Here's what cracks me up - Edzo and Co. keep whining about the "subtle interference" the Wings get away with - if that's true, at least the Wings make an effort to be subtle. At 11:38 in this video Franzen in on his knees after the whistle is blown. 2 Hawks come up to him and start crosschecking him, one in front, one in back. That's the kind of s*** Chicago pulls and gets away with, so I don't want to hear one more word from Edzo and Hawks fans about anything penalty related.
In that national writers take notice article on freep today was first time I seen someone mention that Hank and Dats have to deal with the clutch and grab constantly too...first time someone admitted it:
■ Allan Muir, si.com: When Jonathan Toews watches the tape of Chicago’s 2-0 Game 4 loss in Detroit, he should pay close attention to the play of his nemesis Henrik Zetterberg and of Zetterberg’s Red Wings teammate Pavel Datsyuk. He’ll see the two stars were subjected to a series of hooks, jabs, slashes and all manner of uncalled cheap shots, just as Toews was. He might also notice that, despite that duress, they rarely lost their cool. And really, that was the difference (Thursday). ... While Toews and the Hawks allowed their frustration to get the best of them over and over again, the Red Wings simply gritted their teeth, put their heads down and kept their focus.
By the way, I love how Edzo is commentating on how to beat Howard.. .talking about if he pull high out of net then he can't recover and you have to get the puck in behind him. Does he have a feed right to Hawk's assistant coach's ears? Also as pointed out earlier in thread him trying to add his voice to the Hawks whining talking about subtle interference, hopefully refs get annoyed that he thinks they aren't smart enough to see it.
Couldn't post at first intermission, thoughts so far.
Why can't we exploit their cherry pickers? They have almost 2 per play now...
3 uncalled penalties, 2 saw and called by Pierre. Another elbow to the head of Cleary, good job NHL stopping head targetting. A cross check by Rosival or maybe Stalberg that broke their stick on someone's back... and then the mugging of Franzen in front of the goal. Cross check uncalled.
Plus almost every time a wing is heading to the boards they are cross check/pushing them in the back...
Last thought, I don't see how they are complaining about clutch and grab when they have two people draped over Dats every time he touches puck, he has to pull off a miracle move, split the D every time or he loses the puck.
Couple of thoughts I have had last couple of days:
1. I am not sure why Toews is crying about being roughed up a bit... the majority of it is right in front of the net or on rebounds (some on the boards during forechecking, very little open ice hits)... Does he think because he is a star that he is entitled to his freedom while in front of the net trying to jump on rebounds? Have to give him credit that not a lot of stars muck it up in that area, but if he does he is going to get roughed up, sorry Jonny.
2. I really think the Anaheim forecheck (so far) has been better than the Hawks. And it really got us ready to handle the Hawks forecheck. Hawks may have more in them that they haven't shown us yet and it is possible for them to out forecheck what Anaheim threw at us, but I really think we got good practice in Anaheim.
So far a Hawks caller today had the gall to call Dats' laser beam over Crawford's right shoulder a soft goal. And they want Crawford out, hahaha... Pasha is only one of the top players in the league.
Lot of talk about the interference call, which I probably agree with however I also believe it was a deserved make up call for the no call on Franzen boarding. They had Cotsonika from yahoo on (who apparently covered Detroit before?) and he said it was a bad call off for a goal however he had the smarts in the very next breath to say there were lots of bad calls including the no call on Franzen which if it was a penalty would have not allowed Kane to score.
They think the no goal broke their momentum, but without Kane goal to break the shutout, they might not have had that momentum.
That is my Chicago radio report so far today... waiting on McNeil.
For sure! Totally agree. But saying what you just said is a lot more humble and a lot less jinx-ified than the posts before mine!!!
I guess my "hahaha" was too much for you, I will try to refrain from the laughter in future posts. Nothing else in the post was any more jinx worthy than our normal ribbing of Chicago fans or sports radio.
I'd respect them more if they brought it up as an inconsistency of the refs when it followed a goal that should have been whistled dead before by a no call penalty. But, they are only acting like the refs have only been screwing them.
Also, the bitching about us roughing them up seems to fall flat too considering Bickell and Shaw have been hitting our guys in the head since game 1.