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#2496480 Is the Real Brendan Smith Finally Starting the Show Up?

Posted by kipwinger on 18 March 2014 - 12:56 PM

 

Yup.  Send Ferraro back down if you're not going to play him & call Ouellet up to take Smith's spot.

 

Why go through all that?  Just call up Callahan and leave Smith at his natural position.  This whole Smith to forward idea is gimmicky enough to get people interested, but at the end of the day it's still totally hairbrained. 




#2496410 Injury Updates

Posted by kipwinger on 18 March 2014 - 11:04 AM

Babs.

 

Best post of the day.  Easily.




#2496393 Injury Updates

Posted by kipwinger on 18 March 2014 - 10:36 AM

Who has to die before Callahan gets a call up? 




#2496390 Is the Real Brendan Smith Finally Starting the Show Up?

Posted by kipwinger on 18 March 2014 - 10:31 AM

smith is indeed practicing as a LW per Khan. Does anyone else have a weirdly good feeling about this?

 

How could you not feel better knowing that Smith won't be relied upon to defend National Hockey League forwards anymore?  Though I am a bit afraid of how many turnovers he'll have now that passing will be required of him more often. 




#2496353 Franzen calls out team

Posted by kipwinger on 18 March 2014 - 08:51 AM

if one thing has been made clear with these injuries, it's that tatar/nyquist are not players in the mold of datsyuk/zetterberg - they aren't the guys that are going to carry your team.  they're secondary players.

 

They're rookies!  Datsyuk and Zetterberg weren't players in the mold of Datsyuk/Zetterberg when they were rookies either. 

 

Zetterberg was runner up in rookie of the year voting his first year with 22 goals and 22 assists in 79 games, Datsyuk had a less impressive 11 goals and 24 assists in 70 games his rookie year.  Both Tatar AND Nyquist are on pace to beat those numbers in MANY fewer games.  Furthermore, neither Datsyuk nor Zetterberg were asked to do as much in their respective rookie campaigns.  They were both on teams LOADED with talent.

 

Maybe they will turn out to be that good, and likely they won't.  But to act as if their rookie years have been anything other than spectacular is absurd. 




#2496338 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by kipwinger on 18 March 2014 - 06:11 AM

You know, to be honest maybe missing the playoffs isn't the worst thing in the world.  I personally don't give a sh*t about "the streak".  I'll be bummed that I won't get to watch hockey as long this year, but other than that I think it's a good thing.  I'm sick of watching us make the playoffs only to get beat prior to the conference finals.  This team is in serious need of some house cleaning.  If ending "the streak" doesn't motivate the brass to do that, then I don't know what will.  Plus, it will give Holland the excuse he clearly needs to cut some of these guys loose.  "Sorry Dano, we'd love to re-sign you but after last season we're forced to take a hard look at our team and we've decided to move in a different direction". 

 

Let the expiring contracts go.  Promote the four kids to full time, thus putting us in good cap position.  And make decisions on those guys who are only marginal...e.g. Kindl, Andersson, Glendening, etc.  If you don't want them, trade them for whatever you can get and put all the savings toward fixing the problems that you can.  Here's what I'd like to see, but this is only me...

 

Zetterberg-Dats-?

Franzen-Weiss-Nyquist

Tatar-Sheahan-Jurco

Miller-Helm-Abby

 

Kronwall-Ericsson

?-Dekeyser

Smith-Lashoff

 

Howard

 

Finally, something to ponder.  The free agent class is thin, but we do legitimately need a top six winger who isn't a converted center.  This won't be popular, but I'd consider either Gaborik or Heatly as a stop gap measure PROVIDED they weren't signed long term and took modest pay reductions...which might not be a hard sell considering Heatly's production has dipped in recent years and Gaborik has been hurt.  No more than two years at 5.75 for either of them.  Like I said, it won't be popular but it wouldn't cost us assets and there's no sense just sitting on the money.

 

I don't know what's available on defense, but probably a stop gap there too unless Buffalo wants to unload Erhoff before free agency.




#2496318 Franzen calls out team

Posted by kipwinger on 17 March 2014 - 11:42 PM

Good on him for saying so, but no matter how much they "want it" or don't, "play heavy" or don't, "stick to it" or don't, you're not going to beat national hockey league teams with AHL level talent.  Particularly when the NHL players you do have in the lineup are largely the supporting cast.  This team has serious holes in it that haven't been addressed for about four years now.  Until they get addressed, they'll struggle...healthy or not...effort or not. 

 

I do want to say that I like seeing Franzen step up though.  He's played well since his return and I always love seeing guys try to be a factor off the ice as well as on it.




#2496129 3/16 GDT: Red Wings 1 at Blackhawks 4

Posted by kipwinger on 17 March 2014 - 06:37 AM

 

It appears so. The team is lost. Even the kids can't keep this sinking ship afloat.

 

That's just crazy.  I mean, if Legwand wasn't going to single handedly drag us into the playoffs through his sheer strength of character and hockey prowess, then why did we give up good assets for him rather than just sign him in the offseason? 




#2495573 Finally-TooToo called up

Posted by kipwinger on 16 March 2014 - 12:44 PM

Finally, Tootoo is back.  This will put an end to our goal scoring woes. 




#2495409 A great scrap ends in....A high five and a hug?

Posted by kipwinger on 15 March 2014 - 12:20 AM

Meh.

 

Guys like Dave Brown or Bob Probert would never get that theatrical after a fight.  I realize it's a job and some of these guys are close friends, but this is making the whole thing look like a joke.  

 

The whole thing is a joke.  It just takes some people longer to get it than others. 




#2494925 What would it take a get Shea Weber?

Posted by kipwinger on 12 March 2014 - 11:17 PM

Lots of teams win lots of Cups without Shea Weber...like all of the them.  So why give up that much to get him when the reality is hit cap hit is so prohibitive you team will never win as long as he's on it.  How many times do teams have to sign Webers, and Ovechkins, and Lecavaliers, and Kovalchuks to HUGE contracts with no success afterward before people realize it's their contracts which are the problem. 

 

No thanks on Shea Weber. 




#2494110 Is the Real Brendan Smith Finally Starting the Show Up?

Posted by kipwinger on 10 March 2014 - 05:01 PM

 

True, I was a bit hard on the guy, but its not like a hockey forum is a place for careful critical thinking and rational arguments. You sir are a gentleman and scholar while I was... less so. Still, Smith is the last player I am pinning my hopes on for this team. 

 

I completely agree, and my views on Smith are pretty well established.  But I do recognize that a guy can develop late...particularly in our system.  I was one of the "f*ck Ericsson" folks a couple years ago and I had to eat crow on that.  So I have to at least consider the possibility that Smith could do the same, as much as I hate his stupid face.




#2494108 Andersson breaks foot - down another center

Posted by kipwinger on 10 March 2014 - 04:55 PM

"But, but, but Holland is a terrible GM and we didn't need Legwand and needed better defence." - half the people on the board last week.

 

We do need better defense.  And having one NHL caliber centerman (who isn't Crosby or Stamkos) and a bunch of kids, is not noticeably better than having a bunch of kids and no NHL caliber centers.  With or without Legwand, unless some key guys get healthy quick we're not making the playoffs. 

 

Which is why I'd rather have kept the assets and risked ending the streak...or...spent the assets on a defenseman who was signed for more than this season.  But that's just me.  I stand behind my objection to the terms of the trade.




#2494071 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by kipwinger on 10 March 2014 - 02:17 PM

Yeah because the trade didn't finish and submit to the league within 1 minute of the dead line.

 

At base case scenario he becomes as good as Legwand is now? Yeah we really lost that one.


No I'm judging him because he didn't perform at the world cup and was a 4th line player. You know that thing were all great NHL players performed well at? That's where you get a look at your players for the first time and how they compete with and against other highly praised NHL prospects. That's where Jarnkrok lost value and its for good reason.

 

He didn't perform well in 19 games in the World Championships (which is made up of junior players) but did perform well in more than 19 games in the AHL (made up of professionals).  I'm not sure what your point is here?  That a couple years ago, in a small sub-sample, he didn't perform well?  Agreed.  But it's equally true that he's now playing much better hockey in a much more difficult league.

 

Any value he lost (not sure he did), he regained by being a stud over his last 36 games with the Griffins.




#2494042 Is the Real Brendan Smith Finally Starting the Show Up?

Posted by kipwinger on 10 March 2014 - 12:25 PM

 

Out of the two I'll take idiot.  

 

Every time I think Kindl has changed his game, he reverts to cowering from a hit and blindly getting rid of the puck.  Which is especially frustrating given he is 6'3" and 216 lbs.  Kindl is bigger than everyone on the Red Wings blueline except Ericsson.  

 

But the bad decision making is hopefully correctable.  It's about learning to be consistent for a whole game and not making a terrible decision when you're tired or trying to do too much.  

 

Hard to argue with you.  I was obviously always more of a Kindl guy, but he's been sitting and it hasn't really hurt us so I really can't say I've got strong feelings either way anymore.  I'm not particularly happy with either, but I suppose a s***ty defenseman, who scores occasionally, and punches someone once in a while is better than a s***ty defenseman, who scores occasionally, and doesn't. 

 

To be honest I think both of them would be drastically better if they were on different teams.  Like every other position, Babs requires his players be good both ways, and neither of these guys seem up to it (so far).  On a team where they could just do all offense, all the time, both would at least excel in that regard.  Seems like Babs would rather not have the offense if it means being bad defensively, while others might rather accept the bad defense in favor of more offense.  On a team where they were turned loose they'd produce more, but their defensive development would essentially end right where it is now.