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#2607985 Prospect Tourney in Traverse City renamed after Matt Wuest

Posted by kipwinger on 15 May 2015 - 01:30 PM

Very classy move. This speaks volumes about the decency of the organization, but also about the profound impact that social media, the internet, non-traditional information outlets, and data oriented analysis have had on the sports landscape.  Only a short time ago, a guy like Matt would have been considered a diehard fan, and nothing more.  Naming the Cup after him seems to suggest that someone like Matt can have a substantive impact on sports decision-makers, not because of his position within an organization, but because the quality of his work and his commitment to transparency and objectivity change the way average fans access and interpret information about their team. 


I don't think you can stress enough the importance that Matt had on our own organization.  I remember when Datsyuk and Zetterberg entered the league, nobody knew a thing about them.  Coming off years with the same core of guys, and suddenly we had these two new guys who really looked like they could play, and who came out of nowhere.  That could never happen now.  There's just too much demand for information about our drafting, prospects, and development.  Today Red Wings fans demand as much information about their team, at every single level, as any of the Canadian teams despite huge differences in the attention the sport in given in each country in traditional media outlets. That level of expectation, knowledge, and attention is the direct result of all the hard work Matt Wuest put into making a good product.


The name of the Matt Wuest Cup is well deserved.  Kudos. 

#2607970 Kronwall in the Playoffs

Posted by kipwinger on 15 May 2015 - 12:16 PM





#2607956 Babcock granted permission to talk to other teams

Posted by kipwinger on 15 May 2015 - 11:19 AM

Just heard the bozo on the mtl radio ... Tony marinaro rant off about how detroit is all mike Babcock and we'd be nothing without him and mrazek isn't even half as good as price (not even half? Haaaa) and how the habs have these amazing prospects

What a f***en joke man ... It's amazing how delusional some people are

Now after this I'm saying it now I don't want mike Babcock back ... F him ... It's been 10years , time for a change and bring on Blashill ... Knows all the kids , on the verge of winning 2 Calder cups , won't happen but if I were Kenny I'd say sarinara thanks and good luck

And to be honest I always thought Babcock was a tad overrated when we first had him ... Didn't like his face when he was with the ducks lol ... He won a cup with detroit yes. He also had hank and pav in there prime and lidstrom

2gold medals with team canada? Ya with hall of fame rosters

Had datsyuk and zetterberg from 2010-2015 from what ? Ages 29 and up? And did nothing since 09

Time to let Babs go


I don't think there's any need to undersell what Babcock has accomplished.  His career can't be tarnished.  He's a good coach, there's no two ways about it.


But it's not like our organization will fall apart if he leaves.  The hype surrounding the guy has just gone completely overboard since the second Gold Medal.  I'd laugh him out the door if he told me he wanted 5 million dollars a year.


In my opinion you need to ACTUALLY BE the best coach in the NHL if you want to get paid like it. 

#2607949 Kronwall in the Playoffs

Posted by kipwinger on 15 May 2015 - 10:52 AM

O god that means Blashil is the next Dave Lewis


Or Dallas Eakins.  Or Guy Boucher. 


Nevermind the fact that he's been a much more successful coach than any of them, no matter what level he's been at.  As long as it helps support that notion that Babcock is irreplaceable, Blashill might as well be the next Pierre McGuire. 


I can't stand all these efforts to run our guys down.  Because it's all a desperate attempt to come to terms with the fact that we've got a good team that's been underperforming.  Kronwall HAS to be less good than he is.  Tatar and Nyquist HAVE to top out as secondary players.  The defense HAS to suck.  Holland HAS to be cheap and incompetent.  Because if those things AREN'T true (note: they aren't) then that means we've got a pretty good team which has been underperforming.  And if THAT'S true, then Mike Babcock ISN'T a hockey messiah, who's getting every last piece of success out of a sinking ship. Instead, he's be the guy who keeps getting the same result regardless of the age, size, speed, toughness, skillness, etc. of his roster.  And that would make a lot of people wrong, wrong, wrong. 


And who likes to be wrong anyway? 

#2607945 Kronwall in the Playoffs

Posted by kipwinger on 15 May 2015 - 10:36 AM

Full potential? Is Kronwall the new Franzen already?


And Tatar and Nyquist are the new Hudler and Filppula.  It's science. 

#2607941 Babcock granted permission to talk to other teams

Posted by kipwinger on 15 May 2015 - 09:48 AM

My bold prediction...


If Babcock leaves, Blashill will win a Cup first (with Detroit). 

#2607715 Breaking News: Gordie Howe Int'l Bridge

Posted by kipwinger on 14 May 2015 - 11:09 AM

Probably the all time easiest bridge naming process in the history of bridges.


Hey Michigan, do you want to name a bridge after legendary Red Wing Gordie Howe?  Of course you do.


Hey Canada, do you want to name a bridge after legendary Canadian Gorie Howe?  Of course you do. 

#2607537 Babcock granted permission to talk to other teams

Posted by kipwinger on 13 May 2015 - 02:27 PM

Yeah, Feds was on the 03-04 Ducks that missed the playoffs after making it to the Finals the year before.


He didn't play heavy enough.

#2607518 Babcock granted permission to talk to other teams

Posted by kipwinger on 13 May 2015 - 12:57 PM

Holy cow...


Another person who dares to ask whether or not the hype surrounding Babcock isn't overblown to the point of absurdity.  Exactly one sports reporter, in two countries, actually took the time to sit down and determine (rather than just repeat over and over) whether Babcock is worth all the fuss. 



#2607516 Free agents this off season

Posted by kipwinger on 13 May 2015 - 12:50 PM

Those people didn't go on and on your 3 years coming up with excuses for weiss either

Ya weiss was the safer bet ... Go check out mlives article about whether or not we should buy him out ... He's no better ... Once again defending weiss

Pat myself on the back for that one lmao ... Also been praising mrazek since last year saying we should trade howard to improve our team cause the kids the real deal ... Funny how it all took was ken good playoff series for some to jump on board

Didn't bring it up cause like I said the only reason I bring up the weiss s*** is cause I see you in particular always making excuses for the guy

And yes I was wrong about clowe and clarkson, although I do think he'll be a lot better next season in Columbus .... But here's a little news flash for you ... Clowe and clarkson wasn't the first time I was wrong and it won't be the last

And I'm pretty f***en sure weiss wasn't the only blunder you've had


I agree.  Sometimes you get it right, and sometimes you get it wrong.  We all do. 


So maybe, just maybe, next time you get it right you could act a little more dignified about it instead of calling people "idiots" for not agreeing with you.  Or reminding everybody, over and over, that you were right about Weiss. 


Display a little more class when you're right, and nobody will go through all the effort of digging up all the things you were wrong about. 


Or don't.  And we'll revisit this same discussion in the future.  Something tells me I'll have no shortage of ways to make you look silly whenever you're getting a little too self righteous. 

#2607511 ECSF: Tampa Bay Crying Coopers vs. Montreal Complaining Canadiens

Posted by kipwinger on 13 May 2015 - 12:35 PM

I don't want him to win.  Why would I?  He's not a Red Wing, and I'm not in the business of idol worship.  Until he's working for Detroit again, screw that guy. 

#2607504 Free agents this off season

Posted by kipwinger on 13 May 2015 - 12:17 PM

Would I given him 4-5 per at the time? Yes but I never would of given him 7 years regardless of the at any term comment

If someone's starving and says boy I'd kill someone for some pizza right now does that then mean they'd kill someone ?

Anyways f*** all this s*** your just being a smart ass .... I could go around the 1000 pages and look for s*** you said that proved to be wrong but unlike you I'm not gonna waste my time

Yes I was wrong about clarkson and clowe and I never said I was always right ... And incase you didn't notice a lot of people were on board on signing clarkson


Sure, but those same people didn't go on and on, 3 years later, about how they "never liked the Weiss signing".  Which is the reason I, and not Number9, went through the 1000 pages of yhis forum to see how you really felt back in the summer of 2012.  Weiss was a safer bet than either of the two clowns you advocated signing. 


So while you can pat yourself on the back for being against that one, it only opens you up to criticism.  "I wouldn't have signed Weiss", you say, "because I would have been too busy making two deals which were much worse".  Well pin a rose on your nose.


It's like patting yourself on the back for not doing meth because you were too busy doing heroin. 

#2607489 Babcock granted permission to talk to other teams

Posted by kipwinger on 13 May 2015 - 10:59 AM

Can we all stop with the political discussion.  I know that nobody means any harm, but this isn't really the place for it. 

#2607479 ECSF: Tampa Bay Crying Coopers vs. Montreal Complaining Canadiens

Posted by kipwinger on 13 May 2015 - 08:57 AM

Jon Cooper...the most interesting man in hockey.


#2607370 Carcillo speaks out on Montador's death and mental health issues

Posted by kipwinger on 12 May 2015 - 03:37 PM

If it makes you feel better I read it as a poop joke


So did I, but I try not to indulge her.  It only encourages that sort of behavior.