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#2528500 Wings sign Kevin Porter to 1-year, 2-way contract

Posted by kipwinger on 01 July 2014 - 03:28 PM

I want to rub this guy's head.  He must be one lucky S.O.B to get signed by Ken Holland as a UFA.  That's twice as rare as a unicorn, at least. 




#2528495 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by kipwinger on 01 July 2014 - 03:25 PM

Has anyone checked to make sure that Ken Holland isn't actually dead?  He might very well be dead...from the shame of not making a trade before the draft...and is still lying on his bathroom floor somewhere in suburban Detroit.  I say "bathroom floor" because he must surely have been looking at himself in the mirror saying "what happened to you?...You used to be so...so...so..." right before his heart exploded. 

 

This would explain why there were no moves today.  The fact that everyone hates hisf****** guts for destroying our team would explain why nobody has bothered to go looking for him. 




#2528489 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by kipwinger on 01 July 2014 - 03:19 PM

Trading a young asset like Jurco or Tatar for Myers is the very definition of a panic move.  I can't believe I have to explain why trading a cheap, up and coming, top six forward for a guy who's making 5.5 million on potential is a bad idea. 




#2528468 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by kipwinger on 01 July 2014 - 03:10 PM

I'm gonna try to rationalize this again.

 

Being a bubble team again, or maybe even missing the playoffs, means we're getting a good pick in what will be a great draft. Also, with some plugs not returning (fingers crossed), we get to see what some of these young players are really made of and where we really stand when half the team isn't injured (again, fingers crossed). Maybe one of them becomes a legitimate star. Maybe we end up with a surprisingly good team.

 

F***, I can't do this with a straight face.

 

Which would be totally awesome if that were what was going to happen.  But instead, he'll eventually get around to re-signing Quincey, Cleary, and Alfie and no kids will play...until half our old ass team is inevitably injured two weeks into the season. 

 

But hey, we're only about 9 months from the trade deadline...so that's something. 




#2528450 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by kipwinger on 01 July 2014 - 03:01 PM

I can't wait for Holland's interview... :confused:

 

I can't wait to chase him with a pitchfork and a torch.




#2528433 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by kipwinger on 01 July 2014 - 02:55 PM

Commie plot you say?

 

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I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!




#2528427 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by kipwinger on 01 July 2014 - 02:53 PM

 

Myers has had his issues, but he's not the first player to have issues. (And playing for the team and organization he plays for does matter in trying to establish how good he really is and how good he really could be.) You're talking up Tatar when he's had one good season in which he faced relatively easy competition and got tons of o-zone starts and pretty much had zero real expectations weighing on his shoulders. He and Jurco are still largely unproven, and their trade value may be at all-time highs.

 

I'm not saying I'd necessarily pull the trigger. Myers' contract scares me. But I'd consider it. I love Sproul and genuinely believe he's a future #3 or #2 or maybe even #1, but, realistically, he's at least a couple years from being a guy who can make a difference.

 

Absolutely right.  And we're not paying either one of them (Jurco and Tatar), 5.5 million dollars a season while they work on living up to their potential.  We're also not giving up good assets to get them either. 

 

Their potential costs nothing to nurture.  Myers costs a lot of cap space, and some real good assets. 




#2528373 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by kipwinger on 01 July 2014 - 02:39 PM

 

We need help on the back end. Myers has tremendous potential, which he's not going to come anywhere close to realizing on a s*** Sabres team. If we lose one of Tatar/Jurco, we still have Nyquist, Pulkkinen, Mantha, and one of Tatar/Jurco. And Datsyuk and Zetterberg. We could do a lot worse.

 

We could do a lot worse.  We could trade Tatar for potential and have Myers turn out to be a taller version of Brendan Smith.  Forever a bonehead. 

 

If I'm going to take a gamble on talent, I'll bet on Sproul.  He doesn't cost me anything to acquire. 




#2528367 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by kipwinger on 01 July 2014 - 02:34 PM

Oh, and by the way.  f*** Neil Sheehy.  His waiting game tactics would piss me off REAL quick if I were an NHL GM. 




#2528362 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by kipwinger on 01 July 2014 - 02:28 PM

 

Adam Proteau @Proteautype 34s

Deryk Engelland signs three-year, $8.7-million contract with Flames. I feel like he should be getting it on a comically oversized check.

 

 

Brian Burke:  TRUCULENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




#2528342 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by kipwinger on 01 July 2014 - 02:20 PM

 

Myers plays for the Sabres. A kid and a pick for someone who won the Calder Trophy and might very well regain that form in a new setting might be worth it. It'd have to be the right kid, though. I wouldn't move Mantha, probably not Nyquist either. Maybe Tatar. Maybe Jurco.

 

I'm not saying he's The Answer. But I've seen enough of him to feel he'd be worth a good look.

 

Tatar just score 19 goals as a rookie, and Jurco is a big, skilled, winger the likes of which we've dreamed of in Detroit for years.  And you would be willing to move them for a big goober who had a good year and hasn't done s*** since?  Barrett Jackman won a Calder too.  I wouldn't trade Tatar or Jurco for him, then or now. 

 

The only reason people consider it with Myers is because he's big, which might as well be a magic spell in the hockey world.  If Myers had all the same stats and accolades, speed and shot, and was 6'1 205, you'd never...ever...trade Tatar or Jurco for him. 




#2528278 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by kipwinger on 01 July 2014 - 02:04 PM

Helene St. James
@HeleneStJames

Looks like #RedWings may have to trade for d-man. Buffalo's Tyler Myers' big righty, but would cost Nyquist/Tatar/Jurco/Mantha & high pick.

 

 

If KH does this, I will lose myf****** mind.  Myers is garbage, overpaid, AND would cost good young assets. 

 

Just don't do anything to make it worse Kenny. 




#2528247 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by kipwinger on 01 July 2014 - 01:55 PM

 

You're assuming Kenny would actually pull the trigger on a trade of any kind.

 

Good point. 

 

Honestly, at this point I'd let Quincey go, I'd let Alfie go, and I'd fill every available spot with a kid.  At least keep the damage to a minimum.  Don't make it worse by making panic moves (see:  Samuelsson, Legwand, etc.).




#2528226 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by kipwinger on 01 July 2014 - 01:49 PM

 

Red Wings appear to be working the trade phones now to bolster their blueline. Lost out on Boyle, and apparently out on Niskanen.

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We're going to bleed for this.  Watch.  KH didn't want to overpay in the past?  Just wait and see what the going rate is for a top four defenseman now that every other one is off the market. 




#2528153 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by kipwinger on 01 July 2014 - 01:27 PM

Tough day so far, which is why if we get defense help its just gotta be threw a trade. 

 

As I've said already.  If KH calls you looking for a trade, you ask for the moon.  What other choice does he have?  Also, right after free agency is a terrible time to trade because the market is in equilibrium and you can't play sellers off of one another to reduce prices. 

 

If he trades now (as opposed to a week ago), he's a complete fool