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#2568264 TANK IT! 2014-2015 Season

Posted by kipwinger on 04 February 2015 - 12:08 PM

Holland is god

 

I'm not expecting Ken Holland to be the creator of all time, space, matter, and energy.  Nor do I expect him to redeem my everlasting soul.  But I'll reserve judgement until all the facts have come to light. 




#2568261 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by kipwinger on 04 February 2015 - 12:00 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You two... I see what you're doing here!!  :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

Dude, work is a long and lonely time.  You can't expect me to not engage in shenanigans for 8 whole hours. 




#2568253 TANK IT! 2014-2015 Season

Posted by kipwinger on 04 February 2015 - 11:45 AM

LOL I've said I'm not expecting much this year and wouldn't have been surprised if they didn't do well. I've also said that I'll reserve judgment till some things are impossible. I know for myself what a joke is and what isn't I don't need you or some of the other "Holland is god and we pump the thread after every win with another 2,5 words posting" telling me about their definition of a joke , thanks. And guess freaking what if they make the playoffs I'll be positively surprised shocking I know..

 

"LOL I've said I'm not expecting much this year and wouldn't have been surprised if they didn't do well. I've also said that I'll reserve judgment till some things are impossible."

 

Translation...

 

Saying "I'm not expecting much" allows me to say "I told you so" if we don't do well in the playoffs.  But saying "I'll reserve judgement" allows me to not be totally wrong if we go ahead and do well in the playoffs.

 

Conclusion...

 

Sitting on the fence, while uncomfortable to look at, still appeals to a particular type. 




#2568251 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by kipwinger on 04 February 2015 - 11:38 AM

Why do we need a puck mover when we already have Kronwall and Brendan Smith???

 

Because one offensive defenseman isn't enough?




#2568226 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by kipwinger on 04 February 2015 - 10:48 AM

 

Agreed that Prust hits him in the side. But Myers doesn't see him coming. And not because Myers is the worst player ever. And, like I said, the only reason it wasn't in the head is because Myers is basically Slender Man.

 

I wasn't using the video to illustrate that A) Myers is the worst, or B) that Prust isn't dirty.  I was using in response to Dabura's "statement"...um...statement.  I'm not exactly sure how it's a "statement" to get dominated by dudes a tenth your size for two periods, and then finally act like a big boy in the third after you've given up two goals and been beaten like a mule.

 

If I wanted to prove Myers was the worst, I'd direct you to his Jonathan Ericsson like numbers or his league worst corsi.  If I wanted to prove that Brandon Prust wasn't dirty, I'd be stupid. 




#2568219 All Purpose Grand Rapids Griffins Thread

Posted by kipwinger on 04 February 2015 - 10:31 AM

Andreas Athanasiou to be back in a week, per Blashill.

 

http://kuklaskorner....eat-skate-notes




#2568215 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by kipwinger on 04 February 2015 - 10:26 AM

Ok, blind side hit from behind that knocked him over.  It was more his teammates fault by not warning him that Prust was on him.  Again, he got knocked down from behind.  None of that play is indicative of how good or bad Myers is. But then again, cherry pickers will cherry pick.

 

I don't need to make a case for how bad Tyler Myers is.  His stats already do that for me.  He's apparently class president of the Brendan Smith school of puck moving defensemen. 




#2568048 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by kipwinger on 03 February 2015 - 05:05 PM

Franson's having a great year point-wise (29 in 49 games), but the most he's managed in any previous season is 33pts. I'm not really ready to bank him for an automatic 50 pts. I would  go up to 5 mill for him, though. With E at Q at 4.25 it would fit into the team pay grades, I'd say. Also, I think we were prepared to pay Niskanen's 5.75 and he had similar stats. (he has 17 pts this year - Good that we didn't land him) 

 

Side note: I just saw that the Leafs originally got Franson with Matthew Lambardi for Brett Lebda and Robert Slaney. Slaney never play in the NHL and Lebda played 30 games before being banished to the minors. That's a hell of a trade for The Leafs.

 

He had 29 pts. in 45 games in 2013 before taking a step back a year ago.  His production this year is putting him right back on that same track.  If I'm betting, I'd say last years' regression was the exception, and the 25-30 pts. in 40-45 games is the rule.  Especially on a more offensively capable team like ours.  But that's me.  I agree though, always a risk.  But very few defensemen luck their way into 50 pts, especially on a bad team.  Given his age, past performances, and current production (for a bad team), my guess is he's more James Wisniewski than Matt Niskanen. 




#2568043 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by kipwinger on 03 February 2015 - 04:24 PM

You all are way too sensitive and looking too hard for a reason to jump on someone...

 

 

....The Cristal Flute has spoken.... Cristal is Champagne and a Flute is a Champagne glass...the sarcasm in that entire post is the alcohol is talking...Cristal Flute is a play on Crystal Ball....no? Yes? I am sad I needed to explain that to you guys.  But just keep trying to knock on someone. That's always fun too.

 

You're right.  How dumb we are for not figuring out that Cristal Flute = Champagne Glass = The Alcohol is talking = I don't really mean what I'm saying.  Apparently when it comes to conspicuous ways of relaying your thoughts, you're the master. 

 

And a separate apology for not being able to discern between this fake trade proposal, and all the other "real" times you've advocated trading Kindl and Quincey for guys much better than they are. 




#2568032 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by kipwinger on 03 February 2015 - 02:42 PM

I want Holland to trade for only people I like, and only trade away guys I don't.  Is that too much to ask?




#2568019 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by kipwinger on 03 February 2015 - 12:59 PM

JVR too, please! :)

 

We should get Dave Dombrowski to teach Kenny how to trade rape other teams.  He's magic at trading guys. 

 

"Hey, we want Dontrell Willis, but if you'll throw in that Cabrera guy we'll give you an extra good prospect!"

 

"Hey, we want Cody Franson, but if you'll throw in that Van Riemsdyk character we'll give you and extra good prospect!"




#2568014 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by kipwinger on 03 February 2015 - 12:51 PM

5 million for a guy that'll put up 50 pts. from the back end this year?  Yep.  I don't care about his supposed defensive lapses.  I view it the same way I did the Wisniewski contract.  50 pts. defensemen don't grow on trees, and certainly don't come along too often at the prime of their careers. 




#2568008 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by kipwinger on 03 February 2015 - 12:18 PM

And you'd have to think that the price would be higher for the Wings, being an inter division trade, and just the fact that its the wings and the leafs....

 

I think it's a concern, but probably not as much as you'd think.  Teams do it regularly.  If the return package is good, it's good.  Kesler to Anaheim.  Vanek to Montreal.  You've got to figure, Franson is an FA and can sign anywhere (including Detroit) so might as well get the best package regardless of destination.  Besides, they're about to enter a full blown rebuild.  They won't be competing with us anytime soon so why worry about Cody Franson hurting you down the line?




#2567998 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by kipwinger on 03 February 2015 - 11:56 AM

He'd keep a not as talented NHL ready defenseman down in Grand Rapids... So what? I'd play Franson over any defenseman in Grand Rapids right now and I'd trade any of them in favor of Franson except for Sproul...

 

He's not a great 2/3 defenseman? Again, I'll ask you, do you actually watch Franson play? Like I've said before, I wanted him since his days in Nashville, and I still watch a ton of him now, because my girlfriend is a Leafs fan... He is a really good second pairing guy. How many defenseman in the league put up similar numbers and are better defensively? Not many, and the guys that are, are the elite of elite.

 

He is worth much more than a second round pick, even as a rental. If we could somehow be sure that he would re-sign, I'd give much more than that for him. He is better than over half the defenseman on our team right now, and you don't want him for a second round pick? But yet you're willing to drain our prospect pool, give up roster players and picks for Ekman-Larsson?

 

Franson is the exact type of defenseman this team needs. Get it done Kenneth!

 

But lets get down to brass tacks...would you trade Smith for him?  Or would your head explode at the thought lol?




#2567994 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by kipwinger on 03 February 2015 - 11:43 AM

He'd either be a rental or keep an NHL ready d in GR.
He's not a great 2/3 d, he's putting up points but isn't good in his own end. Babcock has no room for that type of player. Unless he changes how he plays Babcock would have him playing 12 minutes a night.

 

You didn't answer the question, you wouldn't trade a 2nd round pick for Cody Franson?