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#2453310 11/12 GDT : Jets 3 at Red Wings 2 (SO)

Posted by kipwinger on 12 November 2013 - 10:22 PM

Unless Holland can make a miracle trade to shed some salary, I'm afraid we're stuck with much the same for the remainder of the year.  And thus another season of D and Z's prime passes without any meaningful attempt to build a team around them.

#2453261 11/12 GDT : Jets 3 at Red Wings 2 (SO)

Posted by kipwinger on 12 November 2013 - 10:11 PM

Hey look, we've got nobody in the lineup younger than Zetterberg who has shown he's capable of putting up 40+ points consistently.  No wonder wee don't have any secondary scoring.  All the young guys we've developed since Franzen are either gone (Hudler and Flip) or not point producers Helm, Andersson, Abby.  You can't go without developing scorers for six or seven years.

#2453088 11/12 GDT : Jets 3 at Red Wings 2 (SO)

Posted by kipwinger on 12 November 2013 - 08:07 PM


Someone went off for the change turning it into an odd man rush but I think Kindl could've played it better.  You can't leave that third guy wide open.  Kronwall was playing it like a two on one down the left side, Kindl could've cheated a little towards the free man.


Hindsight 20/20 and whatnot though. I should probably be happy Kindl  covered the front of the net instead of skating behind it.


Well as Mickey just said, it was a perfectly executed three on two.  When a guy is driving hard to the net like that you've got to take him.  If he'd have been floating a bit or hanging back then you can try and tie up two guys with positioning.  But when he's coming hard like that you've got to slow him up, which Kindl did, and Wheeler made a hell of a pass to set up a hell of a shot for the third guy. 


But my sole point to begin with was that not every goal scored against the wings is the result of a f*ck up by one of our guys.  There doesn't always need to be a scapegoat.  Sometimes the opposition just executes particularly well.  They are professionals after all.

#2453060 11/12 GDT : Jets 3 at Red Wings 2 (SO)

Posted by kipwinger on 12 November 2013 - 07:56 PM

I should kick my brain in the ass. That was Kindls man roaming free. Nothing Jimmy could do.


That was not Kindl's man, stop with the blame game.  It was a three on two, Kronwall took the puck carrier, Kindl took the forward driving the net, and the third man was uncovered.  Neither of our d-men misplayed that one, it was just a well executed three on two. 

#2452869 Stamkos breaks leg in Boston this afternoon

Posted by kipwinger on 11 November 2013 - 11:58 PM

I feel bad for Stamkos and Tampa, but am I the only one thinking to himself, "f*ck team Canada"?

#2452030 11/7 GDT: Stars 4 at Red Wings 3 (OT)

Posted by kipwinger on 07 November 2013 - 10:45 PM

Well expect more of the same boys.  With this roster situation and cap problems I don't see any help on the horizon anytime soon.  On the plus side, I just watched Babs' presser and according to him it's the teams' fault and they just need to "play better".  Because clearly the problem is that 23 guys just forgot how to play hockey, which means that at any time they could just remember again. 

#2451923 11/7 GDT: Stars 4 at Red Wings 3 (OT)

Posted by kipwinger on 07 November 2013 - 09:47 PM






Dirtiest goal of the season by a country mile.

#2451683 Tootoo Waived

Posted by kipwinger on 07 November 2013 - 05:34 PM


i think you are overvaluing hollands role in the points you mention above.


aside from using the cap circumvention tricks that many used for several years to keep cap hits down, there aren't really any red wings who have signed well below market value to stay. i do not believe that holland has helped keep costs down.


hossa and alfredsson came here to play with top quality players and in hossascase to win a cup. in 3 or 4 years when 13 and 40 have retired, who will wnat to come play here with the top talent we dont have? regardless, this point speaks to the talent we already have not hollands ability to attract free agents. both player fell into his lap, that doesnt exactly scream 'highly skilled gm' by getting them signed.


DD is another bad example because there was nothing holland could do to woo him. all teams were able to offer the same max entry contract. there was nothing creative or mind blowing that holland needed to do to make the deal happen. at the end of the day DD is from michigan and went to college in michigan, it once again is not a signing that should be a feather in a gms cap.


brunner i guess is a decent example of a nice signing. however, what is the point when they let him go a year later for nothing in return?



my point in all of this is that overall KH has had more misses than hits in recent years. i believe that he and babcocks resistance to youth is about to hamstring this team for years to come. i am really excited about so many prospects in this organization, but when they never are put n a position to succeed, then it doesnt matter how deep the prospect pool is...


i am not saying KH is a moron or should be fired tomorrow. i just worry that he is leading the team in the wrong direction. i also feel like his reputation is overblown and thats how he gets by so easily. 


There isn't any resistance to youth.  There's just resistance to the youth that you personally want to see.  Smith is young, Dekeyser is young, Andersson is young, Tatar is young, Lashoff is young.  All of them have seen significant playing time this year and last.  Mrazek will next year, and so will Nyquist.  If Nyquist were playing right now you wouldn't be saying either Babcock or Holland were resistant to youth influxes.  You're only saying this because you'd rather have Nyquist than Cleary or Sammy.  We all would.  But not playing one guy does not make an organization resistant to youth. 


But, but, but...Quincey is terrible and Quellet is sooooooooooooo good!  Everybody used to say the same thing about Smith.  In truth, most guys in GR need to be there another year at least, Nyquist, Mrazek, and Glendening aside. 

#2451515 Tootoo Waived

Posted by kipwinger on 07 November 2013 - 01:42 AM

I keep coming back here hoping to see that someone has picked him up.  Not because I don't like Tootoo, but because I'd love the cap relief.

#2451145 11/4 GDT: Red Wings 2 @ Jets 4

Posted by kipwinger on 04 November 2013 - 10:34 PM

Kind of a crooked one, then my nose scrunches up like I smell something bad, then I close one eye like a pirate and then puff out my cheeks. Then I throw up in my mouth because the Jets score again.


"Clitsome's going to the box".  C'mon Ken Daniels.

#2451091 11/4 GDT: Red Wings 2 @ Jets 4

Posted by kipwinger on 04 November 2013 - 10:17 PM

Well in spite of everything, Brian Lashoff has looked really good tonight eh?

#2450908 11/4 GDT: Red Wings 2 @ Jets 4

Posted by kipwinger on 04 November 2013 - 08:53 PM

it was pretty bad, most everyone sleepwalking


Jimmy kept it from being an early blow-out, made several highlight reel saves before giving one up on a breakaway courtesy of Quincey falling on his ass



There are at least five or six guys on the Winnipeg team that I would absolutely love to have on our hockey team.  I have no idea why they're as bad as they are.

#2450701 Nyquist taking things in stride, with class

Posted by kipwinger on 04 November 2013 - 08:44 AM

Look who's keeping pace with Nyquist down in Grand Rapids.  Tomas Jurco is going to be the real deal.

#2450506 11/2 GDT: Red Wings 5 at Oilers 0

Posted by kipwinger on 03 November 2013 - 02:39 AM

So that's what speed through the neutral zone looks like.  Welcome back #43.

#2450505 stephen weiss

Posted by kipwinger on 03 November 2013 - 02:37 AM

You guys have made this thread all about whether Weiss is a more skilled player than Filppula, which I think misses the point.  The real concern is whether or not Weiss can be a better player, FOR US, than Filppula was.  And in spite of his struggles, I'm not sure that he won't be.  He's looking better, and so far this season it's not like anybody else on our team has set the world on fire...to include D and Z.  Who cares what Filppula's totals are, we've seen what our teams looks like with him (for several years now) and it didn't win.  Time to try something new.