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#2625826 Leafs acquire Grabner

Posted by kipwinger on 17 September 2015 - 09:11 PM

 

William Nylander won't see the NHL until he's 24. The ole Gus Nyquist treatment.

 

William Nylander shouldn't see the NHL until after he's gone through puberty. 




#2625784 Leafs acquire Grabner

Posted by kipwinger on 17 September 2015 - 03:42 PM

This is to dump contracts so that they can sign all their PTOs. Boyes, Glencross, Setoguchi

Babs literally has a team of misfit toys/spare parts

 

But they're all veterans.  And ties go to the veteran. 




#2625717 Wings Release Training Camp Roster

Posted by kipwinger on 17 September 2015 - 09:32 AM

I think the big sticking point with Smith is that many folks see a lot of potential in the kid.  Which is fine.  He did produce at lower levels.  He was a first round pick.  He does seem to have the natural physical gifts.  But at least for me (and a few others), he needs to show me something with all that potential before I'm going to agree that the guy is "above average" or whatever. 

 

I don't expect him to even be all that good defensively (Babs did, and that was a mistake), but he needs to find a way to consistently produce offense.  So far he hasn't.  And while I'd agree that he hasn't necessarily been used properly, I think the same thing is true for Kindl and he's found ways to get on the board when Smith hasn't. 

 

Regardless of his potential, or his usage, this really is a make or break year for Smith.  He'll get has chance to lock down a spot (as he should) but I don't imagine the Wings will continue to pay him 2 million bucks to play mediocre defense and not score points.  Marchenko can do that for less money.  So Smith better be ready to show what he's got this season. 




#2625712 Wings Release Training Camp Roster

Posted by kipwinger on 17 September 2015 - 09:19 AM

Again, Kronwall is one of the better PP quarterbacks in the entire league.  I get your point about his hard minutes, but I'd be very reluctant to take him off the PP.  He might be the very most important part of it afterall. 




#2625634 Red Wings sign D Mike Green (3-years, $18-million)

Posted by kipwinger on 16 September 2015 - 12:39 PM

Going back to Nash might've been the worst case scenario since he dropped down the depth chart in a hurry, and it might've hurt him financially since his time, and quality of play at the tail end of the regular season, and playoffs with the Preds was rather ordinary when compared to his #'s while on that sinking ship known as the Toronto Maple Leafs.

 

I'll be paying more attention to the Sabres this season.

 

Nashville was just a bad fit for him.  When Trotz was the coach, he fit right in, because they played a different game.  Laviolette's system isn't great for Franson because speed is so important. 

 

It's the same reason why I think Franson would have been a better choice for Detroit if we'd kept Babcock.  Green would have been a disaster under Babs for the same reason that Trotz didn't use him much.  The skills he brings to the table aren't valued in a system like that.  This is also the same reason why Detroit wanted Phaneuf while Babs was here, and lost interest when Babs left (And why TO suddenly wanted to keep him when Babs was hired there). 

 

Franson, and Poile, were familiar with one another and that's why he want to Nash.  But the presence of Laviolette, instead of Trotz, made it doomed from the start. 




#2625617 Red Wings sign D Mike Green (3-years, $18-million)

Posted by kipwinger on 16 September 2015 - 11:12 AM

I've always shied away from the Franson comparisons because for whatever reason people feel the need to denigrate one player, if they like another.  But I don't think he's comparable to Quincey. 

 

Cody Franson is a good player.  He's a legit top four defenseman on about any team in the league.  That said, there are things he's good at, and things he isn't.  When people say he's "physical" they seem to be talking about his body checking ability, which is true.  But he's not particularly great on the boards, he doesn't block shots, he doesn't clear creases.  He was considerably less physical than Phaneuf while in TO. 

 

Offensively, he doesn't have the handles that a guy like Green has, nor does he have the speed or the wrist shot.  But he's got a really good slap shot/one timer, and he's an excellent passer with very good vision. 

 

Franson will score you some points, contribute on the powerplay, and occasionally lay a guy out in the open ice.  But because his offense is limited to his slapper, and because he can't skate well, he's not going to be a strong possession guy. 

 

It doesn't make him a bad player, and he's certainly no Kyle Quincey (whom I love, but who is not comparable).  I think the guy he most reminds me of is Sami Salo (minus all the injuries).  But that's just my opinion. 




#2625604 Wings Release Training Camp Roster

Posted by kipwinger on 16 September 2015 - 09:20 AM

If Rechlicz wins us the Cup (as would obviously be the case) then I'd like Ken Holland to trade him to the Detroit Tigers.  Because as much as the Wings are my favorite team, I REALLY want to see a World Series Champion in Detroit. 




#2625603 Red Wings sign D Mike Green (3-years, $18-million)

Posted by kipwinger on 16 September 2015 - 08:53 AM

Green's most important "defensive" attribute is his ability to gain control of the puck, and lead the breakout, either by skating the puck out of the zone or making an excellent first pass.  People who haven't watched Washington much don't realize how physical Mike Green is.  He is very good as separating opposition players from the puck.  And when he does, it's going the other way in a hurry. 

 

I think one of the key differences between Blashill and Babcock centers around this exact concept.  Babs did not let any of his defensemen (other than Kronwall on occasion) skate with the puck.  Their job was to gain possession, and look to dump the puck off to a forward.  This does a couple of things.  A) Makes the team easier to defend because you know where the puck is going, B) Makes the defensemen more vulnerable to the forecheck, C) Means that when your d-men turn the puck over, it will probably be in your zone, and D) Curtails the effectiveness of your zone entries. 

 

Obviously it remains to be seen how Blash will handle D to O transitions.  But I'm optimistic.  Letting your d-men skate with the puck should play into Green's skillset, but also improve Smith and Kindl's games (as they're both weak against the forecheck, but really good skaters). 




#2625549 Red Wings sign D Mike Green (3-years, $18-million)

Posted by kipwinger on 15 September 2015 - 03:19 PM

Saying "he's not defensively responsible" is most frequently just a vague way for most people to justify their own personal dislike for a player.  The difference in defensively ability between guys like Keith, Subban, and Karlsson is miniscule. 

 

Nobody (whose job security involves winning hockey games) would put those guys on the ice as often as they do, and give them as much money as they do, if they only contribute on offense.  A 50-60 point, offensive, forward doesn't make as much money as P.K. Subban or Erik Karlsson .  They don't play as much either.  Yet their detractors all seem to suggest that a 50-60 point forward is all they are.  It's bogus. 




#2625545 Red Wings sign D Mike Green (3-years, $18-million)

Posted by kipwinger on 15 September 2015 - 02:41 PM

Who was that one offensive defenseman who kept the puck out of his own zone by essentially being another foward on the ice?  You know, the one who was always jumping into the play and carrying the puck deep into the o-zone.  I can't remember his name, but I swear he was pretty good.  I mean, obviously not as good as a stay at home guy...of course.  

 

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#2625466 Red Wings sign D Mike Green (3-years, $18-million)

Posted by kipwinger on 14 September 2015 - 05:50 PM

Stay at home defense is overrated.  I'd rather have guys who can get to loose pucks, get them up the ice, and make plays in the neutral and offensive zones.  It's better to have guys that can do something effective with the puck, than guys who clear the crease, block shots, etc. because for them to do what they're good at, you've got to be hemmed into your own zone. 

 

I've posted this before.  It's Daryl Sutter on why playing defense is overrated.  It pretty much sums up how I feel about this topic.

 

http://www.sportingn...n-sidney-crosby

 

Here are a few more good articles on the subject:

http://www.si.com/nh...valuable-in-NHL

http://www.cbssports...ring-defenseman

http://www.lighthous...type-defenseman




#2625425 Red Wings sign D Mike Green (3-years, $18-million)

Posted by kipwinger on 14 September 2015 - 10:21 AM

Did you just favorably compare Darren McCarty to Mario Lemieux, Pavel Datsyuk, Doug Gilmour, and Wendell Clark? 




#2625405 Red Wings sign D Mike Green (3-years, $18-million)

Posted by kipwinger on 14 September 2015 - 08:41 AM

He was a beloved part of a golden age team. He was here 10 years straight (plus parts of 2 in the comeback attempt) Maltby wasn't here much longer with 14 years. He has a Cancer foundation that raises money for research and is active in the community. He seems like a pretty good guy that just let his demons get the better of him.

 

I haven't read his book and don't know too much of his story, but there's many reasons why people turn to drugs. In hockey we've had a number of stories of enforcers dealing with depression that should guide most people against simplistically damning McCarty as you seem to want to. Maybe he was dealing something like Rick Rypien was. Maybe his brain looks like swiss cheese like Proberts did in the autopsy. I do know that McCarty's father died of cancer in 1995 (at age 49). Possibly that was a trigger to lead him down a dark path. Drugs are often a symptom of something else. Try a little empathy. 

 

You can pity a substance abuser without any particular need to glorify them, or make excuses for them, in the process. 

 

There may be a number of factors that contribute to his behavior.  There usually are.  But that doesn't excuse it.  And I'm not going to glorify McCarty when players like Draper, Maltby, Osgood, Kocur, Chelios, etc. contributed just as much on the ice, and represented themselves, the team, and the city twice as well off of it, without all the baggage. 

 

If Mike Green shouldn't wear 25, then I'd expect 18, 30, 33, 24, and 26 to be taken out of circulation as well.  Which is completely silly.  McCarty is a guy with a few high points, and a lot of "might have beens" in his career.  Nobody can take that from him.  But IMO, that's not worthy of the respect and admiration that gets heaped on him.  Pity maybe, but not respect and admiration.  That's reserved for the guys who continue to earn it. 




#2625344 Red Wings sign D Mike Green (3-years, $18-million)

Posted by kipwinger on 13 September 2015 - 06:39 PM

People love McCarty and hate fedorov. Unreal.


#2625235 Matt Wuest Prospect Tournament Thread

Posted by kipwinger on 11 September 2015 - 03:13 PM

That second line is going to be sick. 

 

Hopefully Larkin and Nastasiuk will keep Mantha honest with their work ethic and pace.