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#2462761 12/10 GDT: Red Wings 2 at Panthers 3 (SO)

Posted by kipwinger on 10 December 2013 - 03:57 PM

I still don't mind seeing Abs in that role - I think he does it well. He has a role, he knows his role... and he shuts his mouth.


That being said, I'm most excited to see what that 3rd line can do. Really hope they light it up.


I'm most excited about the fact that you subtly made a reference to The Rock in that post.  FOR THE MILLIONS............

#2462751 12/10 GDT: Red Wings 2 at Panthers 3 (SO)

Posted by kipwinger on 10 December 2013 - 03:30 PM

Love Babcock and all, but I just can't wrap my head around why he continues to put Abby on the 2nd line. And I don't wanna hear "oh it's to have balance on the 2nd line." If "balance" means to have a guy out there who has never been and will never be a top line guy, then let's please not go for balance. There's a reason most gritty players are 3rd and 4th liners (aside from the ones who regularly contribute offensively, which Abby does not). At this point I'm just hoping and praying that when Z returns, Babcock will finally lose his man-crush on Abby and put him on the 3rd or 4th line where he belongs.


He puts Abby in the top six because of puck retrieval, which he's quite good at.  I don't think Babs cares if he scores or not.  It's not like it's out of the blue either.  Early in the year we had serious trouble with one and done offense and on a line with Weiss (soft) and Alfie (old) having a guy who can go get the puck isn't the worst idea in the world.

#2462742 Yzerman commits to Alumni Game roster!

Posted by kipwinger on 10 December 2013 - 03:16 PM

If it's not picked up nationally, then FSD will definitely carry it.  Hell, they aired the Red and White scrimmage during last year's abbreviated training camp.  One way or another this will be on tv, and if you've got an internet connection you'll be able to see it.

#2462707 Darren Helm Injured

Posted by kipwinger on 10 December 2013 - 02:22 PM

You can say that last part again! Never thought id hear anyone utter the words "thank god for franzen" lol


Well it's not too much of a stretch for me.  I like Franzen, and the blanket criticism he receives is hardly ever warranted.  Does he have bad games sometimes?  Sure.  Is he a bad player?  Nope.  On a team that has struggled offensively for four or five years, a guy who can put up 25-29 goals is a breath of fresh air.

#2462706 12/10 GDT: Red Wings 2 at Panthers 3 (SO)

Posted by kipwinger on 10 December 2013 - 02:20 PM

I'm happy to see Pavs back and all, but honestly, I get most excited about watching Tatar  and Nyquist these days.  Beginning of the year I watched every game because I am a fan and want to see them win.  But it was more "ho hum, lets see if the same old thing yields good results tonight".  Now, I'm legitimately excited to see what these two can do every night.

#2462686 Darren Helm Injured

Posted by kipwinger on 10 December 2013 - 12:39 PM

You know, I'm pretty impressed with the way the Wings played while all these guys were out.  What'd they lose two and win one without Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Bertuzzi, Helm, and Dekeyser?  They get Dats tonight, they play a s***ting team in Florida, and if they win it they split on during this period.  Not too shabby.  Thank god of Franzen, Tatar, and Nyquist eh?

#2462550 Shawn Thornton attacks Orpik (leaves game on stretcher)

Posted by kipwinger on 09 December 2013 - 04:03 PM

Well Neal got 5 games, but according to Shanny's video he wasn't considered a repeat offender for some reason even though he'd been suspended twice before.  I don't really get it.

#2462477 Shawn Thornton attacks Orpik (leaves game on stretcher)

Posted by kipwinger on 09 December 2013 - 10:33 AM


The Norris Division was a dangerous (and entertaining) freak show. Today's leaugue is, by comparison, a(n entertaining) petting zoo.


Just saying.


I'm not sure what you're "just saying". 

#2462453 Shawn Thornton attacks Orpik (leaves game on stretcher)

Posted by kipwinger on 09 December 2013 - 03:40 AM


Nope team Bettman is my nickname for that team, after all the stuff they are getting away with.


Doesn't matter to me, its just annoying reading the same headlines everytime something like this is happening. If people don't like the game fine, don't watch it but stop pushing an agenda.


Neals hit could have been way worse the guy is skating with protectors on his knee through the head of a player, who happens to lay down on the ice that's disgusting and extremely dangerous. The department of player safety needs to look at the intent and then at the result, if Thornton is getting extensively more than Neal something in this league is really really wrong..if this happened to Crosby Mario and the whole Penguins organization would cry bloody murder.


There are two problems with your argument and how you present it.  First, fighting isn't part of the game, hence it's against the rules and is a penalty.  Secondly, you repeatedly call anyone who disagrees with you "soccer moms and dads", and tell everyone else to go watch something else if they don't agree.  Both are decidedly against the forum rules as well as piss poor ways of defending your point of view.  Not withstanding that fact that you inexplicably get away with your baiting over and over and over again, one has to wonder why (if you're such a fan of something that isn't part of the game) you don't go watch MMA or boxing. Instead, you prefer to tell everyone else to watch something else whenever they suggest that perhaps the game they love shouldn't be turned into a dangerous freak show because of flagrant and repeated disregard for the rules of the sport. 

#2462439 Shawn Thornton attacks Orpik (leaves game on stretcher)

Posted by kipwinger on 09 December 2013 - 12:53 AM

I think Claud Julien nailed it, basically said:


Thornton obviously crossed the line, but so did team Bettman known as the Penguins.


If Shanahan wants to send a message:

Thornton: 10 games - disgusting and he knows it

Neal: 8 games - that wasn't kneeing this was an intent with the head as principal point of contact according to rule #48 ..didn't even show any remorse what an idiot

Orpik: phone hearing = less than 5 games


I am sure it's also just bad luck, that everytime a game goes out of hand the Penguins are involved...maybe thats the Mario L. & Sindy C. bonus...


Personally, I still love the type of grit and caring McCarty has shown that's the type of team bounding I love to watch. Like Downey said, you can hit the players but if you cross the line someone will come out and make you pay for it. Sometimes I think people are forgetting, that this hockey not a sport for the soccer mums and dads of the world :)


You think you could knock off the baiting, it's obnoxious?

#2462287 Do Quincey and Smith have a future in Detroit?

Posted by kipwinger on 07 December 2013 - 10:45 PM


there is a great return on your investment... waste a 1st round pick to get him, re-sign him when he was an RFA knowing that if someone else signed him you could have had at least a 3rd rounder, now the best we can get in return is a conditional pick...Holland s*** the bed on that trade.  I know I was ok with it initially, but soured soon after and have hated him since before he re-signed...Holland's worst trade ever...

...if I can't trade him, I waive Q tonight along with Cleary.  too much money and taking up roster spots that could be given to a youngster who cares to be on this team...


No you didn't.  Here's what you said in May, 2012.  Months after he'd been traded for, and while he was a free agent. 


"Offer him a 5 year $3M per contract. A bit less money, but more security and more money to make the team better. If he doesn't agree, then let him decide what he wants to do. Get the 1st and 3rd round draft picks if he signs for more that elsewhere...Win-Win situation."


Here's where you said it:  http://www.letsgowin...de#entry2299045.


Apparently when you say you "soured soon after" what you really mean is that it would be a "win" if the Wings had re-signed him for FIVE years at 3 million dollars. 


Get real dude.

#2462270 Shawn Thornton attacks Orpik (leaves game on stretcher)

Posted by kipwinger on 07 December 2013 - 10:19 PM

Or maybe you should use your god given eyeballs and watch the replay. It didn't look like it was serious enough for anyone to get injured. His head didn't hit the ice so its not that...his shoulder did so maybe its an injury related to that but why a stretcher? The 2-3 hits weren't that hard either....I'm sure orpik has been hit harder.


My god, I can't imagine the kind of mental gymnastics you have to go through to come to the conclusion that Thornton did nothing wrong and Orpik "shouldn't" be hurt.  It's incredible.  Forget about us taking your posts seriously, how do you even type this stuff with a straight face.

#2462194 Shawn Thornton attacks Orpik (leaves game on stretcher)

Posted by kipwinger on 07 December 2013 - 09:31 PM

Orpik should've fought him the first time two cheap shots on bruins players led to it...Thornton will get a suspension but I don't blame him.


Why should Orpik have to fight for a clean hit?  He didn't cheap shot anyone. 

#2460140 Retaliation

Posted by kipwinger on 02 December 2013 - 02:17 PM

This whole thread is reactionary, and at the same time premeditated.  It's hard to be both at once; in fact, it's almost impossible.  Yet here we are.  Some people obviously want the Wings to play a "more physical" type of game, which typically boils down to more fighting.  So we wait, and when we finally lose a game in which we're physically dominated, they jump up and say "See!  If we were just tougher then this wouldn't happen."  It's opportunistic, and at the same time utterly predictable. 


Here's the problem with this thread in a nutshell.  We lost seven games in a row before the last Ottawa game, and physicality and fighting played no role in any of those losses.  Yet, I didn't see people jumping up to start "the Wings need to get faster" threads, or "the Wings need a better positional goalie" thread, or "the Wings need a better transition game" thread.  But sure as s***, the first time we get hit a little bit there will be a "the Wings need to get more physical" thread.


This isn't about the Wings playing better.  It's a post hoc way of justifying your desire to see the Wings get in more fights.  If that's how you feel just say so, but don't try to manipulate the truth.  And don't make it seem like this is some glaring need because it has barely been a factor this season. 


The argument is a cheap, unsophisticated attempt to pull the wool over our collective eyes.  It would be insulting if it weren't so glaringly obvious. 

#2460093 Brendan Smith

Posted by kipwinger on 02 December 2013 - 09:56 AM

I was not able to watch last Wednesday or Sunday's games.  However, I've been told that Smith played quite well in both.  I did see Friday's game and didn't think he looked bad.  I've always been quite vocal about how bad Smith was playing, and he was playing quite terribly at one point, but if he's turned the corner on that then he deserves to be recognized for that as well.  So "atta boy" Smith.