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#2635123 Byfuglien - What would he cost?

Posted by kipwinger on 04 November 2015 - 10:22 AM

Acquiring Byfuglien in 2015 would be the equivalent of acquiring Rasheed Wallace in 2004.  First, it would give the team a little swagger.  A little moxie.  Second, it would be the most "Detroit" thing the Red Wings could do.  An intense, hulking, maniac representing an intensely maniacal city would be perfect. 


Let Zetterberg be the stoic, humble, face of the franchise.  Let Byfuglien be a wrecking ball.

#2635121 All purpose Mike Babcock thread

Posted by kipwinger on 04 November 2015 - 10:14 AM

How many Stanley Cups does Joel Quenneville have to win before people stop calling Babcock the "Best coach in the world"?  Six?  Seven?  Fifteen? 


This is the biggest issue I have with Babcock.  He's clearly a good coach.  Nobody would argue that.  But it's this asinine insistence, by his legion of acolytes, that he's "the bestest of the bestest" that drives mef****** crazy.


He's not.  There's not a single objective measure that indicates he's the best at anything.  Other people have more wins.  Other people have a higher win percentage.  Other people have more Cups. 

#2634799 Looks like Tyler Bertuzzi is a ****** like his uncle

Posted by kipwinger on 03 November 2015 - 10:02 AM

I wondered how long it would take someone to make the comparison to Todd.  Lil' Bert would have had to play like a complete cupcake in order to avoid someone, at some time, saying "see, he's just like his uncle...durrrrrrr". 


Aside from the fact that Todd Bertuzzi, for the vast majority of his career, wasn't a "dirty" player, there's also the fact that slewfooting a guy isn't even in the same ballpark as nearly killing a man on ice.  Jordin Tootoo charged, and boarded, guys all the time, yet nobody ever said "see, he's just like Todd Bertuzzi".  Why?  Because those things are nothing alike.  Niklas Kronwall elbowed and forearmed guys in the head for years, yet nobody said "see, just like Bertuzzi".  Why?  Because those aren't the same thing. But Tyler slewfoots a guy and gets the comparison.  Not because they're comparable (they aren't) but because it's easy to make half-assed comparisons of this sort. 


Tyler is going to be saddled by this absurd comparison for the balance of his career because A) his uncle (who he's nothing like) is Todd Bertuzzi, and B) because most people don't think about something for 2 seconds before they type (or say) it.  


What a shame. 

#2634028 10/30 GDT : Ottawa Senators 3 at Red Wings 1

Posted by kipwinger on 30 October 2015 - 09:55 AM

Tonight the Wings start turning it around.  Tonight the Wings win 3-1 on the backs of Tatar, Nyquist, and Abdelkader. 




#2633940 Byfuglien - What would he cost?

Posted by kipwinger on 29 October 2015 - 03:00 PM

Again, the standard payment for a good player on an expiring contract is a roster player, prospect, and pick.  With the quality of each depending on the value of the other.  The likelihood of giving up two roster players is small too.  Since the kind of guys you'd want, teams aren't giving up, and the kinds of guys they'll give up aren't the kinds you want. 


Aside from the odd "hockey trade", which rarely happens with expiring contracts, you're pretty much always going to see prospects and picks as the center pieces of trades for good players.  I'd especially expect this to be so in Buff's case because Winnipeg is seemingly stacked with NHL talent (other than a goalie).  Seems like they'd be after young guys and not two or three forwards that they don't have a need, or place, for. 

#2633919 Byfuglien - What would he cost?

Posted by kipwinger on 29 October 2015 - 11:52 AM

I'd keep him on defense too.  He's got more value there.  Guys who can score 50 points from the back end are incredibly rare. If you want a power forward and you're looking to trade with Winnipeg, get Ladd.  He's awesome as hell and fits the bill. 

#2633901 Byfuglien - What would he cost?

Posted by kipwinger on 29 October 2015 - 11:27 AM

No, we couldn't get him for that.  You'd probably have to give a good roster player and a mid level prospect and a high 2nd, or a mid level roster player and a high level prospect and a 1st.  Byfuglien is a very good player, you don't get guys like that for a fourth line winger and a young guy who hasn't (so far) panned out. 

#2633887 Is Dylan Larkin a lock to stay in the NHL beyond 9-games?

Posted by kipwinger on 29 October 2015 - 11:01 AM

Larkin now back with Zetterberg and Abby.  Tatar with Nyquist and Sheahan.  We've now seeing Tatar paired with Nyquist and/or Pulkkinen on a line with Richards, Larkin, and Sheahan.  It keeps not working.  Maybe the difference really is the center (it isn't).  Or maybe its the winger combinations (it is). 

#2633811 Jeff Blashill = Dave Lewis 2.0 / Coaching Change

Posted by kipwinger on 28 October 2015 - 03:31 PM

For context's sake.  Jon Cooper was 5-8-3 in his first 16 NHL games.  It takes a second for new coaches to find their groove with the team.  Can we maybe give it af****** minute?

#2633809 All Purpose "Ovechkin is Awesome" Thread

Posted by kipwinger on 28 October 2015 - 03:22 PM

Crosby isn't on a downward trend.  Any more than Ovechkin was on a downward trend a couple years ago when his points dipped.  Crosby is the very best player in the world.  As much as I love Ovie, and I do, he's not better than Crosby.  Nobody is. 

#2633805 Roster Moves by the Wings

Posted by kipwinger on 28 October 2015 - 03:17 PM

I think he would improve the entertainment value just like a guy like Biznasty would. We are talking about fourth liners here they aren't tasked to improve the team that's usually the job of the top 6 guys, top 4 defenders.


Sure.  I don't disagree.  But I'm just interested in your priorities.  We're having a discussion about roster moves that would improve the team's dismal start to the season, and you've recommended two guys who you readily admit won't make the team a bit better.  But will make them more entertaining when they lose.  Which is fine.  Your opinion after all. 


I've actually always believed that you'd rather lose with enforcers than win with euros.  This just sort of confirms it. 

#2633801 Roster Moves by the Wings

Posted by kipwinger on 28 October 2015 - 03:00 PM

So, just to be clear, you don't think he'd improve the team but you do think he'd make losing more entertaining? 

#2633796 Roster Moves by the Wings

Posted by kipwinger on 28 October 2015 - 02:54 PM

You don't honestly think Mike McKee would make our team better do you?  I mean, no b.s., you REALLY think that?

#2633626 10/27/15 - Carolina Hurricanes vs. Detroit Red Wings - TACKY Mad Libs

Posted by kipwinger on 27 October 2015 - 08:46 PM

We throw the puck away CONSTANTLY.

#2633615 10/27/15 - Carolina Hurricanes vs. Detroit Red Wings - TACKY Mad Libs

Posted by kipwinger on 27 October 2015 - 08:41 PM

I hate Pulkkinen and Tatar together!

Kindl and Jurco look good tonight though.