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#2553712 12/4 GDT - Stars 2 at Red Wings 5

Posted by kipwinger on 04 December 2014 - 12:23 PM

Nyquist - Zetterberg - Franzen

Tatar - Datsyuk - Helm

Jurco - Sheahan - Weiss

Miller - Glendening - Andersson


Babcock is getting closer to what I have been wanting to see all year... Doubt it'll ever get there though...


Switch Helm and Jurco, plug in Abdelkader for Andersson when he is healthy... Perfect! :tounge2:


And then, when you've finished that, swap Helm with Abby, and Abby with Franzen?  Perfect. 


But in all seriousness, I really don't care how the lines look as long as we keep scoring goals.  I know that Babs and everyone else wants to get back to our good old defensive ways.  But in the last 8 games we've averaged almost four goals a game and won six times (including our best streak of the season, 4 in a row).  Compare that to the first 8 games where we played stingy defense and barely scored two goals a game (4-4 record) and I'm not sure why anybody is clamoring for a return to the old.  Fact is, we're a better team when we're more opened up offensively.  And I'd gladly drop two games out of every eight if it means we'll score almost 4 a night doing it. 


#2553682 Babcock "I don't think it will be my final year here"

Posted by kipwinger on 04 December 2014 - 10:18 AM

Why would he walk if we win the cup?... I think if we get bounced early he may consider walking, if we have a deep run, he stays, if we win the cup, he stays. Personally, I don't think Babcock is going anywhere for at least another few seasons...


Just my gut feeling that he'd be looking for new challenges/opportunities.  Just like Bowman did after his years in Montreal.  Why not?  You get to name your price, coach any player you want to, live in any part of the country you want to, and maybe set yourself up for a GM position somewhere down the line.  Two Cups and the clout he's already got in the NHL and Babs can write his own contract almost anywhere in the league...anywhere except Detroit where he'll get the money but not the additional management decision making power.



Here http://www.cbssports...-xavier-ouellet



“Well, that's a great question to have,” Babcock answered. “I don't have to answer that one, though. I just said I'd ask the other guy and then I'll support everything he's decided.”

“I got my two cents in, so I get one vote,” Babcock said. “He (Holland) gets two, so he can win, 2-1.""


I think a 1:1 vote + asking a third person (assistant GM, Blashill etc.) would be a good idea.


For sure Babs is going to say that as do players, because it drives the price up and doesn't leave much media room for endless speculations. Personally I fully expect him leaving, if he does stay I would be very surprised and happy, by far the best coach in the NHL.


Ken Holland is the most successful GM in the business.  He's has (twice) managed to rebuild an aging team while keeping it competitive.  His drafting and player development programs are unrivaled.  And even his worst mistakes are hardly disasters (no David Clarkson contracts in Detroit). 


Why exactly should anybody else have as much say in the management of the roster as he does?  Should Ken Holland get to have some say in the coaching too or should that be left to the guy who's clearly shown that he's capable of doing it well?


I find myself falling into the same trap sometimes.  I want to see a particular acquisition or roster move, and when it doesn't happen I get irritated with Ken Holland.  But after seeing how good these kids are, how good the ones in Grand Rapids are, and how their growth and development coincides with the decline of the previous core, I'm just going to admit how wrong I am. 


Ken Holland is the best in the business, and nobody (Not Babcock, Blashill, Ryan Martin, Jim Devellano, etc.) should tell him how to manage a roster.  Ever.

#2553637 12/2 GDT : Panthers 4 at Red Wings 3

Posted by kipwinger on 03 December 2014 - 07:01 PM

I mean, I know that we s*** the bed and all.  But everybody realizes that Florida isn't a terrible team right?  Like, they're not the same team that's been bottom feeding forever.  They're actually reasonably good. 

#2553218 Alfredsson Set to Sign 1-day Contract with Senators

Posted by kipwinger on 02 December 2014 - 11:02 AM

Typical.  Another quality free agent signs to another team as a result of Ken Holland's inaction.  When will this joker's reign of terror end?!

#2553125 Are the Wings a Contender?

Posted by kipwinger on 01 December 2014 - 08:42 PM

Why not call up Callahan, since ya know, he does all the same stuff that Abby does for his respective team?  PK, net front on PP, puck retrieval on top line, defensively responsible, gritty forechecker. 

#2553102 Are the Wings a Contender?

Posted by kipwinger on 01 December 2014 - 06:42 PM

Am I invited to this party?  You can remind Bobby that he and I went to the same high school and church.  (ok, so he was a senior when I was a freshman -- but his sister and I graduated the same year... also, I never really saw him at church, but I know his family went to the same Catholic church as my family did... it counts, no?)


I'm no good at reading fine print, so I'm just going to assume you said something to the effect of, "I went to the same high school and church as dozens of strippers and will be sure to bring them along".  As such, welcome aboard buddy.

#2553090 Are the Wings a Contender?

Posted by kipwinger on 01 December 2014 - 03:21 PM

Every time I say something isn't working on this team, they turn around and make it work.  Inconsistency?  They win four in a row.  Too many centers on the team?  Offense starts scoring like gangbusters.  Powerplay's a mess?  Top ten in the league.


So I guess what I'm saying is...they will absolutely, positively, not win the Stanley Cup in decisive fashion in front of a home crowd while Kid Rock and I are in the front row (surrounded by strippers) getting hammered drunk.  Nope, not at all. 

#2551886 Mantha getting closer.

Posted by kipwinger on 25 November 2014 - 09:21 AM















So... you guys are saying we have some options on the back-end?  




Have you been on a bender for the last couple of days lol?  Your posts are...interesting?

#2551534 11/24 GDT : Ottawa Senators 3 at Red Wings 4

Posted by kipwinger on 24 November 2014 - 01:53 PM

Weiss on playing wing tonight - "It's completely different. I played center the last two games (in Grand Rapids) and I got wing tonight, so I'll have to be on my toes"...


It really doesn't make sense to throw Weiss in the lineup in a position that he has never really played, especially when Helm has been playing quite a bit of wing this year...


I think Babcock out thinks himself sometimes.  And I'm not sure whether that makes him too smart, or not smart enough. 


Just like the time he didn't put Nyquist on the powerplay in overtime.  "Well, we thought about it and then I talked myself out of it".  Knock it off.  I get the impression he feels like if something is obvious, it must be inferior or something. 

#2551533 Saluting the fans

Posted by kipwinger on 24 November 2014 - 01:50 PM

You know that isn't a realistic idea, right. There's so many hockey fans in and around Toronto they would still sell out even if a large amount of fans stopped buying tickets in some kind of protest. 


With that in mind, maybe it's a little more understandable why leaf fans use their own stupid forms of protest (paperbag masks, jersey on ice, general douchebaggery)


Then they're doomed to always be as bad as they are.  Good.  I don't care, I'm not a Toronto fan.  But I do find it hilarious that these goobers think they deserve a salute after each game.  For what?  Being too dumb to recognize a bad investment?

#2551519 Inconsistency

Posted by kipwinger on 24 November 2014 - 01:10 PM

Our record has been better without Datsyuk in the lineup this season, but I think it would be foolish to think we're a better team without Datsyuk (and I'm not saying that's what you're saying..) For whatever reason guys seem to step up big time when Datsyuk is out of the lineup and sit back and assume he is going to carry the team to victory each and every night. That isn't the case any more unfortunately... Guys need to step up the same way as when he isn't playing even when he is...


Of course we're not a better team.  I'm just saying that you can't pin loses on the failure to have Datsyuk in the lineup.  We don't have too many loses without Datsyuk in the lineup.  So far, the fact that our impressive wins are punctuated by loses isn't due to Datsyuk's absence, because thus far when he's been gone we've won more often than lost.  That's all I'm saying. 

#2551488 11/24 GDT : Ottawa Senators 3 at Red Wings 4

Posted by kipwinger on 24 November 2014 - 11:50 AM

Let's go wings! I'm glad to see Weiss is in but I wish we had him at center. I'd like to see him getting back to playing his natural position. Does anybody know what position he was playing in GR?


Center.  But you didn't think Babcock would make it easy did you?  Obviously if you want a guy to be your second line center one day, you start him as your third line wing.  It all makes perfect sense if you have an honorary PhD in Sports Psychology.  Dumb asses like Jeff Blashill just make Weiss a center and give him decent wingers and look how that turns out...

#2551483 Saluting the fans

Posted by kipwinger on 24 November 2014 - 11:38 AM

I'd be pretty disgruntled after not having won a Cup since 1967.


Then they should stop buying tickets and put pressure on the organization to make some fundamental changes.  They're like Lions fans.  If you're sick of losing stop giving them money. 

#2551475 Saluting the fans

Posted by kipwinger on 24 November 2014 - 10:54 AM

The long suffering Maple Leafs' fans ought to be saluted each and every game for being the most fickle, arrogant, and entitled group of fans in all of professional hockey.  Hard to imagine why a guy like Phil Kessel wouldn't be interested in saluting a bunch of folks who were calling for his head after a 37 goal, 80 point season.  Ditto for Kadri.  And Reimer. 


There's only one salute these s***birds deserve, and it involves something other than a stick in the air. 


Maple Leafs fans, you are the problem. 

#2551471 11/24 GDT : Ottawa Senators 3 at Red Wings 4

Posted by kipwinger on 24 November 2014 - 10:37 AM

I hope you're right derblaue. He needs to get in some games with the Wings as soon as possible.


I hope you're both right.  Weiss need repetitions and confidence and he's not going to get either of those on the bench.  Hopefully Babs' understands and is on board with this.  Weiss needs to be given a line, with competent wingers, and enough time to find his game.  Which shouldn't be asking too much.  Look how much time Babs has given Helm to find his game after his craptacular start.  Weiss is going to have some bad games on the road to recovery.  But if he keeps getting jerked after each bad outing, he's never going to gain any traction. 


For now I'd stick him on a line with Helm and Jurco as wingers, and just let him get his strength and speed back.  They won't score much (or at all) but if they can play teams even (until Dats gets back and the lines shuffle again) I'll be happy.