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#2613158 Khan: Jeff Blashill to be announced new head coach next week

Posted by kipwinger on 04 June 2015 - 02:57 PM

I hope they announce that s*** *during* thef****** game.

And big ups (1991 called, wants its slang back) to the Knube!

Edit: wow thats a lot **** of *****f****** ****stars ****



I was just looking over Mike Knuble's career stat line.  That guy was damned impressive.  He's probably the most underrated ex-Red Wing in history.  Very quality career he put together. 

#2613148 Retire Sergei Fedorovís Jersey Immediately

Posted by kipwinger on 04 June 2015 - 02:09 PM

I'm so confused by what's going on here.  This has got to be a prank of some sort, right?

#2613141 Khan: Jeff Blashill to be announced new head coach next week

Posted by kipwinger on 04 June 2015 - 01:36 PM

Dan Cleary is great in the dressing room.


And the bedroom, amiright?

#2613122 Report: Jeff Petry and Munn-tree-all ruin 2015 free agency

Posted by kipwinger on 04 June 2015 - 11:28 AM

not to mention our former coach, but I said as soon as he went to TO that there would be no way Weiss, Smith and Jurco would be traded there now.  They had to be the most in the doghouse than anyone!  Weiss would never waive his NTC to go and play for him again anyway. (Well I cannot say never because I don't know what he is thinking, but you get the idea.)



Anyhow, related to the subject.  I mentioned that with this signing that Phanuef may be our cheapest option now, Franson, Green, Martin, they are all going to get at least $7M on the market.  They may take hometown discounts to stay where they are, but if they hit the open market, look out!  Outside of just rolling the dice with the kids, I believe the only way to improve the D without destroying the cap is via trade.  With the doghouse gang most likely NOT going to TO, now we really have to become creative if we want Phanuef or look at other options and other teams.  We can save that discussion for a "trade scenario" so we don't change the subject again here. 


I say good for Petry, it's his "prime" contract, so he should've tried to get what he could! I am 99% sure that Holland wouldn't have offered him anywhere near that to play here, especially since he is from Ann Arbor, Holland would have tried to get a double discount out of him!


Here's something we have to think about also.  Even though they are both RFA's (Smith now and Dekeyser next year) how much are they going to cost us?  Even going to arbitration may work more in their favor over Holland's.  Also, even though KFQ was probably gone anyhow after next year, can you imagine they amount he will probably get as a UFA?  Not that he is any better than Petry, but you have to figure Q will ask for at least what Petry got, if not more depending on how other D-men sign this year.  I hope and pray that the KFQ experiment is over after next season...unless, of course he has a year that makes him into an elite d-man...


I'll bet you $100, to a charity of your choosing, if ANY of Franson, Green, or Martin get 7 million dollars AAV.  I'll bet you $500 dollars, to a charity of your choosing if ALL of them do (as you're suggesting). 



#2613117 Khan: Jeff Blashill to be announced new head coach next week

Posted by kipwinger on 04 June 2015 - 11:08 AM

So it's a coronation, Holland didn't even bother talking to Carlyle, Wilson, MacLean, Boucher, or Tortorella?  


Why bother?  Two of those guys suck, and the other three don't fit our organizational philosophy.  When McLellan and Bylsma were hired elsewhere, the (already low) probability that we'd hire anyone else fell to zero. 

#2613114 What changes do you think we'll see with Blashill?

Posted by kipwinger on 04 June 2015 - 11:04 AM

That's a straw man's argument. Smith is dumb? Says who? You? Lol. The power play dropped off in the second half of the season. It's not like the Wings had the #1 power play in the NHL when the season ended. In the playoffs the PP failed to capitalize on many opportunities. If the PP was as good as you say it was then Tampa would be golfing right now. Does Smith make it better? I think he does. We will see what Blash does. Not just with Smith but all the players on the roster. I'm looking forward to it.


It's not a strawman argument at all.  I'm not suggesting you think he's dumb.  I'm saying he's dumb.  He turns the puck over , frequently blows his coverage, and was benched the first two games of the playoffs for playing the puck from the bench.  His judgement is questionable, to say the least. 


I'm not really sure why you're being contrary here.  All I've said is that he needs to earn powerplay time, not be handed powerplay time.  Seems like a truism. 


Are you suggesting he should be used on the powerplay just because it seems like he'd be good there based on his skill set?  Because that's a horrible way to run a team. 


Nobody would argue that Jurco should replace Abby in the top six because he's faster and a better stickhandler.  Nobody would suggest Gustavsson should start over Howard because he's bigger, more athletic, and is safer with the puck. 


They actually have to play better, consistently, when they're called upon.  To date, Brendan hasn't done that.  Which is why Babs didn't trust him, why his icetime was reduced, and why his stats suffered.  Not because he was being misutilized.  If Smith gets an opportunity and runs with it, good.  If not, too bad.  He's not entitled to powerplay time just because he has more raw talent than somebody else. 

#2613022 Retire Sergei Fedorovís Jersey Immediately

Posted by kipwinger on 03 June 2015 - 04:39 PM

He's just not as great as you think he is ... If he played his whole career in nyi and slt he would of won nothing ... Look back at the wings lineups during those glory years ... Truly remarkable stuff , never needed a superstar goalie to win with that lineup

Now imagine if we had hasek in nets as well from 93-05 how many cups we'd have

What really gets me is how people are praising osgood so much and yet s***ting on federov and he's the one who's had the way better career in detroit , only cause he chased some money along the way

Those guys you mentioned were also the best goalies of there time and won vezina's and conn smythe's, in nets for many cups

Brodeur roy hasek and others were miles away better than osgood


But what you said to discredit Osgood is also true of those other guys.  If you stuck Sawchuck, Fuhr, Plante, or Smith on crappy teams, instead of dynasty teams, they wouldn't have been great either.  They were all system goalies.  But nobody holds it against them. 


Osgood put up comparable, or better, career numbers than the guys I just mentioned.  He did it on a really good team.  They did it on even better teams.  But only Osgood gets criticized for it. 

#2613013 Retire Sergei Fedorovís Jersey Immediately

Posted by kipwinger on 03 June 2015 - 12:30 PM

I'm really not trying to turn this into an Osgood debate, but it looks like it's already heading that way. 


Using the fact that Osgood "took advantage of all-star teams" against him completely ignores the fact that guys like Fuhr, Sawchuk, Plante, and Smith ALL played for dynasty teams as well. 


I don't see anybody arguing that Grant Fuhr's banner should be pulled down because he played with Messier and Gretzky. 

#2613012 Report: Jeff Petry and Munn-tree-all ruin 2015 free agency

Posted by kipwinger on 03 June 2015 - 12:25 PM

Weiss, Smith, Jurco for Phaneuf?


Yeah, because Mike Babcock loves those three guys.  Might as well thrown Kindl in there too.  That'll really sweeten the pot. 


Any potential trade for Phaneuf went right out the window the second Babs went to Toronto. 

#2613008 Report: Jeff Petry and Munn-tree-all ruin 2015 free agency

Posted by kipwinger on 03 June 2015 - 12:03 PM

Ken Holland will offer the same thing he always does.  He'll offer the chance to make reasonable money and play for a perennial winner who treats you well.  He will not, however, offer the most money.  So guys who want the make the most, and don't care about anything else, won't come here.  Guys who want to win, be treated well, AND make reasonable money will sign here. 


Franson, Green, or anybody else will need to decide if they're in it for the money, or if they'd like to be part of an organization that's competently run and consistently successful.  If the former, then we're probably better off promoting from within anyway.  At least it will keep us out of cap hell. 

#2612912 All Purpose Grand Rapids Griffins Thread

Posted by kipwinger on 02 June 2015 - 07:29 PM

That's because the Griffs are making it easy on him.  They gain the zone and toss the puck at him from the perimeter.  Of course it's easy for him to deal with.  They've got not net front presence and nobody is making plays in the offensive zone.  They look like a team full of Mikael Samuelssons. 

#2612824 The return of The Mule?

Posted by kipwinger on 02 June 2015 - 09:27 AM

People really want to give up completely on Jurco already? I get the frustration in the moment, but come on... Is it really so hard to think long-term just a little bit?


Nah dude, he sucks.  Cut him.  Make him trade bait.  Cut bait and trade him.  etc.




Because one time, there was this guy named Ville Leino.  And get this, Ville Leino was lazy, arrogant, and entitled.  So therefore, he sucked.  And Jurco wasn't really very good this year either.  So chances are, he's probably like Ville Leino.  Because both of them weren't very good, for totally different reasons. 


Make sense now?

#2612670 The return of The Mule?

Posted by kipwinger on 01 June 2015 - 09:41 AM

Here's a thought.  With the emergence of Abby, Tatar, and Nyquist as regular scoring threats.  And with any potential FA acquisitions that Holland picks up, maybe Franzen gets pushed down the depth chart a bit.  Or, at the very least, he gets to take advantage of easier matchups/usage.  And in doing so, he isn't asked to shoulder as much of the offensive load as in years past. 


As a secondary scorer I think he'd be incredibly valuable.  He'd (theoretically) carve up third line competition. 

#2612669 2015 SCF : Chicago Blackhawks vs. Tampa Bay Lightning

Posted by kipwinger on 01 June 2015 - 09:35 AM

After how uninspired the Lightning looked against us in the first round, I'm pretty surprised they made it this far.  Experience means a lot and the Hawks, unfortunately, have that edge.  But the Lightning are a high scoring team, have beaten 3 other original 6 teams to get here and might be fresher not having played a bunch of multiple OT games against a physical team.  I want the Lightning to win, but I really can't see how that will happen.  Bishop is shaky and the Hawks forwards are way deeper than TB's.  I mean, seriously, as we saw in the first round, if you take away Tyler Johnson, this team is basically done.  Hoping it'll be TB in 7, but it'll more likely be Chicago in 5 or 6.


I don't think Tampa looked "uninspired" against us.  That makes it seem like the series was only close because they were slacking off or something.  The Red Wings are a tough out.  Just like New Jersey used to be.  We trap and trap and trap some more.  It's not easy to score goals on a team like that.  And Tampa needs to score lots of goals to win hockey games.  But the writing was on the wall for most of the series.  They owned the puck against us, just like they haven't against everyone else up to this point.  No matter how much you trap, it's tough to beat a team when they always have the puck and you never do. 

#2611423 The return of The Mule?

Posted by kipwinger on 29 May 2015 - 03:52 PM

There really isn't any reason to take this discussion too far afield.  Anybody who's been around LGW for a while knows the kinds of reactions that Franzen has received around here.  And the criticisms have definitely gone pretty far beyond observations of his play. 


If people genuinely feel bad for him, that's fine.  Who am I to say how you should feel about the guy?  I was just making an observation that there were an awful lot of people who had nothing good to say about him and wanted him gone at any cost.  Many went so far as to feminize his name (because chicks are lame bro! durrrrrr).  And some of those same people now act like they really give a crap about the guy...so long as he still leaves, of course.


I wish the guy all the good health in the world.  And if he wants to continue playing hockey, or trying to play hockey, who the hell am I to wish otherwise?  He and his doctors certainly know better than I do whether he's subjecting himself to anything unwise.  And he and his family are far more capable of weighing the risks and rewards of playing than any of us.