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#2609738 Slava Fetisov: Giant Hypocrite.

Posted by Buppy on Today, 03:02 PM

Even though I know rationally that the Soviet Union was one of the most powerful and influential military and political super powers in the history of the world, having grown up at the end of the Cold War it's very hard to think of anything regarding Russia or Socialism/Communism as anything other than a Yakov Smirnoff punchline.




#2609708 Slava Fetisov: Giant Hypocrite.

Posted by Mckinley25 on Today, 01:06 PM

The obnoxious thing about it is that it won't make Russian professional hockey more viable. It won't do anything he's hoping it will do.  It will just make Russian hockey crappy because nobody who's playing it will give a damn.  And anybody who gives a damn will turn their efforts toward activities that aren't subject to repression. 
 
How do I know?  Because it already happened with Russian sports.  And industry.  And art.  And everything else.  Forcing people to do something stifles motivation, creativity, passion, hard work, and effort.  It NEVER increases them.  Ask Slava, it's exactly how he felt in 1989.


Though with art and creativity, some of the best stuff was the result of oppression. Just take a look at the films from Eastern Europe that were banned in the 50's, 60's and 70's, the most brilliant art ever committed to celluloid. It's a terrible reason to oppress, obviously and I'm disappointed in Fetisov. It's going to be a monumental task to create a culture shift in Russia, the roots are so deep.

If you're going to ban guys from coming to the NHL, what are you going to do when they defect?  Or refuse to play for the national team?  Are you going to have travel bans?  Are you going to beat them?  Are you going to threaten their families? 
 


If they could get away with it they would, that ideology is only a short stroll from the one Fetisov is supporting.


#2609680 It's Official: Babcock to coach Maple Leafs

Posted by haroldsnepsts on Today, 11:37 AM

The Leafs offered him $50,000,000 --and-- Red Wings offered him $20,000,000.

 

If I hear another thing about Shanahan's "persuasiveness" or ability to sign the "big whale" - I'm going to absolutely... do nothing different because this is the exact same thing I hear everyday in the ridiculous market.

 

It sounds like term was a big deal too.  Holland offered him 5 years, which honestly is a lot for a coach who's already been there 10 years.  I don't fault Kenny for not offering longer at all and have to wonder if even that was a bit long. 

 

But Babcock is 52.  He just signed a contract that will guarantee his employment until he's 60 years old and for much better money.   He faces a massive challenge in Toronto but it sounds like that's what he wanted. 

 

Honestly this feels kind of like when Shanny moved on.  The team could still use him but mostly likely will be fine without him and it will hopefully help trigger a new era for the Red Wings.  




#2609673 Slava Fetisov: Giant Hypocrite.

Posted by GMRwings1983 on Today, 11:26 AM

The obnoxious thing about it is that it won't make Russian professional hockey more viable. It won't do anything he's hoping it will do.  It will just make Russian hockey crappy because nobody who's playing it will give a damn.  And anybody who gives a damn will turn their efforts toward activities that aren't subject to repression. 

 

How do I know?  Because it already happened with Russian sports.  And industry.  And art.  And everything else.  Forcing people to do something stifles motivation, creativity, passion, hard work, and effort.  It NEVER increases them.  Ask Slava, it's exactly how he felt in 1989.

 

Haven't you ever read "We" or "Brave New World"?  

 

 

If I have to choose between free will and happiness, I choose happiness.  I want to be mind controlled to be happy. I want to be plugged back into The Matrix, baby!    

 

JK.  Successful mind control like in those novels is not yet viable.  We still have a long way to go.  


 

Senator.  But in Putin's Russia being the elected representative of the public is largely a ceremonial position.  You're not really expected (or allowed) to do much. 

 

Whereas here, people in DC actually get stuff done, right?   :dozing:




#2609667 Slava Fetisov: Giant Hypocrite.

Posted by number9 on Today, 11:17 AM

The obnoxious thing about it is that it won't make Russian professional hockey more viable. It won't do anything he's hoping it will do.  It will just make Russian hockey crappy because nobody who's playing it will give a damn.  And anybody who gives a damn will turn their efforts toward activities that aren't subject to repression. 

 

How do I know?  Because it already happened with Russian sports.  And industry.  And art.  And everything else.  Forcing people to do something stifles motivation, creativity, passion, hard work, and effort.  It NEVER increases them.  Ask Slava, it's exactly how he felt in 1989.

 

On the contrary, most Russians regard the soviet era as the golden age of Russia. You only regard the period as stifling because you have been blinded by decadent western imperialism.

 

What's Slava's job in Russia again?




#2609664 Coaching Search Thread a.k.a. the Jeff Blashill Thread

Posted by number9 on Today, 11:09 AM

...and now those great prospects are and will soon be on HIS NHL team.  Plus he will still be spoon fed great players by the best organization in pro sports.

 

 

Thankfully he's still got that guy feeding him.  Maybe he'll add a new entree to the menu this offseason?

 

man.  now i'm hungry.

 

With such great players, why do we even need a coach? A monkey could coach team of Nyquists and Pulkinens at the AHL level

 

 

Like Babs just said today. As a coach, you still need great players and great leadership to win. A great coach will have his team playing at their potential or above all year long. Blash to this point has done that. 

 

Or, ya know, they're just really good players playing at their potential




#2609659 Slava Fetisov: Giant Hypocrite.

Posted by Buppy on Today, 10:59 AM

To be fair, Fetisov was 31 when he came over. Kids these days need a little oppression, builds character. :)




#2609654 Dylan Larkin turning pro... will play for GR immediately

Posted by HockeytownRules19 on Today, 10:53 AM

Mrs. Larkin.. Hello lol




#2609652 Coaching Search Thread a.k.a. the Jeff Blashill Thread

Posted by number9 on Today, 10:51 AM

Blashill has never coached in the NHL before and had success in the AHL because he was spoon fed great prospects by Holland


#2609638 Coaching Search Thread a.k.a. the Jeff Blashill Thread

Posted by gcom007 on Today, 10:08 AM

This. x1,000,000,000. 

 

I asked earlier in this thread, "How did Blash use Weiss in his conditioning stints with GR?"

I wonder solely because, maybe Weiss gets a chance under Blash the way he didn't with Babcock...

I mean, the guy did have some bright spots, some glimpses of his former self, and they were quickly buried*

 

*Maybe deservedly. I don't really remember exactly how it all went down, but I have hopes for the guy. 

I hope he gets another chance and I hope he can show he's still a capable second line center. 

I'm not saying HE IS.  I'm saying I hope he gets another chance at it and somehow pulls it off.

 

I tend to hope he might get a chance and find a place here still as well, but I wouldn't be shocked if they ship him out this summer if at all possible. As I think I said before, if he was benched as long as he was, as often as he was, and in the playoffs, clearly Babcock wasn't the only one in the organization who had lost faith in him. Babcock didn't make decisions by himself, and wasn't it said that Holland was trying to move him at the deadline? I think if Holland has the opportunity to move him this summer, he will. Whether he has anything left in him at this point remains to be seen, but it's hard to imagine the Wings taking that gamble again next year if they can find a way to not have to.


I am very excited to see what Blashill can do with this team. But what I am most excited about is there are no guarantees where players will line up on the roster... Will Ericsson remain on the top pair? Will Smith get a look on the power-play? Will Weiss have a chance at the 2nd line center spot? Will Jurco be in the top 6(9)? Will Pulkkinen be utilized better in the offensive zone (left side faceoff circle), Will Abdelkader / Helm remain in the top 6 (not necessarily saying they shouldn't...)? Will Ferraro / Callahan get a look on the 4th line? A lot of question marks... Going to be an exciting training camp. Can't wait!!!

 

This, but I really, really, really hope Holland does something on defense this summer so the idea of E on the top pairing isn't even a possibility. We're not going to land a top guy, but I have to hope we can land someone better than E...

 

And as much as I don't like E, I'd be more tolerant of him if he were in a different role on this team.

 

Smith is definitely going to get a look on the power play. He's had issues, sure, but he's still young. No way his time will run out here before he gets more opportunities.




#2609330 Things you would like to see for 2015-16 Season

Posted by number9 on Yesterday, 10:21 AM

 
It's destined to happen.  It's got to happen.  Bring Jimmy Home BABY!


We've missed the wiz train so many times now I'm starting to think it'll never happen. Seems like he's perpetually available though, at no fault of his own. Not counting this Duck stint.


#2609606 It's Official: Babcock to coach Maple Leafs

Posted by number9 on Today, 07:53 AM

 
I'm not so sure about that. Babs stated in his presser that his family as a whole start into a whole new period of life, if he stayed in Detroit or not. I think his main reason indeed was the challenge and what he can archive there.
In Detroit, even if he won two consecutive cups, there were others who have been there. Scotty Bowman have started build these Red Wings, he was merely jumping on board, developing what others have started. He now has the chance to become Torontos Bowman, even more than that. Heck, the last time the Maple Leafs won the cup, my parents were still teenagers and there was only a small hope that the USA might reach the moon till the end of the decade. If he brings it to Toronto he is an immortal legend instead of just the maybe greatest coach between 2000 and 2020.Sure, the money helps, but I don't flatter myself or Red Wings that it is money. It's something greater that we can't offer and I can don't blame him for taking this opportunity. Good luck Babs, you'll need it.


I don't disagree


#2609505 It's Official: Babcock to coach Maple Leafs

Posted by HockeytownRules19 on Yesterday, 04:24 PM

Brad Galli @BradGalli  ·  14m 14 minutes ago

Red Wings say Mike Babcock is coming back to speak with Detroit media tomorrow morning.

 

Very classy IMO to come back and take questions




#2609268 Things you would like to see for 2015-16 Season

Posted by number9 on 20 May 2015 - 11:03 PM

And in this corner... skating out of Canton Michigan... former captain of the once Plymouth Whalers... JAMES "THE WIZ" "WHITE LIGHTNING" WISSSSSSSSSSNIEWWWWWWWWWSKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII




#2609205 It's Official: Babcock to coach Maple Leafs

Posted by FireCaptain on 20 May 2015 - 07:05 PM

Damn you, Manny Legace! Damn you all to hell!