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#2572598 TSN: Winnipeg, Toronto and Edmonton top NTC lists

Posted by kipwinger on 20 February 2015 - 10:22 AM

First it was all, "you can't even order anything if you don't speak French".  Which sounds horrible...so horrible as to be almost unreal.  Then, once he gets called out it's, "I'm just pointing out that it would be difficult". 


It's almost like he was using hyperbole, bordering on xenophobia and fear mongering, to make a point and then immediately backpedaling once it became clear that A) the point is invalid, and B) we're not as dumb as he thinks we are. 


Here's the thing Frank, every single place has some drawbacks.  Even your beloved Newport Beach for example.  The chances of you experiencing an earthquake, traffic congestion, smog, or urban decay in California are probably much greater than a millionaire being unable "to order anything because he doesn't speak French" in Montreal. 


Last time you were in the Los Angeles area did you not notice any of the substantial problems it has?  Or do you avoid going there (and don't plan to) because of all the Hispanic people speaking a language you don't understand?

#2572540 2/18 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Blackhawks 2 (SO. Yes, SO!).

Posted by kipwinger on 19 February 2015 - 07:47 PM

I absolutely love Patrick Kane.  What's not to like about a mulleted smartass who skates like a cheetah, drinks like a Russian, scores goals and wins Stanley Cups?  It's as if Joe Dirt were REALLY good at hockey. 

#2572520 2/18 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Blackhawks 2 (SO. Yes, SO!).

Posted by kipwinger on 19 February 2015 - 05:46 PM

I think the next time Kane does it Jimmy should just come out of the net and wipe him out. Let them award the goal. It would simultaneously give Kane pause the next time he faces Jimmy AND reignite a great rivalry.

#2572501 Getzlaf calls Ovechkin a diver, O says "I have hair"

Posted by kipwinger on 19 February 2015 - 04:14 PM

This conversation makes me think of David Lee Roth's "Yankee Rose" for some reason.  I like to think of my America as both a hot chick and a thinly veiled reference to snorting cocaine through a rolled up million dollar bill. 

#2572489 Do we need to add grit?

Posted by kipwinger on 19 February 2015 - 02:39 PM


No kidding.  The way Tootoo was treated here by Holland and Babcock reminds me of how the WWE treated Diamond Dallas Page.  Total burial.  


I agree with you about DDP, it's a god damned travesty.  But I'm curious why you always say Holland treated Tootoo badly.  I mean, he did sign him to a pretty reasonable contract, waived him and let him play in GR rather than sit on the bench, and bought him out so that he didn't have to play in GR for another year.  Seems to me, by all accounts, Holland did right by Jordan Tootoo. 


How else was Holland supposed to act if Babs isn't going to play the guy?

#2572481 2/18 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Blackhawks 2 (SO. Yes, SO!).

Posted by kipwinger on 19 February 2015 - 12:56 PM


they showed a recap of the game tonight in ESPN where it was titled "shootout showdown" and the only shots they showed of the shootout were gooses goal, and sharps miss...
You'd think they'd show the Kane miss, tats copy and scores.
But no.
ESPN's trash.


Except Olbermann.  That guy rules.  He's such a dick. 


Edit:  Lol.

#2572479 2/18 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Blackhawks 2 (SO. Yes, SO!).

Posted by kipwinger on 19 February 2015 - 12:55 PM

If he scores every time I don't care if he does that from the blue Line in.
Obviously it'd get annoying but if it works, it works,
Also I don't recall having seen any moaning about kanes shootouts.
Maybe I just stop reading before all the depressing comments start before we lose the shootout, but i just cant recall it.



Agreed.  I think they're awesome.  I could see complaining about them if he broke a rule or something.  Instead he's just really super awesome at shootouts.  Nothing to see here...except amazing stickhandling and otherworldly dekes...of course. 

#2572464 2/18 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Blackhawks 2 (SO. Yes, SO!).

Posted by kipwinger on 19 February 2015 - 10:45 AM

meh.  They always drool over Datsyuk and give Babcock his due.  ...and don't take "remarkable" as anything but a veiled jab.


The Versteeg bit was cute.  I also like Doc's subtle poking fun of Edzo's bias from time to time.


I just can't get with Edzo.  No matter what game he's calling.


Don't get me wrong, I'm not gushing over the guy.  But I really didn't think last night's broadcast was biased.  Nothing jumped out as being overtly partisan. 


Oh, and I do gush a little over Pierre McGuire.  That guy is awesome.  I seriously love his commentary.  He's like the anti Jack Edwards...in the sense that he actually talks about hockey and isn't a blowhard douchebag. 

#2572444 Teemu Pulkkinen called back up

Posted by kipwinger on 19 February 2015 - 09:33 AM

OK, every one start chipping in for the PPV. Kip vs. krsmith, best two out of three posts.

I call special guest referee.


Nah, I'm done bro.  I didn't even read that last one.  It's a new day, and with a new day comes a whole new set of things to discuss.  I can only bring out the best in people one at a time.  Yesterday was his turn.  Today might be yours.  Watch out buddy.  Doom!

#2572439 Teemu Pulkkinen called back up

Posted by kipwinger on 19 February 2015 - 09:22 AM

Kip, it's easy enough to admit you're wrong when the facts are out. You admitted thinking that Jurco would be ready when it's clear now that he probably wasn't, with him now struggling and being demoted to the 4th line. You admitted being wrong about Helm and Abdelkader because it has become evidently clear that both are having great seasons, and providing a spark in their respective roles. But in both situations I'm willing to bet you were adamant about your opinion, and there was no changing your mind until you were eventually proven wrong. I specifically remember another argument that you and I had at the beginning of the season, where I was saying that Helm would look great on the wing, and you were firm on the fact that Helm is a center, so he shouldn't be playing wing. Babcock said he is the best third line center in hockey, so there's no way he should play on the wing... He has proven that he is just as good on the wing if not better than he was at center.


If Smith doesn't mature into a reliable top 4 defenseman in the next few seasons, I would without question, admit that I was wrong. Just like if he does, I would expect that you would as well. If Andersson remains with the organization and becomes an Abdelkader type player I would gladly admit I was wrong. I admit that I was wrong in thinking that Franzen was going to finally put his injury woes behind him and have a career year this season. I have absolutely no problem admitting when I'm wrong, but in this instance I am not.


There is absolutely nothing wrong with me saying that Pulkkinen is the right handed sniper "we've" been longing for. If you think there aren't a ton of Red Wings fans that would love to have a right-handed sniper in our line-up or that Holland and Babcock don't get a chub thinking about having a right handed sniper in their top six, you're delusional. If we did a poll thread and asked fans if they think we need a right handed sniper on our team and the consensus was "no", or if Holland and Babcock were interviewed and asked if they would like to have a right handed sniper in their lineup, and they responded with "no", then I would gladly admit that you were right, and I am wrong, I had completely misspoken... But we both know that there's no way that would happen, you're just way too damn stubborn to admit it...


Me guaranteeing that fans and management would love to have a right-handed sniper but not being able to back it up with a quote, is like me guaranteeing that we (fans, Holland and Babcock) would love to win every single game for the rest of the season, and go 16-0 in the playoffs on our way to our 12th Stanley Cup... Well nobody has come out and said it, so it can't be true... Give me a break man... Every management team in the league would love to have a balance of right and left handed shots throughout their lineup. It's no secret that their is better flow, and easier to set up plays with righties and lefties up front and on the back end. It's also no secret that we sorely lack right handed shots throughout our lineup. A huge thing when we signed guys like Alfredsson and Samuelsson was, they can really help out our team's scoring with their heavy right handed shots... But you're absolutely right, fans and management are not at all excited about this young Finnish sniper that is currently ripping up the American League with his booming right handed shot...


Anyway, I'm done talking about this. I expected a bit of a confrontation about the idea of trading a proven NHL player like Nyquist or Tatar over a somewhat unknown prospect like Pulkkinen, but I never expected an argument about whether or not we need a right handed sniper in our lineup... Crazy...



#2572371 Next Number to be retired

Posted by kipwinger on 18 February 2015 - 11:47 PM

Hahaha I wasn't expecting that response but I never look for things like that, freaking internet man.
I didn't think he was that jacked either from old video I've seen but he did end a guy's career with a punch.
I'll feel a bit dumb if it's fake.


Don't feel dumb.  I have seen that picture a ton of times and still have no idea.  This is definitely not the first time I've compared that picture to others of Gordie.  I've concluded that it's one of three things...1)  It's fake, 2) the camera adds 75 lbs. of lean muscle mass, 3) for a couple years in the middle of his career, Gordie Howe was indeed a body double for Lou Ferrigno. 


I have not made a final determination on which one yet. 

#2572368 Next Number to be retired

Posted by kipwinger on 18 February 2015 - 11:35 PM

I'm sorry but if Mathieu Dandenault and this mauler go into the corner for a loose puck the only thing Dandy is coming out with is a broken bone.
I understand that nutrition and training argument is universally accepted as fact and I agree with it. (I know you were half joking about this too)
However most players today don't have that much muscle and Grandpa strength.
People like Rocky Marciano (who stood eye to eye with Joe
Pesci) had all time strength and could rock a 300lb punching bag during training harder than most fighters ever.
I just don't like when legends get diminished by the bigger faster argument.
Babe Ruth has been getting a lot of heat on social media lately for being out of shape and playing against inferior competition but I would like a Major Leaguer to try and crack homers with that redwood tree he used.
I fully understand that I'm on sketchy ground posting a shirtless Guy twice on LGW too btw.


I'm about 70% convinced that's photo shopped.  I can't prove it, since I have almost no technical knowledge whatsoever.  But it just feels fake.  Those are like, Hulk Hogan's arms or something.  I'm pretty sure, if Gordie Howe was that big, at least one other picture of him would show verify it.  But that's the only one I've ever seen like it. It's got to be a fan's photoshop.  If it was Brian McGrattan I'd know exactly where to place the blame. 


Here's one of Gordie and Jean Beliveau in the 50's which seems way more reasonable to me...



#2572360 Teemu Pulkkinen called back up

Posted by kipwinger on 18 February 2015 - 11:16 PM

I disagree that there's *no* reason to argue. ...but there are fruitful arguments and there are... Well, tedious ones.


Guilty, your honor. 

#2572345 Teemu Pulkkinen called back up

Posted by kipwinger on 18 February 2015 - 10:53 PM

You're absolutely right Kip, I'm not sure why I'm surprised though, you always are... I am the single Red Wings fan that would love to have a right handed sniper. There is no other Red Wings fans that would love to have a right handed sniper, nor would Red Wings management, or the coaching staff. All left handed shots throughout the lineup is clearly the way to go. I apologize for my ignorance...


Oh no, your last resort is to accuse me of never admitting when I'm wrong?  What about those two times I admitted I was wrong...just today? Once when I was talking to you...and told you that you were right? 


Once here when I was talking to you about Jurco:  http://www.letsgowin...r-teemu/page-11


"You're right about that.  He could have used the seasoning.  I legitimately thought, after last year, that he was ready.  But I was wrong on that.  He definitely could have used more time to hone his power forward game down there."


And once here when I was talking about Helm and Abby:  http://www.letsgowin...e-thread/page-6


"Agreed.  I'd prefer to get him out of the top six, but I certainly don't want him off the team at this point.  Admittedly, I was singing a different tune at the start of the season but I was wrong about that.  He and Abby have been a big part of this team's success, both because of their own production and because of their ability to battle and retrieve pucks for the skill guys."



I seriously defy you to find ANYONE else on LGW who has admitted being wrong even a single time in the last two months, and I did it twice today. 


But in the mean time, you should probably just stop.  This is all starting to look like sour grapes bud. You said a wrong thing, it's ok.  When you get called on it next time just say "yeah, that was probably hyperbole", or "yeah, I guess they were specifically talking about a right shot defenseman".  It's ok.  Being wrong isn't the end of the world.  Nobody expects you to be right all the time.  And if you just admit you were full of it to begin with, you wouldn't have to say things like "All left handed shots throughout the lineup is clearly the way to go. I apologize for my ignorance...".  Which is frankly, beneath you. 


Take it from me, the guy who can (demonstrably) admit when I'm wrong. 


I want you to be a better you.  It's the Kip effect. 

#2571856 Do we need to add grit?

Posted by kipwinger on 18 February 2015 - 07:58 PM

But Neil, despite his age and build, actually isn't terribly slow. He's certainly faster and more mobile than McCarty was in that Stanley Cup run.
You're always going to have to sacrifice a little speed in order to add a little grit, but balanced teams have a better track record in the playoffs. 

There are plenty of gritty guys who can skate. Glendening, Prust, martin, and clutterbuck come to mind. I don't agree that you have to sacrifice speed for grittiness.