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#2179808 (1) Vancouver Canucks vs. (2) San Jose Sharks

Posted by Cali-Wing-Nut on 25 May 2011 - 08:36 PM

Lol @ judging a fanbase based on kids on internet forums.

Go to a Wings/Sharks game next season Cali wearing your Wings jersey and see how "friendly" the sharks fans really are. Oh, and bring some of your crew, as those "friendly" folks will try to physically attack you as well as throw beers and s*** at you for wearing your Wings jersey there and cheering for your team.

While I haven't been to every arena, in the ones I have, I have never experienced such assholes as those sharks "fans". I'm just glad I went there somewhat recently, now that I'm older, calmer, and more pacifistic, as if that s*** had happened to me 10 years ago, I wouldn't have had the strength to try to brush it off, and there probably would have been one guy in prison (me) and several severely injured sharks "fans".

Maybe it was a fluke or something, but that experience is burned in my mind and my opinion of those fans is cemented.

Thats just one guys experience though, yours may vary...

Its real sad that you got a minus 5 on that as that happened to me TWICE!! I went to 3 Wings games this year, both regular season games and Game 1 of the playoffs.

First time I grouped together with about 10 other Wings guys that were at least 6'. There was a gang of at least 30 people that started circling us as we left the game and there was a moment when a full on brawl almost broke out (spitting, the usual verbal s*** and one guy got a water bottle thrown at him from someone but missed).

Second time was after Game 1 and just me and my dad were leaving the game and same type of encircling thing by a healthy group of guys. Since it was just 2 of us we walked the crowd towards a cop car in order to quell the situation.

I wont say all sharks fans are like this, thats painting too wide of a brush. A Raiders game on the other hand can end it serious physical attacks if you arent wearing black with certainty. The fact that it happened both times we lost says alot. The first game of the season when we won the fans walked out pretty sedate. Its when they are all pumped up I have been a target since I wear ALL red, not just a sweater. Head to toe red and it has been a magnet for conflict.

Ill continue to go there to watch my wings and hope that my pop and I dont get involved in a fight and end up either hurt or in jail or both.

All in all Id say Sharks fans are about 60-40 good bad maybe 70-30. Lower level fans are way cool, its the upper level guys that get drunk and come in groups on 10 billion that are problematic. Ive been to other venues for hockey and for other pro sports and SJ is one of the dicier places. Granted never been to Pittsburg, Philly or Montreal which I would guess are pretty gnarly as far as fan go so I dont have a complete yard stick in order to measure against.

Lets just say that Ive been to Kings vs Lakers games in Sacramento back in our heyday and it was no where near what it was like at HP poovillion.

Just my own experiences, maybe being a 6'6" guy sporting red in a rival building encourages it but it really shouldnt happen.

PS hope I dont get minuses for a personal experience.

#2179392 (1) Vancouver Canucks vs. (2) San Jose Sharks

Posted by Cali-Wing-Nut on 25 May 2011 - 01:57 AM

Who cares?


I see them like the Avs of a few years back WHEN WE WENT TO THE CUP (sorry to rub it in to SJ fans, it must be tough never seeing a SCF with your team in it) No take that back Im not sorry lol

Itll take a day for the Sharks fans to figure out who choked first and who choked worst. :bye2: :bye2: :bye2:

How bout a round of applause for the Wings that McLallenchoke said wore them out :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Thanks to SJ for making me 150 Washington's for calling that they would lead the game and lose it. I have a drink in your favor lmfao

The season is done IMO who cares who wins the Cup as long as the Sharks dont have a chance at it.

I will sleep well tonight.

Heres to a horrible 21st year for the Guppies


#2179369 (1) Vancouver Canucks vs. (2) San Jose Sharks

Posted by Cali-Wing-Nut on 25 May 2011 - 12:14 AM

Agreed. One team of floppers gone. One to go.

It'd be nice to see Tampa win, but honestly I'd be okay with Boston too. Vancouver will be tough to beat in the finals, but I'd love for their condescending, obnoxious, self-entitled fans to choke on it for another year. :D

And this is from someone who was a big fan of Linden, Courtnall and Bure...

Someone over on hfboards pointed out its this same day in 1994 the Canucks won the in double OT to go onto the Stanley Cup Finals. And lost in seven games to the Rangers.

So maybe there's hope?

I kind of can't believe I'm rooting for the Eastern Conference...

Believe it and do it. Weve disagreed on few things but follow this,

Rule 1. Root for the Wings

Rule 2. Root against San Jose, Chicago, Pitt and Colorado

Rule 3. Root for the team that benefits the Wings.

Rule 4. Root against Canadiens

Rule 5. Root for the East if they arent a team listed in Rule 2

Rule 6. Root for the team that has ex-Wings players in the organization.

Looks like we should be saying GO BOLTS about now!!!!

BTW thats why I was pulling for the Kings. Lilja on the team, benefits the wings, rooting against the Sharks. It was a perfect team to pull for other than us.

OH I am f***in so stoked right now. Its a second place to seeing us going to the cup.

#2178807 Off-Season Photoshops

Posted by Cali-Wing-Nut on 23 May 2011 - 10:22 PM

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Should be off-season about that time tomorrow

#2178786 Brian Rafalski announces retirement after 11 NHL seasons

Posted by Cali-Wing-Nut on 23 May 2011 - 09:57 PM

Please no to Kaberle or Brewer. Keep in mind Torres is a UFA as well. Not sure the Canucks cap situation, but after they win the cup, it should be harder to retain everyone.

Dunno about you but Torres is a total goon and Id be a bit embarassed to dress a guy like him. He doesnt have an awesome 'stache like Perros but that are brothas from utha muthas if you get my drift.

#2178057 Derek Boogaard found dead

Posted by Cali-Wing-Nut on 21 May 2011 - 10:44 PM

I just read that Bo was in the NHL substance abuse program when he died.

Boogaard mixed drugs and alcohol

Obviously he was addicted to oxy which is all too common. Percocet, Oxycontin and Roxicontin are all the same thing in different mixtures or dosages. Percocet is mixed with APAP (asprin), Oxycontin is a sustained release pill and Roxicontin is for immediate release.

All of these have the same probabilty of addiction and side effects.

Hydrocodone like Vicodin and Norco are mixed with asprin and although highly addictive, way safer than Oxycodone in the long run.

Its sad to see people that would never in a million years take heroin be prescribed oxy for an injury and become addicted to it like a junkie on the street. Old ladies with arthritis that are strung out, athletes and actors OD'ing and high schoolers ruining their lives all because of an over prescribed pill.

I believe pharmeceutical companies are making way too much money one way or another from these medications to stop and find something better that treats pain without being a potential recreational drug.

Forgive me for preaching but this drug is worse than cocaine, meth or heroin because normal people that may have been in a car wreck or broke a bone all of a sudden are thrust into dealing with drug addiction, opiate withdrawl and possible death from abuse. This needs to stop as its ruining millions of peoples lives that didnt sign up for those type of issues.

#2177886 (1) Vancouver Canucks vs. (2) San Jose Sharks

Posted by Cali-Wing-Nut on 21 May 2011 - 12:42 AM

Is it just me or are the game changing calls just a way of life for the NHL?

This league is starting resemble the WWF err WWE

I got to fold up the tin foil long johns for the season when the Wings left for the season but I can still see the playmaking by the league.

It is unbelievably obvious that they are making calls to get a series going the way they want. More drama, more viewers. It works for Law and Order and CSI right?

I lost count of how many penalties Vancouver took early on. Remember not count the last penalty on SJ as it happened as time ran down and obviously wont carry over.

This farce to let a team get way ahead and then let the other team get close in the end by evening calls is losing my attention real quick and I will find another sport to watch if this s*** keeps up.

This is not the NHL I watched and made me keep watching. This is professional wrestling with the Ref going ONE- - - TWO - - - THRE... OHH HE CAME BACK!!!

Im giving up real quick. I bet this goes 7 games and Vancouver wins. The Sedins will be treated like heroes going into the cup. Luongo will be questioned just like Osgood then he'll find a way.

The series is already decided but they cant make it look to obvious so they drag it out to look really close.

Im sure some know I hate the Sharks and wish nothing but failure but watching this went overboard. The last game was so lopsided it had to have a "turning point" to keep it close. Who wants to watch two teams that went 7 games do anything but ANOTHER 7 games?!?!

Bettman can suck my dogs sweaty ball sack

#2177874 Derek Boogaard found dead

Posted by Cali-Wing-Nut on 20 May 2011 - 11:23 PM

Legalize medical marijuana. You cant OD on it even mixed with alcohol.

This isnt always the solution, but in terms of long term pain and even some mental problems it can get the job done safely.

Maybe in Bo's situation some doja would take care of things but from a person that has had to deal with RX opiates (diluadid drip, 400mg/day oxy now methadone for chronic pain) from a horrible near death accident I sustained, burning one isnt gonna take care of it. I tried and it doesnt help serious pain. Serious pain as in pain that will bring you to tears if not treated, broken rib pain not broken finger pain.

I know how easy it is to have a bottle of oxy and know that the script wont be refilled for a month but youre in horrible pain so you drink a beer to increase the pain killing properties. There is a point where you will simply vomit up everything if you get to much oxy with too much alcoho as long as the oxy has already kicked in. The bad thing is that most chronic pain scripts are for Oxy SR which is slow release. Unlike roxycontin which hits you in minutes (and is used for break through pain) oxycodone sr takes about 20-30 mins to take affect.

With that said I could easily see how easy it would be to wash down an extra 40(mg) or 2 of oxy over your prescribed amount with a shot or three or 5 of your favorite booze and in 45 mins you will be passed out and not breathing. I had an issue with that minus alcohol early on when I came home from the hospital and kept taking pills cause it wasnt kicking in and then all of a sudden my GF was slapping me to wake up cause I was turning blue and was rushed to the ER.


I have tried to speak out against oxycontin as a take home drug because of the enormous risk for abuse, serious dependency within a week as well as the risk of death if you dont have a proper tolerance for the drug. It is heroin, you just dont shoot it. From what Ive been told it gives you the same rush, the same high and the same risks to your health. Its sad that its so often prescribed uneccesarily and that other treatments havent been developed. Same goes for Xanax and other drugs that are highly addictive and have a high probabilty of fatality when mixed with even moderate amounts of alcohol which just so happen increase the drugs effects.

I pray for Bos family, they are grieving the death of a great guy that died unnecessarily.

To any of you out there that here this, please dont take Oxy recreationally and please dont mix it with alcohol, mix it with other meds like Xanax and if you need to take more call your dr at once to explain the issue cause you will be labeled a drug seeker if you empty your scripts early. If you are in more pain than what is prescribed a dr should see you to figure out why what they thought would help didnt. I had 6 extra surgeries because of missed or secondary issues that caused pain and me to need an extrordinary amount of that s***. Also, Methadone is a great pain reliever for chronic pain without getting you all loopy and drugged up. If you are taking it to feel drugged up STOP NOW. You arent taking it for the right reason and you are risking addiction if you arent already.

Please heed this advise it could really save your life.

Bo you and your family are in my prayers.

#2176112 Jonathan Ericsson Appreciation Thread

Posted by Cali-Wing-Nut on 16 May 2011 - 12:59 AM

Ericsson is a decent #5/6. I all for Holland bringing him back if the deal makes sense (no more than ($1.5 million). I think E will be wearing red and white next season.

I hope you dont complain about our defense if that happens. Just cause hes cheap doesnt mean hes worth it (and 1.5 isnt cheap for what he brings to the table).

Furthermore, Why arent we hoping we can have solid 1 or 2 guys as 5 or 6 guys? We had it before and we won cups. Settling for less is the reason we are close but not winning.

Ill take #1 or #2 guys from #11-#14 teams for our bottom feeders. Its been shown that the better players on shoddy teams are willing to eat some salray to play on a team that can go the distance or have a good chance.

For once maybe we should draft in some expensive guys that have immediate return on investment and shuffle the guys we already have to make a decent team.

I dont follow college or minor league prospects so Im at a disadvantage at calling who we should pick but I wouldnt mind making some trades for a young superstar. Holland likes to weed out cheap players in the minors and stab them into the league at their prime. I question that tactic as it has about 20-30% return on investment as well as losing good players to trades before they even made it to the big leagues.

This will be the last post from me on this thread (as long as I dont get qouted) but I think we need to play Tatar, Mursak and Kindl. These are three men that have a lot to give, are young and free of injury, cheap and all have the potential for being superstars or at very least very important players.

Tatar may not be Crosby but he is gonna overshadow Z just needs ice time.

CWN out!

#2175976 Jonathan Ericsson Appreciation Thread

Posted by Cali-Wing-Nut on 15 May 2011 - 07:35 PM

By who? Who said that he would be the next Lidstrom who hits like Kronwall? I never heard anyone say anything even close to that about him. Babcock called him a stud in one quote, but that's about it. Even in Grand Rapids they were saying he needed to bulk up and play with a mean streak. Eeven among his supporters I don't remember anyone here ever saying he'd be a Lidstrom with Kronner's hitting. Actually, anyone comparing any d-man on the Wings to Lids AND Kronner would get laughed at, for starters.

I couldn't find the Red Wings prospect review, but on hockeys future they said he could develop into a #4-6 D-man, which still sounds about right.


Exactly what point of yours does his being drafted last prove? My point was it should give some indication of expectations for him, or how the fact he's in the lineup at all is a win for the Wings.

Emotional needs for him to play well? I'm not sure what you're referring to. You seem to be the one who has a lot more emotions involved when it comes to Ericsson.

I have talked about Ericsson's upsides in several posts. His biggest asset to the team is probably his puck moving ability. Ericsson has a very good first pass. Better than Stuart and Salei. It leads to some brutal turnovers because he doesn't seem to have it between the ears yet. But it's his second full season. I'm guessing Detroit is hoping his decision making will continue to improve and there will inevitably be growing pains as he tries to stretch his role on the team.

His size is also an asset. He's not as physical as he should be, but the Wings blueline is undersized and he provides some. He'd be a greater asset if he played nastier. And to be clear, I'm not saying Ericsson is some awesome defenseman. But he's big, somewhat physical, will drop the gloves on occasion, good passer, cheap, relatively young, and could still improve. Put that all together and he's a decent bottom pairing guy.

And now you're saying $2 mill to replace him. If we're talking about re-signing E for that, then that does add to potential other D-men out there. I was saying around 1.25 mill.

No short memory here. Again, you seem to be angry because Ericsson didn't turn out to be a savior for the Wings defensive corps. I don't think anyone realistically thought he would be that. Everything I saw he was projected to be a #4-6 d'man. If he turns out to be that, it's a win for the Wings. And either way I don't see why Ericsson should take all the blame for not replacing the Wings aging defensive corps. Isn't that Holland's job?

"Having played center most of his life, Ericsson enjoys an impressive skill-set. He has excellent mobility and agility for a player his size, possesses solid hands, has above average puck skills, and makes a very good first pass. His shotís not too shabby either, having recorded a 100.1 mph slap shot at the 2008 AHL skills competition.

But donít let his soft hands fool you. He plays a physical brand of hockey with a willingness to protect his teammates by dropping the gloves."

Bleacher report scouting Report 2008

I highlighted what was talked about him by almost everyone. A big shooter that wouldnt think twice about taking care of business. Sounds like Nick crossed with Kron to me. Isnt that why they were pairing him with Nicky during the 09 cup? I remember them saying that he was being taught to play like Nick. That ended in failure. Ill give you this, he finally stopped trying to poke check pucks away and at least attempted to get in front of it as well as he could.

As far as his size is concerned, you claim he add some size at the blueline as an asset. What good is size if he is either unwilling or unable to use it? Potential is one thing, hell I had the potential to be an NBA basketball player except I didnt shoot good enough for a guy that is 6'6". Just cause Im tall and have some size doesnt mean I was able to play at the level required for the DRW. He is far from physical and a serious pushover. Like I said and you seem to acknowledge is that he doesnt use his body to his advantage.

His first pass is fine as long as there isnt a forecheck that is worth a damn on the ice. His dump pass into the zone is scary soft and almost always ends in a quick outlet pass the other way right past him. Again potential vs results. Potential:10 Results: -100

As far as saying that it sounds like an emotional argument from you and some others, you sound like a codependent spouce of an alcoholic. "Hell get better" is the operative phase. We arent rebuilding a team last time I checked, people like myself expect results from the team. I get angry because he is given too much time and as of yet I dont have an indication that he is gonna get dropped.

As far as his failure as a player being blamed on him? What can I say hes out there on the ice and he aint doin s***.

As far as it being Holland fault instead? Who are you gonna trade him to? He thought he was gonna be awesome just like Babs and everyone else including me at the time. He actually played ok in 09 but that must have been freshman luck cause 4 months later and he stunk to high heaven.

Its Hollands fault if he keeps him. Like the saying goes, Trick me once shame on you, Trick me twice, Shame on HOLLAND.

I guess we will have to agree to disagree about how good he actually is and what hes worth.

Oh and Salei is no better, except that he volunteered to not play for weeks at a time. That was nice.

#2175601 Jonathan Ericsson Appreciation Thread

Posted by Cali-Wing-Nut on 14 May 2011 - 04:30 PM

The giveaway and hits stat is... quite sad.

The points stat isn't. He was supposed to be the defensive defenseman on the Jonny-Rafi pairing.

Well he blew that. Thing is everything I always read/heard about what they were hoping from him was a big body Dman with the hands of a Forward since thats what he tried to be and failed doing.

The rationale was that Johnny Turnover would be Nicky with Krons hitting abilty. sadly I cant find the link I had posted on a different forum where he actually stepped out of the way of a puck being shot which screened Howie and led to a goal. Cant remember the team, wanna say the Stars, the Blues or Blue Jackets.

People that have seen him play in person have a whole new level of disdain for him. TV tends to stay with the puck so you cant see what he is doing on the ice but it takes bad play to a whole new level.

My point with this is that he has been given a chance. Even if you give him the benefit of the doubt that hes new to the position, how long do you let someone screw things up before moving on? If Detroit wants a half assed D man that is 6'6 220, they can hire me. Ill play for league minimum and would probably show more heart and try than him. Hope he goes to the minors, no team deserves what he brings.

#2175574 Jonathan Ericsson Appreciation Thread

Posted by Cali-Wing-Nut on 14 May 2011 - 03:03 PM

Was it just me of did 80% of the time Erickson had the puck did he almost turn it over?

Well Ericsson led our defense with 70 giveaways through the full season and led the team with 14 in 11 games of the playoffs. He had 1 more blocked shot than KINDL at 37 for the whole regular season with almost double the amount of games played as Jakob.

How bout hits? Hes our biggest D man and had the least hits of any of our bangers.

Numbers dont lie 15 points NOT goals, POINTS in 74 games from a guy that averages 18+ minutes a game is horrid. The fact he doesnt help with anything else sticks a fork in it. Some teams have a D man that cant shoot but does other things well. Truthfully, WHAT DOES ERICSSON DO WELL????

Answer is nothing.

#2175528 Jonathan Ericsson Appreciation Thread

Posted by Cali-Wing-Nut on 14 May 2011 - 01:19 PM

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you're drunk and hence have an overinflated sense of your comedic talents (spoiler: not funny).

Our top four D-men are solid. If you'd asked me a few days ago I would have said get rid of Salei and E, but I think Ericsson could use a little more time to get comfortable with playing D. Once that happens, there's a good chance we'll see more physicality out of him. Salei can go. Rafalski is killing us with that contract, but when he wants to be effective he generally can, so it's not the end of the world.

In summary: Not funny. Salei gone, Ericsson as #6, sign someone to play be #5.

Not trying to be funny I despise #52, He scored 1 time in the playoffs and was completely worthless in the regular season. He is a traffic hazard. Hes best at watching not playing and heaven forbid he does anything close to sacrificial like blocking a shot.

Hes soft on the boards, his lack of movement ends up setting picks on our own guys or screens Howie. He has cost us numerous games. Oh and how bout those blind drop passes he loves to do for a chasing forward FROM THE OTHER TEAM ?!?!?!

Hes had enough time to get comfortable and thank god hes a UFA.

#2175419 Jonathan Ericsson Appreciation Thread

Posted by Cali-Wing-Nut on 14 May 2011 - 02:11 AM

Although a few on this forum probably wish Id do what I said Id do earlier but I will seriously consider Draino down the gullet to watching Road Block, Traffic cone, Pileon aka a pathetic excuse for a D Man sport a Wings uni again.

Ericssucks and Sakei need a plane ticket to NOT IN HOCKEYTOWN,

Raffy aint that bad, he just needs someone to help him out on the blue line.

Heres to rebuilding our defensive lines in there entirety, unless it doesnt include Nick although Im not good at holdin gmy breath.

#2174588 A prayer for our team

Posted by Cali-Wing-Nut on 12 May 2011 - 11:48 PM

I believe god gave us the strength to fight on and yes I believe angles were there.

I still thank god for what happened. I got 7 games out of Nick instead of 4 and thats good enough for me.

Hate to see how the rest of your life is though . Probably a bitter hateful person. I bet you tal to yourself about how idiotic people are and tell yourself how smart you are.

I may be dumb and maybe Im not but Belief gives people a will to keep going.

Faith that theres a reason for what your doing goes a long way.

Obviously god was with all the players. Look at Clowe. He was demolished and came back in Game 7. Look at Bucky, hes a blessed man to score the way he does.

I dont think God picks sides but I think God picks people that believe.

Hope you feel justified that we lost just so you think you can rub in something to my face that is hardly gonna bother me or any other true believer.

I believed and I got what I asked for. You got nothing but being upset.