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#2530769 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by Datsyukian-Deke on 09 July 2014 - 10:33 AM

@ArthurJRegner said #RedWings would like to move players like Landon Ferraro to #Capitals for Mike Green.
 
Annnnd, there goes that.


If Holland is able to trade for Green with Ferraro being the centerpiece and some draft picks I will renounce my will for him to be fired.


#2530651 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by Datsyukian-Deke on 08 July 2014 - 04:11 PM

I'd be ok with giving up Backman or Jensen and Ferraro and a 3rd for a year of Green. Possibly resign him if he really impresses.


Well he would have to waive his NTC to come here so if we did make the trade he would, at least on some level, want to be a wing. I think it would be very likely he would re-sign with us after one year. Detroit may not be the top destination for UFA's any more but we def don't have problems keeping guys here once they play here.


#2530634 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by Datsyukian-Deke on 08 July 2014 - 03:01 PM

People also seem to think Kindl has positive value in a trade. At his contract, I don't think that's the case.


Yea I see Kindl as more of a burden when trading. Like "please take this contract off our hands and we will give you more value".

If Ken Holland is really the top GM that he thinks he is, he will get Green without giving up Jurco/Nyquist/Mantha/Tatar.


#2530604 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by Datsyukian-Deke on 08 July 2014 - 01:14 PM

The Red Wings have targeted Mike Green and are looking to make a deal soon according to a source close to the team.

http://msn.foxsports...e-target-070814

http://www.mlive.com...appears_be.html

http://prohockeytalk...traded-by-caps/

I personally wouldn't mind Green granted it's for the right price.


#2530603 Hockey News: Red Wings D hunting

Posted by Datsyukian-Deke on 08 July 2014 - 01:12 PM

Mike Green is the Red Wings target. We are trying to make a deal quickly according to Fox Sports

http://msn.foxsports...e-target-070814


#2530506 What's best for Mantha?

Posted by Datsyukian-Deke on 07 July 2014 - 09:32 PM

This is a link to the puck daddy article for the 2012 nhlpa player poll, unfortunately it does not appear to be on the cbc's website any longer.  
 
https://ca.sports.ya...-183449176.html
 
Detroit ranks second as the team players would most like to play for and if my memory is correct Babs was in the top 3 for coaches that players wanted to play for.  Everyone is overreacting to us not getting every free agent we want.  As marcaractac laid out there's often good reasons people sign elsewhere. 

Yea I read an article that Boyle signed with NY not because he didn't like the other teams that were after him but because he truly wanted to play in NY. Niskanen wanted to play with Orpik in Wash. Robidas said he chose Toronto because he has family in Toronto. Stralman would have signed here but asked for us to add on one more year and Holland said no.

So I think it was just odd circumstances that people didn't sign here and not this huge conspiracy that people don't want to play for the Wings or Babcock.

But anyway back to Mantha. The longer we keep him in Grand Rapids the better chance he has of stepping into the NHL and being an impact player right away.


#2530325 Hockey News: Red Wings D hunting

Posted by Datsyukian-Deke on 07 July 2014 - 12:30 AM

I'd trade Tatar + Kindl (roster spot) + 1st 2015 for Myers but that is about it. Jurco is too valuable with his size and skill blend and Nyquist is just too good already to move. Obviously I'd rather give up Pulkkinen before Tatar but Pulkkinen wouldn't be enough to get it done as a main piece. I'd be most willing to give up the our prospects in this order:
 
Pulkkinen
Tatar
Backman
Marchenko
Ouellet
Jurco = Nyquist
Sproul
Mantha
 
I just think Tatar is most easiest replaced due to his size and Pulkkinen could step into his shoes. 


Or we don't trade for anyone and keep our talent and try to sign a free agent for free next year. Myers doesn't win us a cup.


#2530239 What's best for Mantha?

Posted by Datsyukian-Deke on 06 July 2014 - 12:45 PM

I think it's very important that this kid gets handed nothing. He needs to earn his spot. I think he needs to start on the 3rd line in GR and prove he can be in the top 6. Then prove he is capable of getting a call up. When he gets called up, he needs to start on the fourth line. The kid has been a hot shot his whole life and although I think he has a great attitude so far, I don't want him handed a spot and turn into a loafing Franzen that is good only when he wants to be.


#2530185 What's best for Mantha?

Posted by Datsyukian-Deke on 05 July 2014 - 10:09 PM

Holland trusts Blashill's opinion about when the kids are ready. He will start in GR and I think best case scenario is he plays a couple NHL games this season. I may have to watch more GR games this year.


#2529970 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by Datsyukian-Deke on 04 July 2014 - 01:41 PM


Aaron Ward ‏@aaronward_nhl  7m

David Legwand comes to terms with the Ottawa Senators on a 2 year deal, 6M total #TSN


So we officially spent a 2nd rounder and Jarnkrok on a rental...good work Kenny!


#2529760 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by Datsyukian-Deke on 03 July 2014 - 01:10 PM

lecavalier possibly to the sens.
 
 
source: http://prohockeytalk...out-lecavalier/

Funny we were all super disappointed we didn't land him last year and now Philly has to beg people to take him. I think Niskanen is going to be a similar story.


#2529499 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by Datsyukian-Deke on 02 July 2014 - 01:50 PM

wonder if we can get Andrej Sustr out of Tampa and then trade Quincey to Buffalo for Myers in a deal?
 
would make the bottom pairing huge


You gotta stop playing NHL 14


#2529106 Quincey re-signed by DET. 2 yr s $4.25 mill AAV

Posted by Datsyukian-Deke on 01 July 2014 - 08:13 PM

You know, it really amazes me how quickly everyone seems to just want to fire KH and blow up the ship. And because of what exactly? We re-signed a guy who played well for us in the second half and has a proven track record of being a solid 3-4 D man. So we didn't sign any big name free agents, and? Did we really want Boyle here for 3 years? No. Orpik for 5 years and $5.5m? No. Niskanen for 7 years? I didn't. Stralman for 5 years? No. The list goes on and on. Guys who are cashing in on one or two good years (besides Boyle) and using the thin market to drive up their prices. It is frankly, a joke. The worst thing the wings could have done was to sign someone like that for a massive term which locks us in, blocking the path for 1 or 2 kids when they are ready either this season or next. 
 
Why is it that we are so quick to lambast something that we don't like, yet it takes 100 things to satisfy us? I mean, for crying out loud, we're not the Leafs. It's not like we haven't won a cup in the last 50 years. And also, it's not even like we're not competitive anymore. This team was a playoff team. Granted, the last 2 years have been touch and go, but 2 years ago we took the cup champs to 7 and had them on the ropes. In that 2012-13 roster, there were 26 players who were part of this seasons roster. 26!!!!!!!! And this season, most were injured, and yet somehow, due to some strong play of guys who will form the future of this team, we made it in. 
 
There is, quite clearly, a rebuild in progress at the moment. And it amazes me how people can't seem to get excited about the future prospects of Dekeyser, Tatar, Nyquist, Sheahan, Jurco, Sproul, Marchenko, Ouellet, Mantha, Mrazek. Combined with a healthy D and Z and the other GOOD pieces we have on this team. So what's changed? Why has everyone become so despondent, when really, I think our time is coming right around the corner. Maybe not this year, but the year after for sure. If our kids continue trending upwards, we'll be right up there. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but to ignore the obvious positives that are emanating from this teams future and insist on throwing everything out in the trash just because we struck out on 1 day of the year is, in my eyes, nuts. 

It's because ever since the Salary Cap, Holland has consistently either been afraid to pull the trigger on the top free agents, or been unable to land the top free agents and create a franchise that players want to play for. Sure he has had to deal with losing some of the greats (aka Lidstrom) but he has been content with keeping this team a competitive first round team while our super star players continue to age. He is a GM that was spoiled early in his tenure when everyone wanted to come here and take a pay cut pre-salary cap and now does not know how to handle when the big fish no longer want the lure.


#2529069 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by Datsyukian-Deke on 01 July 2014 - 07:45 PM

@HeleneStJames: SJS had tried for a couple days to move D Brad Stuart. DET was on his 8-team list to waive NTC. #RedWings didn't want to trade 2&6 rd picks.


I'm ok with that. Not worth our second in a very good draft year.


#2528997 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by Datsyukian-Deke on 01 July 2014 - 07:03 PM

Ok guys sounds like everyone needs a pick me up.....so here goes.................Hampus Melen.