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#2508513 Maple Leafs Name Shanahan New Club President

Posted by kipwinger on 10 April 2014 - 06:35 PM

Out of the frying pan and into the fire for Shanny.  He traded the second most scrutinized job in hockey for the first most scrutinized job in hockey.  Geesh, we get it already, you're not afraid of the pressure!

#2507767 Lightning sign GM Yzerman to contract extension

Posted by kipwinger on 09 April 2014 - 06:50 PM


My issue with him isn't his past. My issue is he seems to be very complacent. It happens to the best of them, but, sometimes it's best for both parties to move on. 


He's not complacent, he does lots of things to improve the team.  Your problem with him is that you don't agree with those things.  In the past three years he signed Alfredsson, Weiss, Gustavsson, Tootoo, and Samuelsson, and traded for Quincey and Legwand.  Conservatively speaking that an acquisition of three top six forwards (Legwand, Alfie, Weiss), two bottom six forwards, and a backup goalie who's currently playing better than our starter.  He also locked up Datsyuk for the remainder of his career, and signed Jimmy, Smith, and most of our young guys to cap friendly contracts. 


That's a s*** ton.  If you don't like it, fine, I'm not here to convince you.  But don't mask your objection in this "he's complacent" language because it's demonstrably false. 

#2507401 Lightning sign GM Yzerman to contract extension

Posted by kipwinger on 08 April 2014 - 08:07 PM


What about the last few years?  Don't count or matter?


Yeah because making the playoffs is horrible. 


He's only been GM for the last 15 years or so, not the last 22.


I think that would fall under the "successfully help build your organization to the pinnacle of your industry" part.  He was the head of scouting before he was the GM.  Given how good our scouting was during his tenure (Fedorov, Lidstrom, Osgood, McCarty, Konstantinov, etc. etc. etc.) I'd say his work qualifies as "helping build the organization". 

#2507071 Lightning sign GM Yzerman to contract extension

Posted by kipwinger on 07 April 2014 - 09:15 PM


Nothing like having immunity at your job.  It'd be nice if we all had that, eh?


Successfully help build your organization to the very pinnacle of your industry and then keep it there for 22 years and you might.

#2507022 Lightning sign GM Yzerman to contract extension

Posted by kipwinger on 07 April 2014 - 05:32 PM

Can Yzerman win something...anything...before we go anointing him the next best thing.  He's only made the playoffs twice in his tenure, hasn't won a conference championship, and hasn't ever made it to the Cup finals.  You'd think the Lightening were absolutely dominant the way people bestow praise on him. 


I know all the homers love the thought of Stevie Y coming back to Detroit and being a Wing again.  I love that story too.  But what if he comes back and we're worse?  What if Holland's just that much better?  What if Stevie isn't capable of finding those late round gems (lost in all this "Holland Sucks" talk is the fact that he drafted Jurco, Nyquist, Tatar, Sheahan, Marchenko, Sproul, Quellet, and Mrazek lately)?  What if Steve's only ever the thing he's been up till now, a .500 GM at the playoff level? 


Not so romantic now is it? 


Until he wins and proves he's a qualified candidate, I don't want him anywhere near the Detroit Red Wings General Manager's Office.

#2506962 The forgotten lines

Posted by kipwinger on 07 April 2014 - 11:02 AM

Jimmy Hoffa has a better chance of playing in a Red Wings playoffs game than Jordin Tootoo or Mikael Samuelsson. 

#2506868 Backes on playing against Malkin and Crosby

Posted by kipwinger on 06 April 2014 - 12:53 PM

I love Backes, but this is pretty indefensible.  Boo to him.

#2505627 Ovechkin and ES

Posted by kipwinger on 03 April 2014 - 08:52 PM

Just thinking of other guys that were known to be lazy at times, in their end.... Hull, Federov, Modano, Mario, Jagr, Selanne, Bure, Yzerman for the first 10 years of his career, Hossa, etc etc..... Most of those guys didn't learn to play D or on every shift until later in their careers.


Now I do wonder how many on here complaining about ovie efforts defend Franzen? How many defended Federov? How many would change their tune if ovie was here?


BTW, I hope Oates pisses him off and he demands a trade. A line of Z-Datsyuk-Ovie would be the best in the NHL, and it wouldn't even be close!


When you talk about Fedorov are you talking about the two time Selke Trophy winning Sergei Fedorov?  The one who learned to play hockey in the Soviet Red Army system which essentially created the "two way forward"?  That Sergei Fedorov?

#2505477 Toews

Posted by kipwinger on 03 April 2014 - 10:10 AM


Im starting to wonder if he really believes what he says or if he just says all this nonsense for ratings and attention....


He's the NHL version of Skip Bayless?

#2505454 4/2 GDT - Bruins 2 at Red Wings 3

Posted by kipwinger on 03 April 2014 - 08:44 AM

Anybody remember that time Ken Holland said that Nyquist was not going to be a "savior" or something like that?  I know what he meant and all, but how much more wrong could he have been?

#2504522 Detroit could be dangerous come playoff time...

Posted by kipwinger on 02 April 2014 - 10:30 AM

I'm really not trying to be a pessimist, but I'm still not a believer in our defense...even with Ericsson back in the lineup.  They're a sieve, and Jimmy isn't standing tall behind them like he did a year ago. 

#2504371 Ovechkin and ES

Posted by kipwinger on 01 April 2014 - 12:56 PM

How many of those awards are heavily inflated by his scoring? He's a competitor for sure but I don't think I'd make him a captain.


But that's not what you said.  You called him a complimentary player...and he's not.  I'd agree that there are better players in the league, or guys that are better leaders  or whatever.  But to say he's a complimentary player is silly.  He had four 100 points seasons while being the primary offensive threat on his team. 


You're saying he's not "the guy" because he doesn't play defense...and he doesn't, I agree.  But lots of guys don't play defense yet still get credit for being first rate players.  Certainly nobody would call Kessel, Vanek, Kane, etc. complimentary players.  But for whatever reason it's popular these days to downplay just how good Ovechkin is...even if he could be better.

#2504152 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by kipwinger on 31 March 2014 - 12:55 PM

Don't think we can find someone for kindl? The term 3 yrs might be a problem but his cap isn't that high


I think you could trade him.  I just don't think the return would be great, but who cares right? 

#2504094 The Edmonton Oilers Mystery

Posted by kipwinger on 31 March 2014 - 09:49 AM

They've got like 40 guys on their team that need the puck to be effective.  There's only one puck.  Trade a couple superstars for really good depth/role guys and use the freed up money to land a quality free agent or two.  Look at what Columbus has been able to do with half the assets.  Do that. 


Oh, if management/coaching could collectively pull their heads out of their asses that would be a big help. 

#2503970 Avery vs. Brodeur

Posted by kipwinger on 30 March 2014 - 07:23 PM

Au contraire , mon ami: I've got Jen Murphy, known across our hockey league as The Jenerator. As a defensive pairing, our goalie once informed us that we'd gone 11 games in a row without getting scored upon. Murph is a Class IV white water kayaker. An excellent mountain biker. Restored her own 63 Volvo. Dabbles in triathlons. Is too smart to ever go out with Avery or Phanuef. And most relevantly, is a huge Red Wing fan.

Cuthbert would be fun for a long weekend, but as far as a lifetime goes, I've got the trump card.


This is probably my favorite post ever on LGW.  Atta boy!