I frequent hockeysfuture quite often for articles but as far as their stats and bios go, I think they're terrible. hockeydb is great for NHL players info but I have found it to be very sketchy when it comes to minor leaguers and European players. griffinscentral is another good spot for articles but I find it to be very amateur, and considering they haven't updated Landon's profile picture from his days with the Red Deer Rebels, I think it's a safe bet that they haven't updated his bio either... redwingscentral was by far the best for all Red Wings prospects related info. I miss them...
Either way, I'll trust the two official team sites over any of the others. Also, I can't imagine Bob Kaser not knowing the information on any of Griffins players that he deals with on a daily basis.
No worries. It's not that big a deal, I was just curious to know where you were getting the information.
Either way, I do believe Ferraro still has the potential to be a decent grinder at the NHL level. I hope he makes it someday.
When you google his name, google provides a short summary profile on the right side of the screen and it has him listed as 170 lbs. That's where I saw it, but clearly that's not a good source.
What did Henrik Zetterberg do to deserve that? Honestly though, I like those with the exception that I think Gus and Z should play together, like Tatar and Pav should. I don't know what to do with either Weiss or Franzen at this point -- one probably deserves a shot at a larger role and the other really just doesn't fit anywhere.
I agree. Honestly I think both could be traded without too much harm done to the team, but I don't see it happening.
With regard to Nyquist, while I agree that he's good with Zetterberg, I don't think he's been very good at all lately. Teams are checking him tight and not giving him any room to make plays. I think he'd benefit from the mismatch on the third line. Plus, it's not like Franzen and Z don't play well together. They have for years. And I'm convinced that Weiss will flourish if moved back to center. He sees the ice really well, is a strong passer, and can makes plays quickly. Put him with a couple of proven guys and I think the line will (collectively) do some damage.
This thread started with so much promise. So, so much promise.
"It seems like a lifetime, or at least a Main Era -- the kind of peak that never comes again...Maybe it meant something. Maybe not, in the long run... There was madness in any direction, at any hour...You could strike sparks anywhere. There was a fantastic universal sense that whatever we were doing was right, that we were winning...And that, I think, was the handle -- that sense of inevitable victory over the forces of Old and Evil. Not in any mean or military sense; we didn't need that. Our energy would simply prevail. There was no point in fighting -- on our side or theirs. We had all the momentum; we were riding the crest of a high and beautiful wave. So now, less than five days later...you can almost see the high-water mark -- that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back."
Except Holland will never go after a Prust, Dorsett or Stewart because they fight. He doesn't care if they score goals and contribute as leaders somehow. If you fight, Holland and Babcock don't want you. Look how they ran Tootoo out of town because he actually fought. They want their 4th liners to be faceless jobbers who the fans don't care about.
If he ever reads your post and runs into you in public (or private), this is the look you'd get. Please choose your words carefully.
It should be pretty obvious by now that pictures of Brian McGrattan don't have the same visceral affect on me that they do on you. Although, I will say that it's fitting that you chose a picture of him doing something other than skating.
"...at this point Hudler will probably cost more or just as much as Franzen! So, get Franzensigned long term and let Hudler sign somewhere else. If he signs somewhere else for anywhere between 2.6 and 3.9 million, we WILL get a 1st and a 3rd round pick from that team. That there is more valuable than signing Hudler and letting Franzen walk. Hudler will more than likely get that 2.6 million. Get Franzensigned the front loaded way Zetterberg was, let Huds, McCarty, Chelios, Sammy walk and get Hossa signed to a similar Zetterberg contract. Must trade Filpulla in ANY scanario so we can get that $3 million off the books. Filpulla should get us a 2nd round pick. At the very least a 3rd."
"Just as a few of us said a long time ago! Bye Bye Filppulla, Hudler & Sammy for sure! Hello HOSSA long term! Hudler with get at least the same somewhere so HELLO 1st, 2nd and 3rd round pick! Trade Flip for a 2nd and 3rd and lets go!"
"Quickly, I like Franzen but if he wanted to have to best available chance(s) to win Cups within those 11 years, he should've have signed a contract that had a cap hit more like $2.9M. This pretty much screws us for Hossa, unless he takes a HUGE, HUGE, HUGE discount to stay here OR he signs somewhere for 1 year OR takes another 1 year deal at that same discount, then comes back when Lidstroms contract is off the books. Of course if Lids wants to stay he MUST take a HUGE discont as well. Franzen just tied the hands if Holland and Holland allowed it to happen."
"Anyway, Hossa scored 40 goals for us, that is it. That is all his history will leave us. Luc Robitaille and Brett Hull were "Better" Red Wings than Hossa. Larry Murphy is a "Better" Red Wing than Hossa. Steve Duschene was more important to this team. For Gods sake, Keith Primeau meant more to this team!"
I wouldn't go around gloating. At best, your record on the Franzen/Hossa topic is flip floppy. At worst, you wanted Franzen re-signed (like he was) and you though Steve Duschene and Keith Primeau meant more to the Red Wings than Hossa did.
I'm of the opinion that a team can change drastically from one minor tweak, which is all I think we need. We don't need any major shake-ups and I'm sure you would agree on that, but we do have one glaring need, and we all know what that is. If we can upgrade our blueline, I think our team would look much different. I don't know what is going on with Ericsson again lately but he has single-handedly lost us a few games, and that has to change as well, or he needs to be demoted...
I think if we can add more offense to our defense we can compete with any of the top teams in the league. I'm still on the Mike Green train, although unfortunately, I think that's very unlikely to happen...
Of course, we're going to need to be healthy as well, and that includes getting Howard back as soon as possible.
I mean, obviously I'd like to see more offense from the back end. But as I said before, I don't see Holland parting with assets until the team proves that it can play (and win) consistently. I think the next 12-15 games are critical. First, because they're the games leading up to the trade deadline and we'll have a better idea of who's available (elsewhere as well as for Detroit). But also because we'll finally be playing a steady diet of high quality teams. If we s*** the bed against them, I don't see Holland doing anything. If we split (or heaven forbid, win a majority), I could see him being a little more likely to bring in some help. But this team has to prove itself before a smart GM like Holland is going to go out and spend valuable assets on a run they may not be able to make (even with the help).
Kip, what's up with all the doom and gloom lately? We are just a few points away from the top teams in the league. You compare a month of playing good hockey to a game of bad hockey, which also came right after the dreaded west coast trip. I know, we haven't exactly been lighting the league on fire lately, but I think it's also very clear that none of our players are playing at their highest level right now. Most of our goals against in the past few games have been on horrible giveaways, right in front of our net (Ericsson). I'm confident they (he) will get that cleaned up.
Overall, I don't think we have been that bad, just not finding ways to win games. We've been falling behind early in a ton of games lately, and like Babcock says, "catch-up hockey is losing hockey"...
I do still think we're a key piece or two away from being a legitimate contender, whether we get that piece(s), is up to Holland.
The only teams we've beat in a month are Buffalo, New Jersey, Ottawa, Edmonton, and Calgary. Seriously, we haven't beat a playoff bound team in a month.
And at some point we've got to stop with all this "we're not competing", "we're not playing our best hockey", "this group is better than that", "we need a 60 minute effort".
I'm not being negative just to be negative. But regardless of how many points you've got, to be a good team you've got to beat good teams. We aren't. Which makes me think all the points we've got are the product of a weak early season schedule, and not because we're that great.
Here's hoping Babs and the boys prove me wrong. I'd love to be. But to do that they've got to go at least .500 against playoff caliber teams.
Most games now a days the only time there is a fight is a cheap shot. Or to try and spark your team. Let's be honest, I'm not sure what the stat is but I know fighting is down this year. Goons are really not needed in the league anymore but to take fighting out completely is flat out stupid.
Who's "taking fighting out"? GMs are voluntarily waiving goons because they're useless. There is ZERO effort by ANYONE to "take fighting out". It's not like Gary Bettman is forcing teams to waive guys like Brandon Prust or Steve Ott because they occasionally fight.
If you fight once in a while and can play hockey, you get to keep your job. If you are a useless tub of s*** (read: McGrattan) then you hit the bricks. But that's because he's useless, not because someone is "taking fighting out" of hockey.