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#2483321 Official 2014 Olympic Hockey Thread (Admin warning #316)

Posted by kipwinger on 11 February 2014 - 09:57 AM

What's the point of picking a team in the Olympics if you aren't going to pick your national team?  That's literally the ENTIRE point of the Olympics.  Unless you're a German hockey fan and don't have a horse in the race, it's completely absurd to root against your country in an event which is specifically designed for nations to compete with one another.  I could understand not caring who wins, and only caring about seeing good games.  But that means that you would be just as happy to see your team win as any other.  But to actively hope another team is better than your national team makes no sense to me. 


Would you root against our home country's world junior team?  How about your hometown high school team?  Silly.

#2483014 2/8 GDT : Red Wings 2 at Lightning 4

Posted by kipwinger on 09 February 2014 - 08:25 AM

I don't know. Had the offense burried more of those chances, then a late goal like that wouldn't have mattered. Detroit cannot finish the game when they have the chance and that comes back to bite them in the third every time. Howard made one huge mistake in this game but made a few good ones to keep the score low.


Well according to our coach is was both the offense and the defense.  Apparently they didn't "compete hard enough" in front of the net and if he had just "won our battles" we'd have been ok. 


If only there was a guy who's job was to ensure that this team was competitive and create strategies for "winning battles".

#2483012 2/8 GDT : Red Wings 2 at Lightning 4

Posted by kipwinger on 09 February 2014 - 08:12 AM

Man alive, Jurco has kinda got a mean streak doesn't he?  He was relentless on the boards yesterday.  He looks like he's 12 years old, but he's hard on defensemen.   Ask Gudas. 

#2482560 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by kipwinger on 08 February 2014 - 01:51 PM

I want to be clear, I don't think Byfuglien is the right guy for this team.  Having said that, I think that the weight and fitness comments are a bit off base.  Here's a good article Puck Daddy did on the topic of Byfuglien's fitness..




Also, I'd have to imagine that all the goals he's scored paired with his two all-star appearances and pivotal role in a Stanley Cup championship should probably dispel any notion that his fitness is somehow a detriment to his ability to play hockey at an incredibly high level.

#2482438 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by kipwinger on 07 February 2014 - 08:57 PM

Nobody mentioning Chris Stewart?  I'd take him every day of the week.

#2481205 So what do we call the 26 - 15 - 21 line?

Posted by kipwinger on 04 February 2014 - 12:53 PM

The Shetaco Line.  Trademarked.

#2480906 2/3 GDT: Canucks 0 at Justin Abdelkader 2

Posted by kipwinger on 03 February 2014 - 09:29 PM

F*** yeah, they're talkin' to my boy Backes about the Olympics.  One man wrecking crew on his way to Sochi!

#2480893 2/3 GDT: Canucks 0 at Justin Abdelkader 2

Posted by kipwinger on 03 February 2014 - 09:21 PM

The six best Ryan Kesler tumbleweed gifs.  You're welcome everyone.



#2480579 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by kipwinger on 03 February 2014 - 12:15 PM


In no way am I saying Nyquist is a shut down defensive forward or Tatar is horrible defensively.  Tatar has gotten a lot better defensively and he works really hard. Both of the guys are learning so much from Z and it shows in their game. Personally I feel like Nyquist is the better all around player at this point. I think they will both be staples in the top 6 once Z and Pav are gone, if not before then as long as they aren't traded obviously. 


I don't think we need to trade either of them though. I would do a package of Smith or Ouellet, Jurco and a 1st, for a Dman but I'm weary of trading away young assets because I don't think we are a championship team this season anyway.


I know what you're saying, but two or three years from now when Nyquist, Tatar, Jurco, etc. are ready for a bigger role, Datsyuk, Z, Franzen, Kronner, etc. will be on the decline.  So it's a wash.  We'll be further away then than we are now.  Unfortunately that's what happens when you only develop two moderately decent top six forwards (Filppula and Hudler) in a decade, lose them both, and replace them with a 41 year old and a guy who's struggled through an injury.  We've got no bridge talent.  Nobody aged 26-30 that can score goals and win a game for you.  We've got a bunch of old guys, and bunch of young guys, and nothing in between except bottom sixers.  


Ken's got to decide whether he wants to win one more before our core guys get too old.  If so, trade some young guys and high picks for high quality support staff.  If not, sell everything that's not young or franchise for picks and let every bottom sixer and old guy walk in the offseason.

#2480556 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by kipwinger on 03 February 2014 - 11:19 AM

I predict that Kenny will answer some prayers and finally make a big splash at the deadline.


I then predict that all those LGWers that criticized him for "kicking tires", "liking his team", and sitting on his hands are going to absolutely loose their minds when he trades one of Tatar, Jurco, or Nyquist.


You are absolutely spot on with the second part.  Though I'm still skeptical that he'll make a move at all.

#2480551 Lines Thread

Posted by kipwinger on 03 February 2014 - 11:10 AM

Quincey makes mistakes, but he's been a lot better lately.
It seems like he's consistently the worst d man on the ice because we pay attention to him way more carefully.


He also logs harder minutes than Smith, Kindl, or Lashoff.  Say what you want about Quincey, but he never gets protected minutes, which exposes his weak points but also says a lot about how much Babs trusts those other three.

#2480548 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by kipwinger on 03 February 2014 - 11:05 AM

If we could create a package of any of these 4 and bring back a top 4 Dman I would be okay with it.


Jurco, Oullete, Quincey, Kindl, 1st, Anderrson.


No way do I want to give up Tatar or Goose. We barely score enough goals as it is. We don't need to trade away guys who have all but proven they can score 20+ goals a season.


Also, I have no idea why people would rather give up Goose over Tatar. Goose is the superior player, imo. More responsible defensively, has put up 2 less points than Tatar but in 16 less games. I don't wanna lose either but if I absolutely had to choose give me Goose. 


Nyquist is very good, but Tatar is better.  Tatar creates all his offense on his own.  Nyquist has superior linemates, more icetime, and more PP time (with better linemates again).  Look at his hatty last night, Zetterberg basically gift wrapped that one for him.  No reason to believe that Tatar wouldn't do the same with similar opportunites, since he's basically doing the same with third line minutes and two rookies. 


Also, Tatar does not play bad defense...and Nyquist is no shutdown defensive forward.  They both work extremely hard on defense (watch Tatar backcheck), but they're both too small to be effective right now.  I think everyone saying Nyquist is better defensively is just something people repeat for the sake of it.  Tatar gets back as often as any on the team at this point.

Vaneks going to a cup contender. (Pit Bos Ana St louis) one of those types.


Didnt anyone watch the game yesterday/ the super bowl? Defense wins championships! We need a top 2 dman!
At this point pur expendable assets are:


Aslong as were not getting rid of Goose,Tats,Jurco,Mantha or Oullette im good.


Well then don't set your sights too high on trade deadline day because if you're not willing to part with a good player, you're not going to get anyone back who's worth a damn.

#2480520 2/3 GDT: Canucks 0 at Justin Abdelkader 2

Posted by kipwinger on 03 February 2014 - 08:22 AM

Based upon the graphics for the GDT I can safely posit only one thing.  Riley Sheahan's head is roughly 3 times the size of Patrick Eaves' head.  Given their relative TOI lately, I can only assume that Babs has some sort of head size bias.

#2480475 The NHL reffing affecting the game

Posted by kipwinger on 02 February 2014 - 08:56 PM

There's obviously less penalties, however that's irrelevant to me seeing as how the real issue is inconsistency, accuracy, and timing which remains just as bad if not worse. Situational calls are so obvious it's painful. Nice condescension though.


You're right, that was pretty condescending.  I apologize to everyone.  I get a little frustrated with referee blaming, but that's not an excuse to be a d*ck.  My bad.

#2480267 2/2 GDT: Red Wings 5 at Capitals 6 (OT)

Posted by kipwinger on 02 February 2014 - 03:12 PM

Anybody else think there's a correlation between our team suddenly getting noticeably worse on defense and Brian Lashoff being taken out of the lineup.  Maybe we should consider putting him back in, ya know, because he's good at playing defense.