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#2582701 Lines Thread

Posted by kipwinger on 18 March 2015 - 11:35 AM

I think Jurco fits just fine on the 4th line. He's faster and more physical than Andersson, and I don't think the drop-off defensively is that drastic. With Helm in the lineup, we don't need Andy to kill penalties. 







Do you think it would be preferable to put Abby with Datsyuk, and Cole with Zetterberg, considering Abby is more familiar with Datsyuk's style of play?  Datsyuk is the more  unconventional player, and while Cole is still learning the system it might be easier for him to play with Z. 


Just a thought.

#2582517 Red Wings acquire Marek Zidlicky from NJ for Cond. 2016 3rd Round Pick

Posted by kipwinger on 16 March 2015 - 03:09 PM


Agreed. This is not like years past when we could just pair guys like this with Lidstrom and not worry about it. 


Well, that didn't really work all that well either.  Ian White, when paired with Lidstrom, looked like a much better defenseman.  But he was still Ian White lol. 

#2582495 3/14 GDT : Red Wings 2 at Flyers 7

Posted by kipwinger on 16 March 2015 - 12:58 PM


I do and I still think it's a good idea. Smith was our best D-man out there today, admittedly in a team effort where my grandmother probably would have been our best player (and she's dead). But using this game of all games to pick on Smith is strange to say the least. Same goes for the people who complain about Howard btw. This teams problems are certainly not named Jimmy Howard or Brendan Smith.



Smith wasn't that bad...




You obviously haven't been watching games closely lately. Smith has been one of our best players the last few games and most consistent. He is skating well, moving the puck quickly, joining in the rush, and playing pretty good D as well. Kronners has looked far more comfortable with Smith than Ericsson. 


Kronners- Smith

Danny D- Zids

Quincy- Marchenkio


I would sit Ericsson for a game and keep that as my top 4 I really like that. 



So, Smith that wasn't that bad, and he's been our best defenseman lately huh?  Lets just see if that's true.  During the last three games, Smith has been an absolute dumpster fire 5 on 5.  He's been wholly, or partially, responsible for 3 goals against, and one breakaway.  If this is him being "good", then I don't want to see him being bad.


Don't believe me?  Here's the video. 


Here's Brendan failing to either tie up Anisimov's stick, or take the body and put him into the boards, and thus allowing him to take a pass behind the net and make a play out front for a goal.  The fact that Zidlicky was worse on the play doesn't mean Smith was good. (Note:  Pay attention to the replay, you get a good look at Anisimov making a routine play right in front of Smith's face).


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Here's Brendan leaving the eventual goal scorer to "help" take a guy that Kronwall already has, and who's safely steered away from the play, leaving the aforementioned goal scorer all alone in front of Jimmy. 


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Here's Brendan throwing the puck away, and then drifting clear across the ice to challenge the guy Dekeyser already has, allowing the play to be made from the spot he should be in.


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And finally, in his best game of the last three, here's Brendan bungling a routine play, turning the puck over in the defensive zone, and allowing an excellent scoring chance that Mrazek bailed him out on. 


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Third pair defense are rarely to blame for losing streaks, and this is no different.  But you are all insane if you think Smith has played well the last three games.  He hasn't.  I don't blame him for the failures of our PK, but he's EASILY been our worst defenseman 5 on  5.  Here's the evidence.  Disagree with me?  Go find the videos to prove it.

#2582489 Red Wings acquire Marek Zidlicky from NJ for Cond. 2016 3rd Round Pick

Posted by kipwinger on 16 March 2015 - 11:31 AM

Yeah maybe it would work if it was a PP pair


No doubt.  That's why I'm completely fine with leaving Zidlicky exactly where he is.  Whatever keeps hime fresh for the PP (which is where he's doing his damage) is fine by me.  I'd shelter him from now until eternity if he scored even half as much as he is right now.  No need to gas him making him play defense. 

#2582469 Red Wings acquire Marek Zidlicky from NJ for Cond. 2016 3rd Round Pick

Posted by kipwinger on 16 March 2015 - 09:11 AM

So, is it safe to say that Marek Zidlickyf****** rules or what?  Makes me drool thinking about what might have been had we been able to get our hands on him earlier. 


Both of these trades are working out for us pretty mightily.  Kudos to Ken Holland.  At the deadline I said that both trades addressed needs, but didn't address them enough. 


Boy was I wrong. 

#2581829 3/14 GDT : Red Wings 2 at Flyers 7

Posted by kipwinger on 14 March 2015 - 05:42 PM

So Brendan smith on the first pair for two goals against at even strength today. Can everybody who thought that was a good idea raise your hand...and then go purge yourself of other bad ideas.

#2581259 3/12 GDT : Blue Jackets 3 at Red Wings 1

Posted by kipwinger on 13 March 2015 - 08:20 AM

Just going to go out on a limb here, but everybody realizes that Columbus doesn't actually suck right?  They're SUPER injured.  Like worse than we were last year.  But when reasonably healthy they're actually a pretty good team. 


This is the type of game we need to win, and I'm not making excuses for the loss.  We clearly need to get our forward lines and defense pairings worked out in the wake of the Cole and Zidlicky additions. 


But Columbus is a solid team.  So lets not make this loss into something worse than it is. 

#2581020 3/12 GDT : Blue Jackets 3 at Red Wings 1

Posted by kipwinger on 12 March 2015 - 08:12 PM

Raise your hand if you said none of our regular defensemen could ever get scratched for marchenko? Clearly we aren't better with him in the lineup. Except all those games we won against good teams...with him in the lineup.

#2580782 TANK IT! 2014-2015 Season

Posted by kipwinger on 12 March 2015 - 02:08 PM

"As for preparing the Wings to play the Blue Jackets, this was Babcock's reply: "We come in here, we try to make everyone look like the '68 Montreal Canadiens," he said of the Habs team that won the 15th Stanley Cup in club history. "Doesn't matter what their record is. That's what we try to do. But they don't believe us.


"The bottom line is we know we've got to get better. We aren't firing on all cylinders right now, like we were two weeks ago, so it's time to get our game back, and that's what we're going to try to do today."



I think he means, "think of every opponent as the '68 Canadiens".  Not "make them look like the '68 Canadiens", which admittedly, we've been doing the last couple of games. 

#2580778 Sounds like the New York "Islanders" are no more...

Posted by kipwinger on 12 March 2015 - 01:54 PM

Isles sign Boychuk to 7 years, 6 million per.  Pretty steep. 

#2580757 All Purpose Grand Rapids Griffins Thread

Posted by kipwinger on 12 March 2015 - 11:23 AM

I think he resembles the American Pie dude. It looks like he's about to finish that interview and go f*** a pie.

#2580741 Pulkkinen sent back to GR

Posted by kipwinger on 12 March 2015 - 10:14 AM

Datsyuk's two best offensive seasons (2008, 2009) came with Holmstrom on his line.  In those two season Holmstrom scored 40 pts. (20G, 20A) one year, and 37 pts. (14G, 23A) the next. 


Given how that line is scoring with Helm, I'd imagine Helm will finish the season somewhere in the 35-40 point ballpark (he's got 29 already). 


If anything, the fact that Tatar isn't as good as Zetterberg or Hossa is a bigger impact on Pav's numbers.  Not the fact that Helm isn't Holmstrom. 

#2580706 Helm injury update and a very good one too

Posted by kipwinger on 11 March 2015 - 07:53 PM

When David clarson was scoring goals in new jersey he was doing so disproportionate to his skill level. Nevertheless, new jersey would have been stupid to move him to the fourth line. Same with Glendening if he were producing like that here.

#2580688 Franzen on IR

Posted by kipwinger on 11 March 2015 - 03:56 PM


please, change you avatar or, alternatively, post less. As a man, I feel offended.


Why?  This is a gender friendly forum.  If it were a half naked chick I doubt you'd be complaining. 

#2580686 Franzen on IR

Posted by kipwinger on 11 March 2015 - 02:48 PM

Wasn't the point of contention that people were quick to jump on the "Franzen is done forever" bandwagon as a result of their disdain for Franzen, and not because there was any reason to believe his career was actually threatened?  That's what it seemed like (five pages ago, or whatever). 


If so, I think there's probably a lot of evidence to support this. 


For instance, this thread was started on January 8th.  Most of the posts immediately following the creation of the thread didn't even address Franzen or his injury, and instead focused on Pulkkinen.  By January 9th people were already speculating that Franzen was done forever, despite the fact that the nature of his injury hadn't even been disclosed. 


It seems naive to suggest that "wishful thinking" didn't play a role in how people responded to Franzen's injury.  Which seemed to be Number9's point (if I'm reading it correctly). 


Sidebar:  The irony is that we now know that folks were wrong to be so excited about Pulkkinen stepping in for the Mule.  Franzen was having a good year (22 pts. in 30+ games), and Pulkkinen has struggled to find his consistency and seems unable to stand up to the physicality of the NHL game (both frequently used to criticize Franzen).  We're actually a better team with Franzen, regardless of what the haters say.