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#2527122 Wings to have face to face with Matt Niskanen

Posted by kipwinger on 30 June 2014 - 09:01 AM

I've heard from a non quotable source, which is (very) close to Holland, apparently niskanen really wants to come here and we are very high on his list.

Also we won't get yandle, price is all of nyquist, Tatar, jurco and mantha + first.
Holland is probably going to give him 7 years $42 million. Just a heads up.
Niskanen that is

 

Nobody asks this much in a trade.  Ever.  Either your source is pulling your leg or he made this up.  Edmonton didn't even ask that much for Gretzky.   

 

So, since I have a feeling you're going to get all bent out of shape about my post I'll make some fun of it.  I'll donate money to a charity of your choice if either of the following happens.

 

1.  Keith Yandle gets traded to any team for a package consisting of their top four young forwards, all of whom project as top sixers.  Nevermind the first round pick, we already know that didn't happen.

 

2.  Matt Niskanen signs with Detroit for 7 years, 6 million per. 




#2527119 Ehrhoff or Niskanen

Posted by kipwinger on 30 June 2014 - 08:51 AM

Erhoff would likely get 6M range. It helps our bargaining stance. Erhoff is the safe choice but I really want a right handed defensemen. Erhoff seems like a Kenny type of deal 3-4 years

 

Lol.  LGW is the only place where every free agent is going to get 6 million per year, and the starting point for every trade is Mantha + 1st. 

 

Christian Ehrhoff will not get 6 million dollars.  Not happening. 




#2526978 Ehrhoff or Niskanen

Posted by kipwinger on 29 June 2014 - 03:36 PM

I think you should make this a four or five way poll and add in Dan Boyle, Tom Gilbert, Stephane Robidas, etc.  That might be more illuminating.  As it is, I had to pick between two guys who are better than every other defenseman on our team aside from Kronwall. 




#2526883 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by kipwinger on 29 June 2014 - 12:04 PM

I'm not sure if I'm following the conversation correctly, but it seems like some of you are suggesting that CANADIAN PROFESSIONAL ICE HOCKEY PLAYERS would be averse to living in the cold. 

 

Really?




#2526784 Dylan Larkin - Highest draft pick since 1991

Posted by kipwinger on 29 June 2014 - 01:01 AM

Want to elaborate on that kip? Or link the interview.

Babcock seems to hold Red in high esteem at least

 

Here's the article.  It's part of a larger article about Johnson.  Feel free to dig into it more at your own leisure. 

 

http://frozenroyalty...raft-belatedly/




#2526778 Kesler traded to Anaheim

Posted by kipwinger on 29 June 2014 - 12:56 AM

Well I definitely don't want to make it seem like Holland can't, and hasn't, made mistakes.  We know he does.  Particularly when it comes to player acquisition post 2005 lockout. 

 

But I'd agree with Rick in saying that despite his shortcomings, the draft is one area in which Holland has almost universally excelled. 




#2526770 Kesler traded to Anaheim

Posted by kipwinger on 29 June 2014 - 12:35 AM

If Holland's scouts are responsible for the picks he made as GM, then' he's responsible for the pics that happened when he was the head of scouting under other GMs.  You know, guys like Fedorov, Osgood, Holmstrom, Lidstrom, Konstantinov, Primeau, Kozlov, Sillinger, Lapointe, Knuble, and McCarty.

 

What a bum. 




#2526412 NHL Draft 2014: First Round

Posted by kipwinger on 27 June 2014 - 08:12 PM

On 24/7 they said Brendan was a leafs fan and Reilly was a wings fan

 

Just more proof that we got the wrong Smith.  Typical Holland :nono:




#2526401 NHL Draft 2014: First Round

Posted by kipwinger on 27 June 2014 - 08:07 PM

I think the fact that his favorite team was the Maple Leafs is clear evidence that he's got terrible judgement and probably will be plagued by poor decision making his whole career. 

 

Hmmm...now that I think about it, does anybody know if Brendan Smith's favorite team growing up was the Maple Leafs?  lol. 




#2526383 NHL Draft 2014: First Round

Posted by kipwinger on 27 June 2014 - 08:00 PM

Man, some of these kids look 12 years old lol

 

Well they're closer to 12 than we are, that's for sure.




#2526195 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by kipwinger on 27 June 2014 - 03:15 PM

 

Exactly. It is difficult to learn how to play in this league when the team around you is falling apart and lacks leadership. Look at Edmonton. Loaded with talent, nobody to learn from. Nobody to teach their top players how to play a complete game, etc. 

 

While I don't think Myers is the ideal solution, it isn't a move I'd be unhappy to see. It would make the team better.

 

Depends on the package.  If we lost any of our good young forwards I'd be pissed.  That's a lot to give for a guy with as many check marks against him as Myers has. 

 

Smith, prospects, and picks (on the other hand) I'd be fine with. 


I like Myers better than Niskanen because Myers has more upside and has the potential to be a #1 D on our team for a long time

 

Niskanen I think would be a risk as well, I mean one season inflating his cap value by a lot, he could either turn out like O'Reilly or like Clarkson or Nathan Horton

 

You've obviously not watched a lot of Myers if you think he's got the upside to be a #1.  He's big.  That's it.  He doesn't play defense worth a damn.  He's just got a big shot from the point and stands up to the forecheck well. 




#2526193 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by kipwinger on 27 June 2014 - 03:10 PM

 

I do think a lot of that has to do with the Sabres as a whole really. Myers has the tools, I think a fresh start could work wonders for him. Especially to have a vet like 55 to play with and learn from. 

 

Big risk to take for a guy who's never produced any better than Matt Niskanen, plays half the defense, costs 5.5 million a year, and would require a significant package to acquire (per reports). 

 

Why not just spend a little more (maybe) on the guy who does everything better and keep all your trade assets?




#2526186 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by kipwinger on 27 June 2014 - 03:05 PM

I still say no to Myers but that's just me. I would much rather over pay for Niskanen. Better player, slightly higher cap hit, without giving up the assets...

 

I agree, trading for Myers is a bad idea.  He's ALREADY getting over paid, and you'd have to give assets to get him.  The very thing people worry about with Niskanen is already a reality with Myers.  And even if Niskanen gets over paid (which I don't think he will), you don't lose assets acquiring him. 

 

Myers gets paid (5.5 million) to give you the same offensive potential as Niskanen and none of the defense.  But he's big, and everybody knows that NHL GMs go weak in the knees (and soft in the head) if a player is big; regardless of whether he uses that size for any practical advantage or not.   




#2526171 Kesler traded to Anaheim

Posted by kipwinger on 27 June 2014 - 02:43 PM

Well there goes that.  Seems like a pretty good trade for both sides.  Vancouver was trading within the division (typically requiring a larger return) and Kesler only approved limited teams (typically ending in a smaller return). 

 

He's a good player and I'd have loved to have had him in the Winged Wheel.  Oh well, on to the next one. 




#2526098 Wings to have face to face with Matt Niskanen

Posted by kipwinger on 27 June 2014 - 11:56 AM

 

She needed to keep her yap shut and just be glad she's got a free ride at life. Yeah, I'm still a little sour about it.

 

No doubt!  I mean, since he's the one making all the money she probably shouldn't have any say in their join decision making at all.  It would probably be best if she could hold off having opinions or even talking as well.  Better yet, she should probably just lock herself in a cage in the basement and only be allowed out when Ryan Suter says so.  I mean, he makes money and she has "a free ride" so its not unreasonable to expect her to abdicate her say in their future plans for a life of domestic slavery.