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#2556958 Where were team-mates on the Smith headshot

Posted by kipwinger on 15 December 2014 - 10:36 PM


So if there's a brawl during a Wings game this year and the fans are into it, are you going to come here and post about how boring, stupid and pointless it all was?  Or are you going to chant and be entertained like everyone else?  


You're right.  I'll order another Miller Light and yuck it up with all the other low brow dips***s.  Because it's obvious how interested I am in agreeing with the crowd. 


Afterward I'll head home and jack off to all the pass interference calls I missed on Monday night football, because penalties are totally awesome bro!

#2556955 Where were team-mates on the Smith headshot

Posted by kipwinger on 15 December 2014 - 10:07 PM


McGrattan and Engelland will make a man out of him yet.  


Wouldn't McGrattan need to spend more than 6:30 minutes with him per night to have any sort of impact at all?  I literally spend more time on the toilet per day than Brain McGrattan does playing hockey on game night. 

#2556951 Where were team-mates on the Smith headshot

Posted by kipwinger on 15 December 2014 - 09:51 PM

Yeah because the direction the game is going is so much more fun to watch.


Lets take the action out of every sport. Then we will be left with a bunch of under sized pansies passing flowers to each other.  


I like how in your mind "the action" of hockey and penalties are the same thing.  You want the league to leave game misconducts alone, so that you can enjoy the "action".  Lol.  Nevermind what happens between the whistles, that s***'s boring.  The real stuff comes after the play is dead.  And one day, if we're really lucky, all the fun stuff about hockey will happen after the game is completely over.  Then we can just watch Dan Carcillo and Zac Rinaldo beat the s*** out of each other in the parking lot.  What a sport that will be. 

#2556888 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by kipwinger on 15 December 2014 - 01:29 PM

He's more like Kirk Maltby.


Not really.  He's a little bit like Maltby in attitude, but his skill set is almost entirely like Draper.  Both Draper and Glendening are/were matchup defensive centers, with excellent faceoff and penalty killing capabilities. 


The only thing Maltby and Glendening have in common is that they're both pretty big douchebags lol.  They love chirping dudes, being quasi-dirty, and facewashing guys. 


On second thought, Glendening is a Maltby/Draper love child.  A perfect combination of the two. 

Yandle is clearly the best of the three but Green is the best option for Detroit in my opinion...



#2556881 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by kipwinger on 15 December 2014 - 01:19 PM

I think the biggest reason the Wings were so outmatched against the Bruins last year in the playoffs was because we didn't have Ericsson playing.


I agree.  The year before he was a monster against Chicago.  He was all over Toews and I recall him absolutely decimating Bickell along the boards as well.  People always harp on stay at home guys until they're gone.  Did it with Stuart, do it with Ericsson. 

#2556870 Oilers schedule presser tomorrow

Posted by kipwinger on 15 December 2014 - 12:53 PM

Who's the most relieved man in Canada right now? 



#2556862 Where were team-mates on the Smith headshot

Posted by kipwinger on 15 December 2014 - 12:28 PM


The problem I have your argument is your assuming that would be our feelings.


I do believe it is a heated topic if fighting belongs in our game. I for one do not think its necessary part of the game but I there are tones of other thread I could make that statement in.


I would have not been upset if it was the other way. With all the evidence of what head trauma does to athletes, this needs to be stopped. Boxing and UFC are sports that is only about fighting has rules against someone that a disadvantage. 


I agree with your position on fighting, but I don't really want to make his a pro vs. anti fighting thread. 


And you're right, I am assuming people would react differently.  That's because in all my life, I've never known a sports fan who was ok with with a questionable referee decision if said decision wasn't in their teams' favor.  Occasionally fans will begrudgingly accept a refs' decision if it's too obvious to ignore, or else the outcome of the decision is inconsequential.  But if it matters at all, every fan will always take their teams' side.  That's what being a fan is all about.  So if Smith is winning it's "let em' go ref" and if he's losing it's, "they need to get involved earlier". 


Same with penalties.  Think about it.  People ***** and moan about the refs CONSTANTLY on this site, but conveniently leave out the part about how the Wings get more powerplays than almost every other team in the league.  Pretty mum on that one, because it helps us out. 

#2556850 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by kipwinger on 15 December 2014 - 11:51 AM

The emergence of Sheahan and Glendening has, unfortunately, made Helm the tradable asset.  If he, prospect (fwd not named Larkin or Mantha) and a pick would get us, Green, Myers, Yandle, etc... then it's a no brainer.  If the rumor is true, just a 2nd rounder for Green, it should be done today. Then they could also acquire Yandle for a trade package.  That would cause a huge logjam next season though, an even worse when the kids are out of options.  Jensen, Sproul, Oullet, Marchenko, Backman...sheesh, we got a lot of good prospects on D.  We'd have to dump K, Q and possibly Ericsson.  I could also see Smith being put in a trade package.


I agree with some of what you're saying, but I disagree on a few points which I'll describe in more detail after the jump.




Ok, glad you're still with me. 

1.  Tyler Myers isf****** horrible.  Can we please stop talking about him like he's in the same class as these other guys?  If Ken Holland traded ANY of our good assets for a guy with SEVEN points on the season, he should be drawn, quartered, sewn back together, and drawn and quartered again.  Also, Myers doesn't even really fill a need anymore considering how we run our new powerplay.  In a single point powerplay (as opposed to two point men) the guy in back (defenseman) must be able to skate (since he's the only one consistently monitoring the blue line).  Hence why Chara was moved off Boston's powerplay point in favor of Krug.  He can't skate (quickly).  Neither can Myers. 


2.  We can't afford Yandle and Green.  That's almost 12 million dollars in cap that we can't really afford to take on.  It would need to be one or the other.  Also, ignoring the cap hit, I still wouldn't want both of them as you'd have a whole bunch of redundancy in terms of skill set.  If you acquired both you'd have one of Yandle, Green, or Kronwall sitting on the bench too often to make a difference offensively (especially on the powerplay).  One or the other, but not both. 


3.  Ericsson is probably not going anywhere for a long time, and we should all be thankful.  If our defense was some combination of Kronwall, Yandle, Green, Smith, Dekeyser, and those kids, they'd get eaten alive in the playoffs.  You still need big bodied, stay at home defenders in this league, and Ericsson is probably one of the most underrated ones in the league.  Kindl can go, Quincey can go, and (if Babs' use of Ouellet over Smith has shown) Smith could theoretically go.  But Ericsson isn't going anywhere. 

#2556844 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by kipwinger on 15 December 2014 - 11:01 AM

I have no problem with Darren Helm...as a third line center.  I think in that role he's got a comparative advantage over almost every other third line center in the league.  I also think, in that role, he can take on more defensive responsibility (which he seems good at), thus allowing us to exploit matchups. 


Where I don't like Darren Helm, as should be obvious, is on a scoring line wing.  Sure he can be made to look decent there (Ian White could be made to look decent on a top defensive pairing too), but that obscures the fact that his talents are better utilized elsewhere, and somone else (who has the skill set needed to be a top six winger) could be slotted in that spot for maximum efficiency. 


But what do I know?  I'm as wrong about the roster as I am right most of the time.  Nevertheless, I'll beat the drum for moving Helm, not because I don't like him, but because he's redundant on this team and we've got a couple of needs to fill to be a true Cup competitor (in my opinion).

#2556792 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by kipwinger on 14 December 2014 - 06:59 PM



carry on


I knew you'd like it.  I was waiting for your inevitable comment lol. 

#2556780 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by kipwinger on 14 December 2014 - 03:51 PM

No need to trade either of them.  Almost every team in the league asks for top young talent, and almost nobody trades it.  There's a reason why guys like Stafford, Stewart, Fleishmann, Boyes, Perron, etc. are the names being rumored for trade.  Because those are the kinds of guys teams trade.  Not their 23 year old future top sixers.  Teams can ask all day for Sheahan and Jurco, but they're not going anywhere.  Doesn't mean we don't have valuable pieces for trade though. 

#2556759 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by kipwinger on 14 December 2014 - 01:30 PM


Yandle and Boedker are super overrated. Yandle is Rafalski without the benefit of the RH shot, and Rafalski was not exactly always loved around here. And Boedker is suddenly being super overrated around the league just cause he's available and fans wanna see moves made IMO. He's not at all good defensively, like a bigger Hudler.


I think the deal makes us better in the O-zone but hurts us slightly in the D-zone, even with the addition of Yandle. We don't gain much physicality in the deal either. It's like trading softies for softies, but we give up a bit of our future too. I say no.


A couple of points I'd make in response.  Despite the fact that Rafalski wasn't exactly loved around here, anybody who still doesn't see how valuable he was to the team is nuts.  Yandle would be too.  Secondly, Boedker is noted for his two way play, I'm not sure where you're getting that from?  AND he's capable of putting up points.  Finally, I think we get (marginally) more physical in the sense that A) Yandle is more fiesty than any of our d-men and fights (rarely, but on occasion), B) Boedker is physical in the same way that Helm is, plus he's quite a bit bigger and heavier, C) trading Andersson would get Callahan in the lineup, and he's more physical than anybody on our team. 


And really, what are we losing?  Helm?  Franzen?  Neither of them are particularly strong this season, and I'd be happy to move them plus picks and prospects for two 50 pts. players in their twenties (not exactly mortgaging the future by trading a 22 year old Pulkkinen for a 24 year old Boedkker). 

#2556754 12/13 GDT : Red Wings 1 @ Maple Leafs 4 *MOD WARNING POST 198*

Posted by kipwinger on 14 December 2014 - 01:11 PM


I don't mind trusting in Holland, but isn't that kind of a stretch? Yzerman's put together a ludicrously deep team (for a cap era team) that's going to be competitive for a long time. He got Bishop for nothing. He got Garrison for nothing. He flipped Quincey for a first-round pick. He turned the impossible MSL situation into Callahan, a first-round pick, and a second-round pick. He found Johnson. He has Palat and Kucherov, and Drouin, and Hedman, and crazy organizational depth at the goalie position (though, Nabokov was definitely a "You serious, bro?" signing) (though, he's an upgrade over Lindback). Stralman and Boyle were great signings. Flip's been huge for them. Stamkos is a pretty good hockey player. John Cooper - perfect fit. Cutting ties with Salo was the right call, one Holland probably wouldn't have made, because loyalty and veteran leadership and right-handed shot and depth and all that.


Losing Panik hasn't hurt them one bit. Yzerman knows what he's doing.


We'll eat those nancys in the playoffs.  Steven Stamkos wants nothing to do with a steady diet of Luke Glendening.  Nothing. 

#2556576 12/13 GDT : Red Wings 1 @ Maple Leafs 4 *MOD WARNING POST 198*

Posted by kipwinger on 13 December 2014 - 08:33 PM

I'm not sure, but is Petr Mrazek totally awesome or not?

#2556509 NHL Mumps Outbreak

Posted by kipwinger on 13 December 2014 - 07:13 PM

In Ontario every child is supposed to get the MMR vaccine at age 1 and at age 4 years. Its free too.


That's because your commie country has commie healthcare.  I'd rather stand on a pile of mumps riddled children than sacrifice the sacred bond between my money and the multi-national insurance companies who provide ever more expensive, and barely adequate, insurance. 


But off that subject. 


Sidney Crosby's a chode, am I right?