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#2536750 2014 Preseason Thread

Posted by kipwinger on Today, 03:26 PM

I wanted to put this in its own thread but decided to post here instead.  I just wanted to comment on how awesome it is that the organization has fully embraced social media, and particularly the "all-access" philosophy they seem to have developed.  Between the Red Wings and Griffins Youtube channels I've watched behind the scenes videos of last year's playoffs, development camp, the prospect tournament, and now main camp, along with individual profiles of many of the up and coming guys as well as Wings regulars.  In each case the footage was more insightful and better made than the hyper-dramatic, scripted, crap that we were fed on 24/7 last year.  No B.S., all hockey.  Exactly what I want. 


Kudos to the organization for giving fans an absolutely massive amount of media to help get them through the long offseason. 

#2536746 9/22/14 7:00 PM. Preseason GDT - DET @ PIT

Posted by kipwinger on Today, 02:44 PM


Add in the fact that he's also a righty, and even though Marchenko is too, he's not coming off a high ankle sprain. 


Agreed.  Marchenko is a righty, but he's not going to be expected to score so the side he shoots from matters a little less.  And while he and Quellet are probably better all around (right now) than Sproul, they got to compete with each other plus Quincey, Dekeyser, Ericsson, and Lashoff for a spot.  Sproul just has to be better than Kindl, or Smith, and he's got all the best attributes of both.  He's as big as Kindl, as fast as Smith, a better shot than both and his only noticeably shortcoming is one that the two of them share as well.  Plus, as you mentioned...he's a righty.


Edit:  Lol.  Just saw this.  Check out Fischer at 2:09..."We bring him to development camp...he puts on some weight...he is a man now". 


#2536604 Training Camp Thread

Posted by kipwinger on 19 September 2014 - 12:22 PM

His statement is that there approach is now different. Of course there isn't any examples - it's a future proclamation.


For the second time, I realize that.  Which is precisely why I'd need for him to prove it, this year, in training camp.  Because it hasn't ever been true before.  Even in the past, when the rule was "tie goes to the veteran", the ostensible rule was that in situations NOT TIED, the best player would play.  But that wasn't the case either.  So for all of posterity, I get it.  Babs says the best player will play.  Prove it. 

#2536585 Training Camp Thread

Posted by kipwinger on 19 September 2014 - 10:45 AM

Isn't that what Babcock is saying though? Up until now he's given the jobs to the veterans, this training camp he's giving it to the best player. This being the first season with this philosophy, he's hardly had a chance to go back on it.


I think we all agree that's what he's saying.  Our point is that "actions speak louder than words".  I'll believe it when I see it.


Additionally, it's a little bit of double speak by Babs anyway.  In years past he's said "tie goes to the veteran".  But there was no tie when they kept Nyquist down a year ago.  He was legitimately BETTER than any number of forwards on our team.  Likewise Jurco is currently BETTER than any number of forwards.  So even if Babs hadn't "changed philosophy", those guys should still have been (or be) in the lineup because they're not tied with guys...they're already better. 

#2536579 Regner: Next year could be Babcock's last

Posted by kipwinger on 19 September 2014 - 10:05 AM


This story will be over come october, Babs already said he will not be talking about it by then and just go to the next question. I'm very sure Holland will do the exact same thing.


Which will only lead to more media speculation, since nothing was finalized.  Which was my point. 

#2536570 Regner: Next year could be Babcock's last

Posted by kipwinger on 19 September 2014 - 09:13 AM

I'm already sooooooo sick of this story.  Until he signs a contract this is going to be one long, speculative, pain in the ass.  Not because of Holland.  Not because of Babcock.  Because of media goobers who see the value of rabble rousing. 


Prepare yourselves LGW, this will get worse before it gets better.

#2536566 Flames adding Truculence...Yonkman, Gillies PTO

Posted by kipwinger on 19 September 2014 - 08:23 AM

Everytime I come to LGW and first glance at this thread's title my brain registers "Flaming Truculence" instead of "Flames Add Truculence". 


Which is funny...because I'm juvenile. 

#2536522 Selanne would still play if Boudreau wasn't Ducks coach

Posted by kipwinger on 18 September 2014 - 02:22 PM

Well that's a good way to throw out all the good will you'd built up over a career.  I've got no love for Boudreau, he's a clown, but Selanne is apparently a petulant child in a grown man's body.  Keep in mind Selanne had 9 goals and 18 points in 64 games last season.  Lol. 

#2536420 Mantha's Injury

Posted by kipwinger on 17 September 2014 - 11:21 AM

Everyone's reporting it's just precautionary.  I don't think it's a big deal. 

#2536210 2014 Prospects Tournament and Training Camp (Sept. 12-23)

Posted by kipwinger on 14 September 2014 - 10:15 PM

Where's BottleofSmoke?  Just found this little nuggest barried in Malik's most recent drivel...


#Europe: Melén 1+0, +1 & 1 SOG in a 2-1 loss. http://stats.swehockey.se/Game/Reports/208695  #RedWings


11:39 AM - 13 Sep 2014


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#2536143 2014 Preseason Thread

Posted by kipwinger on 13 September 2014 - 12:47 PM

Happy to see Jordin Tootoo got invited to the Devils camp.  Despite never really fitting in here, he played the good soldier and never complained about his plight.  He's a class act all the way and I hope he catches on in New Jersey. 

#2536142 Who should get cut/traded by game 1 of the season?

Posted by kipwinger on 13 September 2014 - 12:38 PM

I would love to see Callahan steal Miller's spot. More grit and possibly also better scoring touch.


I don't know that I'd want him to take Miller's spot per se, but I would definitely like him to beat out one of Ferraro, Andersson, Glendening, or Cleary.  That would be ideal.  I just think Miller has more value than those guys, so I'd rather have him on the roster and have the option to use him. 

#2536055 A Perfect fit for the Bruins...Ville Leino?

Posted by kipwinger on 12 September 2014 - 10:48 AM

What the hell is wrong with a Chiarelli? First trading Seguin, now not re-signing Thornton and now Leino? The guy is the exact up opposite of a Bruin! Yeah they can send him down but I'll highly doubt he makes the team out of pto If he's smart he tries to replace Thornton but I guess he is confident with a softer Bruins team but only till the leafs are coming to town. Save for Chara nobody can take on Orr or Mclaren not even Lucic I expect some cheap shots against Bergeron, Krug and Krejci. This may very well be the softest Bruins edition since years I would be pissed if I were a Bruins fan


Frank, you can't possibly think that Chiarelli should make personnel moves based on the fear of a non playoff team "coming to town".  Even without Thornton the Bruins are miles tougher than every other team in the league.  I think they'll be ok during the next brawl filled circus that they seem to have once or twice a season. 

#2536050 A Perfect fit for the Bruins...Ville Leino?

Posted by kipwinger on 12 September 2014 - 09:53 AM

He can still play as a third line scorer. At 1M or even 800K, what do they have to lose? Can he REALLY be worse than Cleary at 1.5?


Theres a big difference between playing on a PHI team as opposed to BUF, which has one of the worst teams in recent memory. On top of that, maybe the pressure of making too much money got to him.


I know personally, I play hockey better when im surrounded by good line mates. 


Well apart from the fact that he's absolutely the antithesis of "Bruin Strong", he also hasn't scored a goal since 2012.  He only had 12 assists and zero goals in 58 games last year.  So yes, I'd say he's a worse option than Cleary if you want goals to be scored.  A year ago Cleary had more goals than good knees.  What's Leino's excuse?

#2535969 Dekeyser signed. 2 yrs $2.187 million AAV

Posted by kipwinger on 11 September 2014 - 12:46 PM


Quincey I can almost live with as another desperation move by Holland when he didn't land the UFAs.  Q can play decent for long stretches and probably gets more flack overall than he deserves, though that's in great part due to the games where it looks like he forgot how to play hockey. 


I just can't believe Kindl is still on this team making $2.4 million for the next three seasons.  It's time to cut bait.  I've been wrong a lot more than I've been right, but one of the things I definitely was right about was how Kindl vs. Ericsson shook out. 


Kindl should no longer be in this lineup at that price.  They could either bring up a kid or sign a seasoned vet to play the 5/6 spot with Lashoff and free up some cap space to sign Dekeyser and Smith next year, and Lashoff the year after if he develops into a decent stay at home Dman.  


Problem is, you're going to pay Kindl one way or another and waiving him only gets you minimal cap relief.  It's not a situation like Samuelsson where you waive him and only have to pay for the remainder of the season.  In Kindl's case you'd be paying for 3 more years. 


Best case scenario you start him on the third pair, and second PP.  Hopefully he can produce (initially) at the pace he did a couple years ago and he'll have some trade value.  Right now he's got no trade value and he's too expensive to demote.