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#2560695 1/3 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Canucks 4

Posted by kipwinger on 05 January 2015 - 10:49 AM



I'm of the opinion that Weiss was never known for his defensive awareness, and maybe Babcock is sending a message by demoting him...Then again I've been wrong about alot of stuff so - what do I know?



Any scouting report I've ever seen on Weiss mentions his two way game and defensive responsibilities.  But I don't know either.  That's why I'm irritated that nobody has bothered to ask or write about it.  You've got a 5 million dollar player getting 7-10 minutes a night, AND he wasn't playing bad before getting benched.  It's a head scratcher. 

#2560693 1/3 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Canucks 4

Posted by kipwinger on 05 January 2015 - 10:40 AM

And what gets me scratching my head is that when he returned - Weiss was pretty productive...I'm all for giving Weiss the linemates, and ice time that Franzen has, and let the Mule sit in the press box.


I mean, maybe there's a perfectly good explanation for it.  My problem isn't (necessarily) that Weiss is on the fourth line, it's that nobody is even asking why.  And given his production up until the demotion, you'd think the dramatic reversal in this fortunes might be of interest to a beat reporter. 

#2560690 1/3 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Canucks 4

Posted by kipwinger on 05 January 2015 - 10:11 AM

It drives me nuts that not a single member of the press corps has asked or written about this Weiss situation.  Khans busy speculating about all-star ballots, while St. James is making up trade rumors involving Tatar.  Neither, apparently, have the time to ask actual questions about real team issues.  Garbage. 

#2560283 Pens aquire David Perron from Oilers

Posted by kipwinger on 03 January 2015 - 11:34 AM

Perron would have helped our offense. Now he is going to help the Pens offense and they gave very little. Holland could've beat that offer and should've. Abby and Franzen are not top 6 players and aren't getting it done. Perron would've been an upgrade over both of them in our top 6.


Perron, given his skill set, would not have been competing for a spot with Franzen and Abby.  He would have been competing with Nyquist and Tatar...both of whom are better.  Babcock likes a big bodied puck retrieval type guy on each line ideally.  So even if we got Perron, he'd still keep Abby and/or Franzen in the top six.  Do you honestly think Mike Babcock would put Perron on one wing and Tatar or Nyquist on the other?  Keep dreaming dude. 


I get that you've got a lot wrapped up in this "Holland is stupid and lazy" thing, but he shouldn't pursue EVERY available player just because he could, theoretically, beat the best offer.  If it doesn't address a need then he shouldn't do it.  And Perron doesn't address a need. 


I'd be with you if it were a good puck mover, or a big forward.  But what does Perron do that Tatar, Nyquist, and Weiss don't do better?  And like I said, given Babs' preferences, those are the guys he'd be competing with for a spot in the top six.  Not Helm, Abby, or Franzen. 

#2560280 Pens aquire David Perron from Oilers

Posted by kipwinger on 03 January 2015 - 11:05 AM

Why the hell would the Wings want David Perron?  You guys are acting like we've lost out on some huge need here.  Perron is a good player, but he's not some big, goal scoring, power forward.  He's an smallish, offensive, skilled player.  We've got so many of those that Stephen Weiss is currently playing on the fourth line.  We have ZERO need for David Perron, so lets not cry over spilled milk. 

#2560268 Winter Classic lowest rating ever (2,3)

Posted by kipwinger on 03 January 2015 - 08:54 AM

The league needs to let the Ave's host it at Mile High Stadium against the Wings. 


Bring back one of the greatest rivalries in Hockey! Imagine the Alumni Game they could have if they bring back the Alumni Game (Not sure why there wasn't one for Caps/Hawks), has an Alumni Game ever had a line brawl break out before? 


No Alumni game for this year's classic because Peter Bondra couldn't play every position on the ice for the Caps and Dale Hunter is still not welcome in most NHL cities...including Washington.  Without those two they're short on quality alumni in the Nation's Capital. 

#2560240 All Purpose Grand Rapids Griffins Thread

Posted by kipwinger on 02 January 2015 - 08:46 PM

Those are the kinds of goals I want to see him scoring.  I'm glad when he gets on the score board cleaning up trash in front of the crease, but I want to see him developing his shot at the pro level.  Any big body can bang in a rebound, but a big body that can bang in rebounds AND pick the corners is lethal.  Just ask Rick Nash and Jeff Carter. 

#2560232 Pens aquire David Perron from Oilers

Posted by kipwinger on 02 January 2015 - 08:10 PM

Why does everybody always say that Crosby needs a winger?  Chris Kunitz is really good.  He was a 20+ goal a year player BEFORE playing with Crosby, and he's consistently been one after playing with Crosby.  Did people think when he got put on a line with Crosby that he'd score 50?  And is that what Pittsburgh needs in order to win?  Because having two 90-100 point players and a bunch of guys that can score 15-25 goals ought to be enough...if your defense and goalie arent' terrible anyway. 

#2559829 12/29 GDT - Red Wings 2 at Bruins 5

Posted by kipwinger on 29 December 2014 - 11:42 PM


Completely inexcusable nearly all of the time -- even more in a game where the Red Wings were only shorthanded once.  


Everybody knows that you can't put Tatar and Weiss on the ice much because only bad things happen when they're out there.  Well, that and they score goals.  But mostly bad things. 


Here's a fun game to play.  Mike Babcock bitched during the game that the Bruins were playing effectively in front of the net and the Wings weren't.  Now, for funsies, go look at where Stephen Weiss scored every single one of his goals so far this season.  It'll be a hoot.

#2559507 12/29 GDT - Red Wings 2 at Bruins 5

Posted by kipwinger on 29 December 2014 - 01:41 PM

Babs doesn't want offense


I just feel bad for Weiss.  The only thing he can control is his play on the ice, and in that way he's performed exceptionally well, and yet he can't get a break.  Bummer.

#2558666 Lines Thread

Posted by kipwinger on 23 December 2014 - 12:20 PM


Agreed.  I don't know if this is to ease Weiss back into the lineup given he's only played 11 games this season, or give him less responsibility as a winger to get him going or what. 


It seemed crazy he started at wing for his return to the lineup, but Weiss managed to produce in that role.  I'd just like him to work his way back to the 2nd line center he was supposed to be.  


Or even the third line winger that he wasn't supposed to be, but seemed effective at being, and produced as. 


The fourth line part is the thing that baffles me about this most recent lineup.


But like I said above, I'm sure it will last a half a period, so I'm going to try not to get too irritated about it. 

#2558658 John Scott Butt Ends Tim Jackman's Face

Posted by kipwinger on 23 December 2014 - 11:32 AM

Maybe he didn't mean to butt end him, but he certainly meant to hit him in the face.  With the hand that was also holding his stick. 


It's a joke that this guy is in the NHL.  To anyone who's ever wondered "why don't they just get a huge guy even if he can't play hockey, put him on skates and let him beat the crap out of people," there you go.  John Scott.   He makes Derek Boogaard (RIP) look like Gretzky. 


I know you're not defending goons here, but I've got to ask, how is he any different than any other goon?


Everybody always says about Scott, "its a farce that he's in the league".  But how's he any worse than Orr, Parros, McGrattan, Westgarth, etc.?  I remember Milbury going off on Scott and how he's such a disgrace, but he was completely mum on all the other guys in the league who do the EXACT same thing on the ice.  I honestly don't care about goons so I don't pay attention, is he a particularly disgraceful goon?

#2558655 Lines Thread

Posted by kipwinger on 23 December 2014 - 11:20 AM

Makes sense to have Weiss on the line with Glendening and Miller. You wouldn't want to disrupt any of the chemistry on the other lines, especially with all three lines firing on all cylinders.....


Why not?  Babs did the same thing last year in the playoffs with Legwand and we all remember how beautifully that worked out.  But don't say his coaching stifles offense.  Heaven forbid anyone say that.


Edit:  In all fairness, I guess I should acknowledge that he's going to change all the lines about 30 seconds into the game so what does it matter?  Put Kindl at forward to start the game for all the difference that would make. 

#2558646 Are the Wings a Contender?

Posted by kipwinger on 23 December 2014 - 09:14 AM

idk man.
I just.
Im just not sure


The give away for me was the alliteration in the post.  Really, Reilly, O'Reilly, Really. 


******* literary devices in internet posts, what will the think of next!?!

#2558562 12/21 GDT : Avalanche 2 at Red Wings 1 (SO)

Posted by kipwinger on 22 December 2014 - 03:34 PM



"He attended the Detroit Red Wings' development camp prior to the 2001–02 season,[4] before signing a contract with the Ottawa Senators on June 2, 2002."


Oh what could have been!


Be still, my heart.