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#2611052 Coaching Search Thread a.k.a. the Jeff Blashill Thread

Posted by kipwinger on 28 May 2015 - 01:11 PM


No, it was just a descriptive word I used to describe someone being happy about being right lol. Nothing negative meant by it. 


In the end, at some point the Wings will slump (as all teams to) and some will find a way to turn it into Holland's fault for Babs leaving  :lol:


Do you prance around when you're right about things?  I don't.  I guess because I've been right before.  The novelty has worn off. 

#2611047 The return of The Mule?

Posted by kipwinger on 28 May 2015 - 01:07 PM

It's amazing how much disdain this guy generated for some, and now that he's hurt and possibly retiring it's magically disappeared.

Don't worry guys, he'll come back so we can discuss buying him out again


"I hope the Wings buy out that weak, lazy, imp of a player right now.  What a girl!"


6 months later...


"I hope, for his sake, he decided to retire.  He really needs to think about his children, and the quality of his life.  It's too important to be taking such risks with your health.  I worry for him". 



#2610987 WCF : (3) Chicago Blackhawks vs. (1) Anaheim Ducks

Posted by kipwinger on 28 May 2015 - 09:02 AM

I realize that there's all sorts of residual hate from the rivalry (or what was left of it), but I really don't understand hating the Blackhawks and wanting teams in our conference (and particularly our division) to win.  Firstly, because f*** anybody else in our division.  But secondly, because the Hawks play (and win) EXACTLY like we used to.  They're the Red Wings.  If anybody should be able to appreciate just how good they are at what they do, it's us.  If you'd just thrown Red Wings sweaters on the Hawks last night, it could have easily been confused for the 2009 conference semis. 


Maybe that's the reason why, now that I think about it. 

#2610761 Coaching Search Thread a.k.a. the Jeff Blashill Thread

Posted by kipwinger on 27 May 2015 - 11:49 PM

Nope...now its just the "blash isn't going to be as good as everyone is hoping and everyone is a bunch of idiots if you think he is going to even be good.we are going to suck even worse this next season." rhetoric

On the contrary, I predict that we'll be better.  Much better.  I predict we'll have a better regular season record than last year AND we'll win a playoff series. 

#2610379 Jim Devellano on Mantha's play: "Very disappointing"

Posted by kipwinger on 26 May 2015 - 10:31 AM

In retrospect, I was hard on Devellano in this thread.


This is a man who produced one of the greatest drafts in NHL history in 1983, when he drafted Yzerman, Probert, Kocur, Grimson and Klima.  


There's a lineup I'd go to war with.   ;)  I'm guessing the Wings must have been bullied in 1982.  


Devallano knows what he's talking about.  He was brought in to build a successful franchise and he built the most successful one in the NHL.  People just rail against him because he criticized someone who is popular.  And folks don't like that.  It's not enough that the Wings, or the Griffins, be good.  They have to be good with our favorite players too.  Because if our favorite players turn out to be no good, what does that say about our own judgement?


What's true of Holland in the other thread is true of Devallano here.  Nobody has had as much success with the modern Wings than these guys have had.  More than Bowman.  More than Babcock.  More than Yzerman, or Lidstrom, or everybody else. 


I think 30 years of unparalleled success affords you the right to say whatever the hell you want about a 20 year old prospect. 

#2610368 At what point does the GM deserve credit/blame?

Posted by kipwinger on 26 May 2015 - 08:56 AM

Ken Holland has been with the organization for 30 years.  18 of which he's been the GM.  He started as as scout, then the director of scouting, then the assistant GM, then the co-GM, and then the full GM.  It's not a coincidence that he was hired just prior to the Wings beginning an epic playoff streak. 


To try and dismiss his contributions to the organization as anything less than profound would be an absolutely gross understatement.  He's been more important to this team's success then any other individual. 


If you hire a GM from outside the organization, you can argue he's riding coattails.  But it's a little hard to say that about a guy who's been a member of the Red Wings longer than Steve Yzerman and Nick Lidstrom. 


To a lesser extent, this is true of Stan Bowman as well.  Sure Tallon was the GM before him.  But he started with Chicago in 2001 when they were a garbage team.  Unless he was just standing around playing with himself for 8 years he likely contributed to their assent.  Is he entirely responsible?  No.  But he's contributed from the bottom up. 


Yzerman doesn't deserve much credit for that first conference finals appearance as he had just come in from outside the organization and had been with the team for less than a year.  But he deserves credit for every single other success they've had since. 

#2609641 Slava Fetisov: Giant Hypocrite.

Posted by kipwinger on 22 May 2015 - 10:28 AM

Slava Fetisov, former Red Wing defenseman and star of the wildly popular documentary "Red Army", wants Russian law to ban Russian hockey players from coming to the U.S. before their 28th birthday. 


You'll recall Fetisov's story.  He bucked Soviet law preventing him from coming to the U.S. to play hockey, by refusing to play for their national team.  In the documentary he explained how he wanted to be free to make his own decisions, make his own money, and determine his own future, without being coerced by federal authorities. 


And now he's a federal authority.  And he's trying to restrict young players from having those very same liberties. 


Here's a thought Slava.  Rather than using a draconian legal system to force people to stay against their will, how's about you work toward reforming said legal system, and equally restrictive and authoritarian economic policies, so that people will WANT to stay in your s***ty country.  You are, after all, a Senator. 


What a dick.



#2609639 Coaching Search Thread a.k.a. the Jeff Blashill Thread

Posted by kipwinger on 22 May 2015 - 10:18 AM

I don't think we need to land a top guy.  We've already got Kronwall.  We just need to upgrade, where possible. 


Look at Tampa Bay's defense.  Yzerman was criticized pretty heavily for wrapping up so much money in non-impact defensemen like Carle, Stralman, Garrison, and Coburn.  None of those guys are really "top guys", but collectively they're better than any other alternative Tampa had.  And they're playing good enough to win. 

#2609605 Dylan Larkin turning pro... will play for GR immediately

Posted by kipwinger on 22 May 2015 - 07:53 AM

I have high hopes for Larkin but to think he is going to make the Wings squad next year is ludacris. He needs to adjust to the AHL for a full season or two. It will be interesting however how he fares against the toughest competition of the AHL off the bat!


Probably fair points, but if he can come in and start learning the NHL game without any hindrance to his long term development, I want him learning from datsyuk and Z as long as he can.

Damn. Always one step ahead.

#2609530 Dylan Larkin turning pro... will play for GR immediately

Posted by kipwinger on 21 May 2015 - 05:24 PM

Lets not judge our next coaches decisions before he is even our coach  :lol:

Saying that Larkin will be a wing is just as silly as saying Pulkkinen will be a center. He won't.

#2609324 Coaching Search Thread a.k.a. the Jeff Blashill Thread

Posted by kipwinger on 21 May 2015 - 09:54 AM


And what the f*** is my argument again? Are you suggesting that I don't think we should hire Blashill, because it isn't even remotely true.


You seem to be suggesting that everybody should be wary of expecting too much out of Jeff Blashill as head coach.  Because Dave Lewis wasn't a good head coach.  So maybe Blash won't be either. 


If that's not what you're saying, then I have absolutely no idea why you'd bring Lewis up.  Other than to try and make some sort of tenuous comparison which isn't grounded in similarity at all. 


Why did you bring Lewis up again?


Edit:  Nobody expects Blashill to win the Cup next year.  But here's the thing...nobody expected Babcock to win the Cup next year either (had he stayed).  So expectations are EXACTLY the same.  However, given their relatively similar career trajectories, and the fact that Blashill out performed him in all head to head competition, I don't think it would be a stretch to expect him to be as good as Jon Cooper was in his first season as head coach.  Which is a much more realistic comparison than the phony one you keep trying to make with Dave Lewis. 

#2609306 Coaching Search Thread a.k.a. the Jeff Blashill Thread

Posted by kipwinger on 21 May 2015 - 09:04 AM

There is nothing even remotely similar about Jeff Blashill and Dave Lewis.  They both took over for successful coaches.  That's it.  Trying to make a comparison between the two is absurd. 


It's possible that Jeff Blashill will fail.  We all get that.  It's the EXACT same possibility that every coach has in his first year behind the bench in the NHL.  It's the same possibility that Scott Bowman had, Mike Babcock had, Joe Quenneville had.  We get it. 


Blashill has as good, or better, qualifications than any of these guys did prior to their first NHL head coaching gig.  Better than Bylsma.  Better than McLellan.  Better than Cooper, Eakins, Boucher, too. 


And most importantly, better than  Dave Lewis.  


Could he fail?  Sure.  Does the information we have overwhelmingly point toward the opposite outcome?  Absolutely.   

#2609189 Coaching Search Thread a.k.a. the Jeff Blashill Thread

Posted by kipwinger on 20 May 2015 - 05:46 PM

Bring in the walrus.

I am the walrus.

I am the walrus.

Shut the f*** up Donny! V. I. Lenin! Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov!

#2608903 Babcock granted permission to talk to other teams

Posted by kipwinger on 20 May 2015 - 01:00 PM




Favorite post of the day. 


The ultimate Ken Holland heel turn.  I love it. 

#2608834 Babcock granted permission to talk to other teams

Posted by kipwinger on 20 May 2015 - 12:34 PM

Howard Berger @Berger_BYTES 11m11 minutes ago

Can't confirm, but told in email from source #Leafs offered Babcock dual role of GM and coach. Why not, huh?