on 02 February 2014 - 04:01 PM

Am I missing something, that wasn't a trip?

 

Imagine if every player deliberately skated over an opponents stick, threw themselves to the ice and got a penalty for it (including a nice soccer style fist pump for drawing the call).  It'd be 60 minutes of 3on3.

 

I genuinely thought the Caps player was getting called for diving at first.




#2480387 The NHL reffing affecting the game

Posted by mjtm77 on 02 February 2014 - 03:56 PM

Obv are defense isint great, but this is not a thread about defense. It's a thread about how the officiating across the NHL is horrible and watching hockey games is like watching a predicable tv show or listening to the lyrics from a nickelback song


#2480377 The NHL reffing affecting the game

Posted by mjtm77 on 02 February 2014 - 03:47 PM

no body knows what a penalty is. They call it based on who is trailing/ who has more power plays, in IIHF a penalty is a penalty

This isn't news, but it never ceases to infuriate. The biggest difference in games like this is that the Wings refuse to go down, while the Caps flop, throw hands up, and dive relentlessly. The league has done nothing to fix the diving and bulls***. The second we got to OT I knew what the perfect ending for the network was: penalty and OV goal.


Couldn't agree more. The NHL is turning into some scripted fairy tale. And is not just redwings games.


#2480376 The NHL reffing affecting the game

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 02 February 2014 - 03:44 PM

This isn't news, but it never ceases to infuriate. The biggest difference in games like this is that the Wings refuse to go down, while the Caps flop, throw hands up, and dive relentlessly. The league has done nothing to fix the diving and bulls***. The second we got to OT I knew what the perfect ending for the network was: penalty and OV goal.




#2480392 2/2 GDT: Red Wings 5 at Capitals 6 (OT)

Posted by lomekian on 02 February 2014 - 04:01 PM

Cant blame the refs. Wings D gave up 4 gimmie goals. Stop blaming the refs. The Wings werent good enough today. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

 

Yes and no. I've lost count of how many times this season and the last 2 where tight games involving the wings have been massively influenced by the officials. We all know the team has problems, and many are self inflicted, but as someone who has to watch games at unsociable hours most of the time, the constantly poor officiating is sapping my will to watch the games at a far greater rate than the incompetence of our veteran spare parts and the accident prone D




#2480390 2/2 GDT: Red Wings 5 at Capitals 6 (OT)

Posted by Nev on 02 February 2014 - 03:58 PM

The ovi show. I can't belive that people are not more mad.

 

What, mad that we could stop the best goalscorer in the league from nailing a laser during a 4-on-3 that resulted from a blatant dive? 

 

Honestly after that dreadful 1st period we should be delighted with a point.