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#2529572 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by kipwinger on 02 July 2014 - 05:06 PM

Frankly I don't care what's gone before anymore. The point is, we're starting a new season, with a roster that is good enough IMO to make the playoffs. Once you get in, who the hell knows what might happen. 

 

If recent history is any indication we'll get butchered by a better team in rounds one or two.  That's not going to change with a bad defense, an average goalie, and a bunch of kids who are improving just as fast as our core players are declining. 

 

And it's most definitely not going to change if Ken Holland, and his apologists, have an endless list of excuses for not making the team better. 

 

Every other team in the league has young talent playing for it too.  If our strategy is to "just let the kids develop" without doing anything else, how are we any better off than any other team who's letting their young players improve as well?  You think Boston and Pittsburgh don't have young guys who are getting better too?




#2529559 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by kipwinger on 02 July 2014 - 04:25 PM

I'm so tired of this, "if we weren't injured" argument.  Datsyuk and Zetterberg weren't injured when we lost in the first round to San Jose in 2010.  They weren't injured when we lost in the second round to San Jose in 2011.  They weren't injured when we got embarrassed by Nashville in 2012.  They weren't injured when we blew a 3 games to 1 lead against Chicago a year ago.  And they very likely weren't the only people playing injured in this year's mauling by Boston. 

 

Another thing, people play hurt in the playoffs all the time.  Bergeron was nearly dead a year ago and Boston had no trouble making it to the finals.  Anybody that thinks a healthy Pavel or Hank change the outcome of our series isn't looking at recent history, and isn't taking into account the fact that injuries don't only happen to Detroit. 

 

We lose because our "elite" players aren't good enough anymore.  Our up and comers aren't good enough yet.  And everybody else is just average. 




#2529541 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by kipwinger on 02 July 2014 - 03:33 PM

Or else we'll never get Rodrigenstizzlean Kompfeerzuzabelt. Kid's a rocket!

 

I know him!  It's Ziggerwaggelitus and Figglywigbandersnatch's son.  What a lovely family.  I have to remember to send them a Christmas card this year. 




#2529421 Well...at least we're not Philadelphia. Giroux Arrested.

Posted by kipwinger on 02 July 2014 - 11:26 AM

 

Yeah? At least he's willing to take risks and make moves. Holland is the real clown show.

 

I think you're dealing with two extremes.  Holland won't make a move to save his life, and Holmgren makes ill advised moves constantly.  I'd imagine the middle ground between the two should be the target. 

 

Anyway, back on topic...everybody point and laugh at Claude Giroux.  He's a real dummy. 




#2529411 Quincey re-signed by DET. 2 yr s $4.25 mill AAV

Posted by kipwinger on 02 July 2014 - 11:04 AM

Kudos to Quincey's agent by the way.  Seriously.  How he managed to get his client a raise is beyond me. 

 

You know who I feel bad for?  Kyle Quincey.  I know he's not that good, and I know that he should be playing for someone else, and I know that he's now getting drastically overpaid.  But you can't blame him for signing the contract.  He just wants to play hockey.  But because Holland was such a massive failure yesterday, Quincey is back, and now any little mistake he makes will be magnified 2000% because people are (justifiably) pissed off. 

 

Final thought:  How funny is it that the story prior to free agency was "The Wings would like to re-sign Kyle Quincey but it's believed he'll seek a raise on the open market".  The irony is killing me. 




#2529395 Well...at least we're not Philadelphia. Giroux Arrested.

Posted by kipwinger on 02 July 2014 - 10:48 AM

Words can't describe how much I needed this today.  Shout out to the universe for hooking a guy up in a time of need. 

 

http://www.cbssports...ested-in-ottawa

 

"Although few details were immediately available, a source said Giroux was arrested for repeatedly grabbing the buttocks of a male police officer. Alcohol is believed to have been involved.

The incident occurred at a bar in the Byward Market the source said.

Ottawa Police have refused any comment on the incident. Police said they cannot comment unless charges are laid, but several sources did confirm to the Sun Giroux spent the night in jail."




#2529388 Wings to have face to face with Matt Niskanen

Posted by kipwinger on 02 July 2014 - 10:34 AM

What happened to Niskanen's going to make "Eleventy Billion dollars and get paid like a first pair defenseman"?  Some predicted upward of 7 million.  Anybody wanna raise their hand and call a mulligan on that one?


KH:  "Hey Matt, you should sign with us".

MN:  "Why would I do that?  You're a worse team than the one I'm leaving and you've done nothing to improve."

KH:  "Oh by the way, we're going to need you to sign for less than you'd make elsewhere".

MN:  Lol. 

 

Holy s***.  I just realized I can see the future lol.  Although, to be accurate it wasn't just Niskanen turning down because our GM is cheap and complacent. 




#2529384 TANK IT! 2014-2015 Season

Posted by kipwinger on 02 July 2014 - 10:26 AM

Going a little far here.  I'm as irritated as the next guy, and probably more than most.  But rather than "tank it" how about we just give open spots to deserving kids and see what they can do?  Seemed to work out well last year.  I don't know about anybody else but I'd love to add a 6'4 200+ lb Mantha, and a 6'4 200+ lb Sproul to our lineup.  As long as he doesn't trade anything valuable away and/or sign some washed up old guy (Alfie) we could very well see

 

Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Mantha

Franzen-Weiss-Nyquist

Jurco-Sheahan-Tatar

Abby-Helm-Miller

 

Kronwall-Ericsson

Smith-Dekeyser

Quincey-Sproul

 

Probably won't compete for a Cup, maybe won't make the playoffs even.  But maybe, just maybe, we get a little bigger, a little faster, a little bit more hungry, and a little harder to play against. 




#2529368 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by kipwinger on 02 July 2014 - 10:00 AM

he may try to package kindl Lashoff and possibly tats for someone big I keep thinking he may try for yandle but his going to giv up alot

 

At least Yandle is worth it.  He plays close to 82 games every year and scores 50 pts like clockwork.  I'm afraid we're going go lose a bunch of assets and the return will be some project defenseman like Myers.  God forbid Holland ever go for a sure thing. 




#2529364 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by kipwinger on 02 July 2014 - 09:49 AM

And this, in a nutshell, is the problem. 

 

"We made pitches to a number of defensemen," general manager Ken Holland said. "For a variety of reasons, they opted to go elsewhere. I don't know why they're not coming here."

 

No Ken.  They opted to go elsewhere for one reason.  Detroit is not realistically competing for a Stanley Cup any time soon.  We've barely made the playoffs lately.  A variety of reasons have contributed to that fact.  Largely, that you're a miserly, penny pinching, son of a ***** who is utterly befuddled by the player acquisition part of your job. 

 

He seriously makes it seem like EVERY free agent signed somewhere else entirely by chance.  Pure happenstance kept everyone away Kenny, you betcha. 




#2529338 Quincey re-signed by DET. 2 yr s $4.25 mill AAV

Posted by kipwinger on 02 July 2014 - 08:33 AM

Some thoughts.

1. LOL!

2. I can handle not landing any UFA's. That is always a crap shoot. You can wine and dine those guys, throw lots of years and money at them, and they still may go somewhere else.

3. BUT resigning Qunicey? Terrible.

4. Holland needs to make a major move by August 1 to flip this around.

5. Those expecting us to be better because "we are healthy", please wake up and join the real world. We haven't been healthy in 3 seasons now. Most of the same old and injury prone players are coming back. Man games lost will not change much.

6. The last 3 years have produced worse winning % each year. 11/12 we won 43 games, just over 50%. in 12/13 we won 24-50%, this last season we won 39 just under 50%. That is trending the wrong way.

 

 

We consistently become less and less competitive, and yet, pundits like Malik are blaming the state of Joe Louis Arena.  Unbelievable. 

 

As I've said a thousand times.  Please, Ken Holland, don't do something stupid to make this worse.  You're already a huge embarrassing failure.  Losing Tatar or Jurco in a lopsided panic move is only going to make it worse. 

 

Don't bring anyone else in, don't over think things, don't kick tires or pick up the phone.  Just give the remaining spots to Ryan Sproul and Mantha, and in a couple years (despite your best efforts) we should be respectable again (under head coach Jeff Blashill). 




#2528516 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by kipwinger on 01 July 2014 - 03:34 PM

You of all people...Thought you were more level headed type...I'd expect this coming from LeftWinger  :lol:

 

Naw, I wouldn't turn on Holland.  He's got me as bamboozled as he's got everyone else.  I'll be right here at the trade deadline, and next year's draft, and free agency next summer, waiting patiently and knowing damn well that "this year, this year, is the one when Kenny finally pulls the trigger". 

 

I've been hoodwinked.  I'm a rube.  Gullible.  A born sucker. 

 

But nobody can ever say I don't hold out hope. 




#2528500 Wings sign Kevin Porter to 1-year, 2-way contract

Posted by kipwinger on 01 July 2014 - 03:28 PM

I want to rub this guy's head.  He must be one lucky S.O.B to get signed by Ken Holland as a UFA.  That's twice as rare as a unicorn, at least. 




#2528495 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by kipwinger on 01 July 2014 - 03:25 PM

Has anyone checked to make sure that Ken Holland isn't actually dead?  He might very well be dead...from the shame of not making a trade before the draft...and is still lying on his bathroom floor somewhere in suburban Detroit.  I say "bathroom floor" because he must surely have been looking at himself in the mirror saying "what happened to you?...You used to be so...so...so..." right before his heart exploded. 

 

This would explain why there were no moves today.  The fact that everyone hates hisf****** guts for destroying our team would explain why nobody has bothered to go looking for him. 




#2528489 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by kipwinger on 01 July 2014 - 03:19 PM

Trading a young asset like Jurco or Tatar for Myers is the very definition of a panic move.  I can't believe I have to explain why trading a cheap, up and coming, top six forward for a guy who's making 5.5 million on potential is a bad idea.