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kipwinger

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In Topic: Give Patrick Hersley a shot?

Today, 12:14 PM

I never have a problem signing a guy like that to a two way contract, but I'd be really surprised if he could contribute in the NHL right away. The transition from big to small ice takes a while. I'd certainly look into it though.

In Topic: Slava Fetisov blames KGB for Soviet loss in 1980

23 January 2015 - 08:11 PM

Sounds like sour grapes to me. Suck it up Slava, you lost bro.

In Topic: Time for Teemu?

23 January 2015 - 04:34 PM

Making Mantha or Larkin off-limits is no different. Nyquist and Tatar would have much more value, possibly enough to justify the risk of not being able to replace their production. Jurco's value is probably about the same as Pulkkinen's or a bit higher. Sheahan is probably close to Nyquist/Tatar. Helm would certainly have some decent value, probably Abby as well at the moment. Weiss might even draw some interest.

 

Pulkkinen has a rather unique skillset in our system. One that could potentially make us a more well-rounded and dangerous team. While I don't think anyone should ever be completely off-limits, I think he is someone we should make an effort to hang on to.

 

Sure, if were getting a good, proven young player that can help now and in the future, and the other team demands either Mantha or Pulkkinen, maybe you do it. But he's not our only, or in my opinion, best, trade asset.

 

That list shrinks pretty quickly when you consider Holland isn't likely to trade significant roster players if he's trying to make a Cup run (Nyquist, Tatar), role players that Babs really likes (Helm, Abby), no-trade clauses (Weiss), or centers (there's a reason we just drafted 5 of them). 

 

Probably your tradeable assets are limited to throwaway guys, defensive prospects, and Jurco/Mantha/Pulkkinen.  Of those three, Pulkkinen isn't the only one with a unique skill set.  Mantha is perhaps MORE unique given his size, speed, and scoring ability.  And as I've said already, given that we've already got Nyquist and Tatar (and no big bodied guys who can score) in Detroit, I don't think it's that unrealistic to think Holland might be ok with moving Pulkkinen. 

 

I don't think anybody is saying he should actively be shopped.  Or at least I'm not.  But given that he's got value, other guys are ahead of him in the depth chart, and other guys are more proven, I don't think he's completely off the table. 

 

Or Holland could trade nobody.  Or he could trade Jurco, one of the defensive prospects, or Smith.  Pulkkinen isn't the only tradeable asset.  But it's probably not as big a list as you've made it out to be. 


In Topic: Franzen on IR

23 January 2015 - 04:24 PM

According to Rotoworld, he still suffering headaches.

 

The speculation regarding a mental health issue is likely due to my saying there is evidence that such issues can make PCS worse and/or more likely. I don't think anyone's trying to say he's sitting out because he's got anxiety. 

 

My mistake, man. I was responding to the notion that some have that he is lazy and sucks. I don't think so, and I know many also do not. Your summary makes sense in the immediate sense. I wasn't intending to accuse him of sitting out because of emotional or mental issues. I was addressing his streakiness that some consider laziness. I should have been more specific.

 

My mistake as well.  Your comments came on the heels of speculation that Franzen was deliberately taking extra time to recuperate from injury, despite not needing it.  I thought you were adding speculation on his mental health to support that.  Nevertheless, I stand behind my two earlier statements.  We know why Franzen is out of the lineup, and we know that he's not having a noticeably different year (in terms of production) than previous efforts.  So if he is still suffering from anxiety, it doesn't seem to be affecting his ppg too much. 


In Topic: Franzen on IR

23 January 2015 - 02:49 PM

I think it's splitting hairs by whether you call it a mental health issue or an "emotional issue"  But if a guy says that thoughts of trying NOT scoring a goal have crossed through his mind while playing, it's something that can't be totally ignored.  I'm definitely not a Franzen basher, but at times, he has literally looked like a guy who is afraid to be out there.  I don't think it's any more of a character assassination than it is to speculate about a player with a history of a physical injury who has been struggling on the ice might be having a recurrence of the injury.

 

There are all sorts of mental health issues, only some of which deal with emotions.  That's the difference.  So no, it's not splitting hairs. 

 

Otherwise, I agree that it's perfectly reasonable to wonder why a guy's having a down year IF he is indeed having one.  However, in this case I think his character is being assassinated based on two things...A) We already know why he's out of the lineup.  He's got a neck injury (whiplash) which has been diagnosed.  B)  He's not having a down year.  22 pts. in 33 games puts him on pretty much the exact same scoring pace as he's produced at for the whole of his career.  There's nothing to suggest that his game is suffering, and if it were, there's nothing to suggest it's anything other than the injury sustained during the hit to the head. 

 

He's injured.  He's not a malingerer, and if he has had (most aren't permanent) mental health issues, there's no reason to believe they're what's keeping him out of the lineup or causing a down year (which he isn't).