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#2414789 Fraser's take on Penalty Shot

Posted by kipwinger on 29 May 2013 - 06:11 PM

The biggest issue with assuming a long-standing conspiracy within an organization is the assumption carries a requirement that the people conspiring are competent and somewhat forward-looking to anticipate new ways to implement the conspiracy anew.


I don't know about anyone else, but the brain trust of the NHL, in my opinion, aren't competent and sure as hell aren't forward looking.


For years my father has claimed that the league "hates the Wings" or "wants Detroit to lose" or whatever.  I constantly have to remind him that we are the most successful organization of the last two decades.  If there is a conspiracy against the Wings, it's the least successful conspiracy ever.  Why would anybody give a rat's ass about an ineffective conspiracy?

#2414084 Fraser's take on Penalty Shot

Posted by kipwinger on 28 May 2013 - 04:04 PM

I can't believe that we're still talking about this.  Refs on the ice thought it was the right call.  The CBC announcers thought it was the right call.  The NBC announcers thought it was the right call, and now Fraser thinks it's the right call.  The only people that don't think so are the Detroit fans.  We all need to get over it and perhaps ask ourselves why our team consistently gets outplayed in the third period.  Despite having frequent leads.  And despite at times overwhelming play in periods one and two. 


If you think that call was what lost us the game, ask yourself this: "Why did he have a breakaway in the third period at all?  Why haven't we had any?"

#2410817 WCSF Game 4 GDT- Blackhawks 0 @ Red Wings 2 - (DET leads series 3-1)

Posted by kipwinger on 24 May 2013 - 08:45 AM

I'm not so sure that it's because Quenneville is a mediocre coach, he's a good coach, but he's doing what any coach would do...trying to free up guys.  The problem is, EVERY Red Wing forward (aside for that lovable Brunner) plays good defense.  He's mixing and matching trying to find open ice for these guys but the only way he's going to get any of his top line guys free is to try and get them out there against our third line and that opens up a world of hurt the other way when Pav or Hank's line is out against your third line guys. 


In an interview earlier this week Quincey was talking about how Bab's has really preached "swarming" on defense, and not playing man on man.  Right now Chicago has no answer for it and Quenneville is searching in vein for open ice. 

#2409611 WCSF Game 4 GDT- Blackhawks 0 @ Red Wings 2 - (DET leads series 3-1)

Posted by kipwinger on 23 May 2013 - 01:51 PM

I do believe we're definitely in his head. OK, I want to believe it...

I hope you're right about Quenneville and discipline. But he did put in Bickell (sp) and Shaw, at the end of the last game. The goonery is what I'm most worried about.

And Flashy, GREAT work again. Thanks for the laughs!


Hell I hope you're right.  If they're gooning it up they're taking penalties, and it's real hard to score goals when you're short handed.  I want them in the box as often as possible.  I don't think they will be early in the game, but if we can take a lead they'll lose their heads. 

#2409213 Another reason why Red Wings fans are awesome.

Posted by kipwinger on 22 May 2013 - 12:30 PM

I was just telling my girlfriend about this and she said, "well it is his mother, he has a right to be pissed".  To which I responded, "well it is the Stanley Cup playoffs". 


She sighed and gave in. 

#2408640 Brunner's Best

Posted by kipwinger on 20 May 2013 - 10:26 PM

The f*** is wrong with you Brunner?...





Well they did say the Red Wings would be getting a Swiss sniper didn't they?  Talk about accuracy. 

#2408603 Trade Smith ASAP!

Posted by kipwinger on 20 May 2013 - 10:01 PM

Smith looking pretty good in the last 2 games


What Smith are you talking about?  Surely not the one who had two interference calls against him and a load of turnovers.  If Dekeyser were healthy tomorrow Brendan Smith would be in the press box until someone got hurt or training camp started. 

#2407523 People who don't "buy in" to Corey Crawford

Posted by kipwinger on 20 May 2013 - 11:53 AM

Haha remember when osgood was on the blues? lol


Yeah that 03-04 season was terrible.  What with his 31 wins, 2.24 goals against average, and .910 save percentage.  Just awful. 

Hes their Osgood. Put him on a team that isn't as dominate, I think hes a middle tier goalie, but, with their team in front of him he doesn't really have to steal games, just make a few big saves, and then be solid and they do the rest.


This is getting lame.  Put ANY player on a worse team and their numbers will decrease.  You don't think Patrick Roy would suffer if he played for a garbage team?

#2403910 Justin Abdelkader

Posted by kipwinger on 13 May 2013 - 11:12 AM

The thing I like about his play right now is that he's shooting from everywhere all the time.  He's got confidence coming out of his ears. 

#2403886 Justin Abdelkader

Posted by kipwinger on 13 May 2013 - 10:27 AM

Yeah I have no idea where this guy's offense is coming from, but I hope he keeps it up.  I'll readily admit that I never liked him, and have given him tons of s*** over the years.  So this is definitely egg on my face.  But I'll gladly be wrong when it comes to something like this.  Dare I say...he plays like a...power forward?

#2398806 Playing Eaves over Tootoo

Posted by kipwinger on 07 May 2013 - 10:57 AM

I might be in the minority here, but I thought Sammy looked fine last night.  I loved Bert and Eaves too.  I generally look for any excuse I can to complain about Mikael Samuelsson being on this team, but for a first game back I thought he looked good.  Also, as good as Bert was all game, I really like him out with Andersson and Nyquist.  I was almost impossible to get the puck from him and Andersson on the cycle. 


Anyway, they all looked good and I've give them all another game in the lineup. 

#2397416 Playing Eaves over Tootoo

Posted by kipwinger on 06 May 2013 - 03:10 PM

I don't think it's a matter of Eaves OR Tootoo.  They both should be playing.  You need Eaves because he kills penalties and Tootoo doesn't.  But there's really no reason to play anyone else on the opposite wing other than Tootoo.  Eaves-Emmy-Tootoo.  Nuff said.  Then put Bert or Sammy up with Dats and Z. 

#2397380 2 Games for Abby, 0 for Weber?...We Deserve Answers

Posted by kipwinger on 06 May 2013 - 02:43 PM

That Orpick hit is perfect. Lateral force. Exploding up is dumb.


I'm trying to tell ya.  And the thing to take from it is, it accomplished everything it was supposed to WHILE AT THE SAME TIME not injuring anyone.  He imposed himself physically, he separated the man from the puck, he broke up the rush AND he didn't injure anyone.  That's exactly how you should be hitting in any era, past or present. 

#2397360 2 Games for Abby, 0 for Weber?...We Deserve Answers

Posted by kipwinger on 06 May 2013 - 02:26 PM

All y'all need to stop living in the past with demanding retribution/explanation/etc. for the Weber hit.

Yes, it was a bad non-call, non-suspension, Shannywithhisheadinhisass kind of situation.

...and I love PainTrain as much as the next guy, but he gone.  He ain't coming back.


I'm pissed at Abby.  He's been playing well, been a good presence on the ice and then crosses the line and does something REALLY unnecessary.

Abby's hit was questionable and he compounded the issue by both exploding upwards into the hit (and in turn leaving his feet during impact) and extending his arms.  Keep your s*** in tight and rock the body, you got yourself a clean hit...




More than anything else:

I want a more coherent explanation of the Gryba on Eller hit. It's topical.  It's current. 

It's going to be a video comparison we see over and over and over moving forward.  ...and I still think it's clean as a bar of Irish Spring.


The video shown in the Shanaban explanation shows that initial point of contact is the chest and shoulder area. To me, it's clear. Impact is chest/sternum, glancing head, glancing right shoulder. It's unfortunate that hitting the ice opened up Eller's precious face, but c'mon Shanny this is grasping...

You say Eller is eligible to be hit, but then quantify it with nonsense!! 

I don't even understand what "taking the wrong route" means or "enough of a full body check." 

He doesn't explode upwards.  He doesn't extend a shoulder, elbow, or fore-arm. 

Get out your protactor, t-squares, and level to measure the angle of body checks folks...  This is what it's come to.




#2396690 WCQF Game 3 GDT - Ducks 4 @ Red Wings 0 (ANA leads series 2-1)

Posted by kipwinger on 05 May 2013 - 10:07 AM

Didn't have a chance to catch the game last night, had to work.  What the hell happened?  I doubt seriously Dekeyser accounts for that kind of a fall off.  Was Lashoff in for him?  If so, how did he look?