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#2573675 Zetterberg leaves after 2nd Period; "upper body injury"

Posted by kipwinger on 23 February 2015 - 01:57 AM

 I believe the NFL has a much larger issue at hand with brain trauma/debilitating injuries/prescription med abuse/domestic abuse than the NHL.

 

The HBO special on the Chicago Bears 1985 Super Bowl team is the tip of the iceberg.

 

I don't feel qualified to say whether one sport is worse than the other with regards to causing brain injuries.  They both demonstrably have a serious issue with it.   I do, however, feel that ANY sports league should absolutely prioritize the health and safety of their players.  One easy way to do that, in hockey, is to take unnecessary (and avoidable) hits to the head out of the game.  And one very easy way to do that is to remove fighting by removing the "so called" need for it...increase penalties for serious infractions to the point where players err on the side of caution. 

 

Caution.  The operable word.  Heaven forbid human beings in the 21st Century learn how to enjoy sports where players must be cautious of one another. 




#2573672 Zetterberg leaves after 2nd Period; "upper body injury"

Posted by kipwinger on 23 February 2015 - 01:35 AM

Next time we should all throw flowers on the ice with love letters to Benn..Then KP and the likes would be happy.

 

Not as happy as this post just made me.  Because if you, and this drivel, are the opposition then I know I'm going to win.  I know that eventually my point of view will carry the day because the people arguing against me say things like this ^^^^^^^. 

 

If I had my way, you'd be the face of the pro-fighting crowd.  I'd put you on TV and let you write opinion pieces on TSN.  Then I'd follow your silly arguments with the brain trauma experts, and the analytics guys, and the former players with behavior issues, and the coaches who don't use enforcers. 

 

I'd let you say exactly what you (and Frank) always say, and then I'd let the sensible people say what they've got to say, and all the undecided people would laugh at how silly you sound.  How crazy your position is.  And you'd lose.  Because you're on the wrong side of history and your position isn't clever enough to overcome that deficiency. 

 

So keep saying what you say.  I mean it.  Keep trying to convince people with crap like this. 

 

And I'll win and you'll lose in no time at all.   




#2573664 Zetterberg leaves after 2nd Period; "upper body injury"

Posted by kipwinger on 23 February 2015 - 12:17 AM

 

But he can't hit or fight and he doesn't play hockey well enough to play on a higher line.  McGrattan does his role better than Andersson does his (whatever Andersson's role is)  


And while we're on this topic, I don't see anything wrong with Ericsson fighting.  Yeah, he can get hurt, but there are better D-men than him who occasionally drop the gloves.  He did the right thing stepping in.  I wish more of our players would do that. 

 

I don't want to say anything about fighting, because it seems like you guys have got that covered.  However, I do want to explain what Andersson's role it.  Andersson's role is to be good enough defensively, that he (and the two other fourth line guys who are also good defensively) can be matched up against higher opposing lines, so that our scoring lines can take advantage of the mismatch.  Which is exactly how Babs uses Andersson (and t he fourth line in general).  Traditionally people though of the fourth line as an energy line.  Our fourth line is a match up line.  And so Andersson's job is to be good enough, defensively, to play on a higher line (to use your phrase). 

 

My 2 Cents. 




#2573629 Zetterberg leaves after 2nd Period; "upper body injury"

Posted by kipwinger on 22 February 2015 - 08:21 PM

I'm not sure why we're having this debate again.  History has shown that being evermore violent in response to things we don't like ALWAYS works out well.  Absolutely tons and tons of examples when punching people has effectively helped folks achieve their objectives.  That has got to be the most idiotic thing a person can think. 

 

By comparison it makes GMRwings' "I like fighting because it's entertaining" argument both honest, and sensible. 

 

Can all the fighting people just use that argument?  That way we don't have to keep restating how intellectually bankrupt this "fighting deters rats" argument is.

 

I'll even help.  "For as long as I can remember, I (state your name here), have enjoyed fighting in hockey.  I find it entertaining and exciting.  As such, I am willing to tolerate the short and long term health risks that come along with it and believe players who engage in the sport should too."

 

At least then your position won't be so demonstrably invalided and your justifications so blatantly post hoc.




#2573614 Do Maple Leaf fans deserve better?

Posted by kipwinger on 22 February 2015 - 07:45 PM

@TheHockeyNews: THN's @Proteautype writes on Morgan Riellys mistake, casual misogyny and the empty idea of The Outrage Police: http://t.co/pvjiyGQNU7

 

"The notion of The Outrage Police is as hollow and disingenuous as it gets – and most importantly, it doesn’t make what Rielly said right. To repeat: he’s 20 years old and not a monster, but he said something you can’t say anymore, people let him know, and he said he was sorry. That’s the way the process is supposed to work. And the people who want to distract from that basic fact by focusing on anything other than the women who are telling us what he said was wrong are polar bears on an ever-shrinking rhetorical ice floe, letting out embarrassing death rattles as they fail to adjust to a world that’s rolling right over their prized prejudices.

 

Clearly, some men don’t like being confronted by voices other than those of their ever-forgiving frat boy buddies. Too bad. Whether they like it or not, this issue is another example of two tectonic cultural plates pushing against one another – and, as is always the case, the progressive, fair-minded plate is eventually going to push the ignorant, divisive plate deeper into the earth, precisely where it belongs."

 

Absolutely right.




#2573599 Zetterberg leaves after 2nd Period; "upper body injury"

Posted by kipwinger on 22 February 2015 - 06:25 PM

This is the dumbest debate I've ever seen. If punching people deterred anything then Benn wouldn't have hit Z as he'd already been beaten soundly by Ericsson. Soooo stupid.


#2572875 Do Maple Leaf fans deserve better?

Posted by kipwinger on 21 February 2015 - 03:35 PM

I'm not sure there really needs to be a debate about it.  You shouldn't belittle people, ever, if you can help it.  I'm sure Morgan Reilly isn't a total dick.  He just said a total dick thing.  

 

Secondly, we (as a part of the hockey community) absolutely SHOULD do our best to enforce social, cultural, and behavioral norms.  It's called civic responsibility.  I want my children, friends, family, and neighbors to be able to share in the sport I love...because I love it.  And none of them, ever, should feel excluded because of who they are or what they choose to do. 

 

However, I can't say that I'm surprised that Frank feels the way he does.  This is a guy who once said that people who don't like fighting in hockey are "homosexuals".  And regularly references "sissy hockey". 

 

Fortunately people like Frank here are in the minority.  Positivity, inclusion, and openness are winning.  And people like him are losing.  And one of these days everybody with that point of view will either be forced to come around, or else be exposed for the narrow minded, hateful, ethically bankrupt dinosaurs that they are. 




#2572687 Do Maple Leaf fans deserve better?

Posted by kipwinger on 20 February 2015 - 07:15 PM

Pete Carroll Maple Leafed the s*** out of that Super Bowl call.


#2572666 Do Maple Leaf fans deserve better?

Posted by kipwinger on 20 February 2015 - 05:13 PM

I'm not sure any Toronto Maple Leaf should be speaking in the diminutive about any other group of people.  Being a Maple Leaf is about as low as it gets.  You're about one rung up the ladder from the guy who mops the floors at a sperm bank.  




#2572625 TSN: Winnipeg, Toronto and Edmonton top NTC lists

Posted by kipwinger on 20 February 2015 - 01:30 PM

Which is frustrating when you spend all this time learning a language, are all excited to speak it, go to France, speak French to someone and they speak English back to you because they know you're American and they speak English better than you speak French.

 

Haha, that is exactly right.  I do it with Arabic all the time.  People in the Middle East are fluent in English and I try to struggle through my Arabic with them to hilarious results.




#2572603 TSN: Winnipeg, Toronto and Edmonton top NTC lists

Posted by kipwinger on 20 February 2015 - 10:45 AM

I travel constantly for my job, all over the world.  The only place I've ever been where people don't speak English regularly, and aren't really willing to try, is Russia.  It was difficult to find English speakers there.  However that did not, contrary to popular belief, stop me from eating, drinking, traveling around, ordering a cab, etc.  It just required marginally more effort than usual. 

 

Literally every other place I've ever been, not only DID people speak English...but they were dying to speak English to me.  Because here's the thing about learning another language, once you know it you want to use it.  That's the fun of it.  Nobody wants to spend all the time, effort, and frustration of learning another language only to never use it again. 




#2572598 TSN: Winnipeg, Toronto and Edmonton top NTC lists

Posted by kipwinger on 20 February 2015 - 10:22 AM

First it was all, "you can't even order anything if you don't speak French".  Which sounds horrible...so horrible as to be almost unreal.  Then, once he gets called out it's, "I'm just pointing out that it would be difficult". 

 

It's almost like he was using hyperbole, bordering on xenophobia and fear mongering, to make a point and then immediately backpedaling once it became clear that A) the point is invalid, and B) we're not as dumb as he thinks we are. 

 

Here's the thing Frank, every single place has some drawbacks.  Even your beloved Newport Beach for example.  The chances of you experiencing an earthquake, traffic congestion, smog, or urban decay in California are probably much greater than a millionaire being unable "to order anything because he doesn't speak French" in Montreal. 

 

Last time you were in the Los Angeles area did you not notice any of the substantial problems it has?  Or do you avoid going there (and don't plan to) because of all the Hispanic people speaking a language you don't understand?




#2572540 2/18 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Blackhawks 2 (SO. Yes, SO!).

Posted by kipwinger on 19 February 2015 - 07:47 PM

I absolutely love Patrick Kane.  What's not to like about a mulleted smartass who skates like a cheetah, drinks like a Russian, scores goals and wins Stanley Cups?  It's as if Joe Dirt were REALLY good at hockey. 




#2572520 2/18 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Blackhawks 2 (SO. Yes, SO!).

Posted by kipwinger on 19 February 2015 - 05:46 PM

I think the next time Kane does it Jimmy should just come out of the net and wipe him out. Let them award the goal. It would simultaneously give Kane pause the next time he faces Jimmy AND reignite a great rivalry.


#2572501 Getzlaf calls Ovechkin a diver, O says "I have hair"

Posted by kipwinger on 19 February 2015 - 04:14 PM

This conversation makes me think of David Lee Roth's "Yankee Rose" for some reason.  I like to think of my America as both a hot chick and a thinly veiled reference to snorting cocaine through a rolled up million dollar bill.