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#2562684 Franzen on IR

Posted by kipwinger on 12 January 2015 - 02:37 PM


I got a new sig idea "Johan Franzen, prooving Leftwinger right since Summer 2009..." :ninja:





Let's see what you actually said in 2009 shall we?


Here's what you said before Franzen signed his long term, front loaded, Zetterberg-like contract...http://www.letsgowin...franzen signed


"...at this point Hudler will probably cost more or just as much as Franzen! So, get Franzen signed long term and let Hudler sign somewhere else. If he signs somewhere else for anywhere between 2.6 and 3.9 million, we WILL get a 1st and a 3rd round pick from that team. That there is more valuable than signing Hudler and letting Franzen walk. Hudler will more than likely get that 2.6 million. Get Franzen signed the front loaded way Zetterberg was, let Huds, McCarty, Chelios, Sammy walk and get Hossa signed to a similar Zetterberg contract. Must trade Filpulla in ANY scanario so we can get that $3 million off the books. Filpulla should get us a 2nd round pick. At the very least a 3rd."

Here's what you said the day of the Franzen signing, in the "Franzen signs Extension" Thread...http://www.letsgowin...11-years/page-6


"Just as a few of us said a long time ago! Bye Bye Filppulla, Hudler & Sammy for sure! Hello HOSSA long term! Hudler with get at least the same somewhere so HELLO 1st, 2nd and 3rd round pick! Trade Flip for a 2nd and 3rd and lets go!"


And here's what you said one day after the Franzen signing...http://www.letsgowin...1-years/page-11


"Quickly, I like Franzen but if he wanted to have to best available chance(s) to win Cups within those 11 years, he should've have signed a contract that had a cap hit more like $2.9M. This pretty much screws us for Hossa, unless he takes a HUGE, HUGE, HUGE discount to stay here OR he signs somewhere for 1 year OR takes another 1 year deal at that same discount, then comes back when Lidstroms contract is off the books. Of course if Lids wants to stay he MUST take a HUGE discont as well. Franzen just tied the hands if Holland and Holland allowed it to happen."


And here's what you said a few weeks after Hossa signed with Chicago...http://www.letsgowin...go +fans +hossa


"Anyway, Hossa scored 40 goals for us, that is it. That is all his history will leave us. Luc Robitaille and Brett Hull were "Better" Red Wings than Hossa. Larry Murphy is a "Better" Red Wing than Hossa. Steve Duschene was more important to this team. For Gods sake, Keith Primeau meant more to this team!"




I wouldn't go around gloating.  At best, your record on the Franzen/Hossa topic is flip floppy.  At worst, you wanted Franzen re-signed (like he was) and you though Steve Duschene and Keith Primeau meant more to the Red Wings than Hossa did. 

#2562655 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by kipwinger on 12 January 2015 - 12:59 PM

I'm of the opinion that a team can change drastically from one minor tweak, which is all I think we need. We don't need any major shake-ups and I'm sure you would agree on that, but we do have one glaring need, and we all know what that is. If we can upgrade our blueline, I think our team would look much different. I don't know what is going on with Ericsson again lately but he has single-handedly lost us a few games, and that has to change as well, or he needs to be demoted...


I think if we can add more offense to our defense we can compete with any of the top teams in the league. I'm still on the Mike Green train, although unfortunately, I think that's very unlikely to happen...


Of course, we're going to need to be healthy as well, and that includes getting Howard back as soon as possible.


I mean, obviously I'd like to see more offense from the back end.  But as I said before, I don't see Holland parting with assets until the team proves that it can play (and win) consistently.  I think the next 12-15 games are critical.  First, because they're the games leading up to the trade deadline and we'll have a better idea of who's available (elsewhere as well as for Detroit).  But also because we'll finally be playing a steady diet of high quality teams.  If we s*** the bed against them, I don't see Holland doing anything.  If we split (or heaven forbid, win a majority), I could see him being a little more likely to bring in some help.  But this team has to prove itself before a smart GM like Holland is going to go out and spend valuable assets on a run they may not be able to make (even with the help). 

#2562644 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by kipwinger on 12 January 2015 - 12:23 PM

Kip, what's up with all the doom and gloom lately? We are just a few points away from the top teams in the league. You compare a month of playing good hockey to a game of bad hockey, which also came right after the dreaded west coast trip. I know, we haven't exactly been lighting the league on fire lately, but I think it's also very clear that none of our players are playing at their highest level right now. Most of our goals against in the past few games have been on horrible giveaways, right in front of our net (Ericsson). I'm confident they (he) will get that cleaned up.


Overall, I don't think we have been that bad, just not finding ways to win games. We've been falling behind early in a ton of games lately, and like Babcock says, "catch-up hockey is losing hockey"... ;)


I do still think we're a key piece or two away from being a legitimate contender, whether we get that piece(s), is up to Holland.


The only teams we've beat in a month are Buffalo, New Jersey, Ottawa, Edmonton, and Calgary.  Seriously, we haven't beat a playoff bound team in a month.  


And at some point we've got to stop with all this "we're not competing", "we're not playing our best hockey", "this group is better than that", "we need a 60 minute effort". 


I'm not being negative just to be negative.  But regardless of how many points you've got, to be a good team you've got to beat good teams.  We aren't.  Which makes me think all the points we've got are the product of a weak early season schedule, and not because we're that great. 


Here's hoping Babs and the boys prove me wrong.  I'd love to be.  But to do that they've got to go at least .500 against playoff caliber teams. 

#2562629 McGratton on waivers

Posted by kipwinger on 12 January 2015 - 11:51 AM

Most games now a days the only time there is a fight is a cheap shot. Or to try and spark your team. Let's be honest, I'm not sure what the stat is but I know fighting is down this year. Goons are really not needed in the league anymore but to take fighting out completely is flat out stupid.


Who's "taking fighting out"?  GMs are voluntarily waiving goons because they're useless.  There is ZERO effort by ANYONE to "take fighting out".  It's not like Gary Bettman is forcing teams to waive guys like Brandon Prust or Steve Ott because they occasionally fight. 


If you fight once in a while and can play hockey, you get to keep your job.  If you are a useless tub of s*** (read: McGrattan) then you hit the bricks.  But that's because he's useless, not because someone is "taking fighting out" of hockey. 

#2562406 1/10 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Capitals 3

Posted by kipwinger on 10 January 2015 - 08:45 PM

We finally had a little zone time once babs changed the lines. Hopefully we can get all over them in the third.

#2562388 1/10 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Capitals 3

Posted by kipwinger on 10 January 2015 - 08:28 PM

Need to get Weiss up with sheahan and pulkkinen. Miller works hard but can't make plays.

#2562352 1/10 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Capitals 3

Posted by kipwinger on 10 January 2015 - 07:36 PM

At the game. Pulkkinens shot is unreal. Soooo much quicker than anything else we have seen on this team.

#2562309 McGratton on waivers

Posted by kipwinger on 10 January 2015 - 05:48 PM


Because we're Wings fans first.  We won't root for someone else.


But that doesn't mean I have to accept every cheap piece of europuss that Holland has to stick on the roster.  


And if that's not enough, let's just say I want an enforcer on the team just to see kipwinger throwing temper tantrums and starting threads about how useless that player is.  




Tell me again about how useful McGuffin is on the day that he cleared waivers?


I suppose 30 NHL General Managers are just as ***, pussified, and delusional as I am eh?

#2562270 McGratton on waivers

Posted by kipwinger on 10 January 2015 - 03:28 PM

so why are you still fans of such "weak", "pussified" team?...


Don't forget ***.  Frankgrimes made it clear above that if there's no fighting, hockey will become "as homosexual as other sports".  


The great Champion of fighting wants enforcers in the game, why?  So it doesn't turn ***.  Lol. 


Even if I didn't care about fighting in hockey I'd be against it just so I didn't have to agree with anyone who thinks something like that. 

#2562260 McGratton on waivers

Posted by kipwinger on 10 January 2015 - 03:06 PM


I get the feeling that you grew up playing hockey and lost your roster spot to an enforcer.  


Close.  When I was a child I was a member of Big Brothers/Big Sisters.  As luck would have it, premier NHL enforcer Craig Coxe had volunteered to be a member of Big Brothers/Big Sisters and I, being a lifelong hockey fan, was chosen as his "little".  I was so excited that I was going to get to spend time with a real, live, NHL enforcer.  No more gushing over hockey cards, facebook photographs, and in-game stills for me.  This was the real thing!  Never had I been more "pro-enforcer".


Craig Coxe is generally unreliable.  Both as a human being, and as a "big". 


That's why I hate enforcers GMRwings.  Well that and because Brian McGuffin is "better at life than me". 

#2562258 McGratton on waivers

Posted by kipwinger on 10 January 2015 - 03:00 PM


In all my excitement of liking posts in this amazing thread, I didn't realize we were talking about TOM HARDY IN MAD MAX?!?!?!




I know, how much is that film going to rule?

#2562237 McGratton on waivers

Posted by kipwinger on 10 January 2015 - 12:45 PM

So you want Lucic to hurt someone so that your enforcers are relevant? Am I the only one reading this?


That's right.  He wants Lucic to go out of his way to hurt someone, so that McGuffin can come back and make Lucic not hurt people anymore. 


And that, in a nutshell, is the mentality of the pro-fighting crowd. 

#2562172 McGratton on waivers

Posted by kipwinger on 09 January 2015 - 09:04 PM

Well that and GMRwings doesn't have an odd, almost child-like infatuation with pictures of me.

#2562168 McGratton on waivers

Posted by kipwinger on 09 January 2015 - 09:00 PM

[quote name="GMRwings1983" post="2562167" timestamp="1420854937"]

Very funny.  Except, Brian McGrattan is better at life than you are.

The most obvious difference between he and I is that only one of us is currently employed.

#2562156 McGratton on waivers

Posted by kipwinger on 09 January 2015 - 08:29 PM

I was petrified by the prospects of this film.


After seeing the trailer... two words:  FUUUU#*#*$&&%^^#**@*!(!KKKK YEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!


I thought the same thing when I first heard about it, but it looks awesome as hell lol.