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#2448480 Would you want Moulson on the Wings?

Posted by kipwinger on 28 October 2013 - 12:33 PM

I'd give Buffalo Mrazek and a first for Moulson so long as A) he was interested in signing an extension, and B) they took two of our expiring contracts as well. 


To Buffalo:






To Detroit:


#2448470 What's Killing Our Offense?

Posted by kipwinger on 28 October 2013 - 12:08 PM


Head scratching moves right there. 


Get the impression he's grasping at straws?

#2447822 Splitting up Hank and Pavs

Posted by kipwinger on 25 October 2013 - 07:51 PM

I don't mind them splitting up for the time being, but I would prefer Zetterberg stay on the wing...since...you know...he's the only winger that seems to be capable of scoring goals.

#2447800 Brendan Smith

Posted by kipwinger on 25 October 2013 - 05:33 PM

I think Smith gets blamed to much for the defense's shortcomings. Quincy deserves a lot of the blame as does Kronwall.


It would be incorrect to attribute an entire team's defensive play (for good or ill) on one guy.  However, there doesn't seem to be any problem pointing out that Smith has been our worst defenseman so far this season.  Someone has to be.  Obviously he's not to blame for stinkers like the Ottawa game, but I don't think it's unreasonable to ask "why is our worst defenseman playing top line minutes against Ottawa".  It's pretty much universally agreed that Smith has tremendous upside, and that he should be given an opportunity to work out the kinks in his game.  However, he shouldn't be allowed to do so at the expense of the team, or of other guys who have been playing better.  I think that is what many people feel, and I realize that could easily be misunderstood as "blaming Smith". 


Secondly, in spite of the fact that Kyle Quincey is an easy target to be a whipping boy around here, he's been incredibly solid so far this season and in no way deserves the kind of antipathy he receives on this forum. 

#2447660 What's Killing Our Offense?

Posted by kipwinger on 24 October 2013 - 05:08 PM

There are a few reasons why our offense is struggling right now.  First, in years past we've always been a league leader (or nearly league leader) in defensive scoring.  With Lids, Kronwall, Rafalski, and before that Schneider we always had d-men who put up good point totals.  We don't anymore and our GAA suffers because of it.  Secondly, Babs needs to stop being experimental with our lines.  We already know who our centers are going to be down the stretch, and we already know who three of the top wingers are going to be.  Let them play where they're supposed to and start forming chemistry.  This mix and mash s*** has got to stop.  Finally, we need to sort out what we expect out of guys and where they fit on the team, if anywhere.  At some point we've got to get past the point of "competing for a spot" and get guys in the positions they've earned so that they can form some chemistry.  Having more than enough players competing for jobs is good in training camp, it's bad when you're a month into the season.  At this point I'd like to see something like this...







I don't want Dats and Z separated permanently.  But I also don't want Alfie and Weiss together until they are both VERY comfortable with the system, I don't want two guys learning the system on the same line at the same time.  I feel that Dats would work well with Alfie in order to get him going, and Zetterberg would work with Weiss for the same reason.  Also, when Helm and Eaves get healthy this would all be reevaluated but until then, I like this the best.

#2447638 stephen weiss

Posted by kipwinger on 24 October 2013 - 02:25 PM

During last night's telecast, Mickey stated that because Weiss is coming off injuries and because he's coming from a team with relatively no system, he believes Weiss won't begin to hit his stride until about the 20 game mark.  Because Mickey has played professional hockey and therefore knows how hard it is to go from team to team, system to system, and bounce back from injury, I'm going to go with his assessment. 


That said, Weiss hasn't lived up to expectations.  Which is hard for me to say because I lobbied hard for the guy in the offseason and was thrilled when he was signed. 

#2447515 10/23 GDT: Senators 6 at Red Wings 1

Posted by kipwinger on 23 October 2013 - 08:57 PM

Just got home... cliff notes on why it's 6-1?


Because our lines change every two minutes.  According to Bab's philosophy line chemistry is for weak minded p*ssies who don't "want it enough".

#2447445 10/23 GDT: Senators 6 at Red Wings 1

Posted by kipwinger on 23 October 2013 - 08:25 PM

In an effort to salvage this game, I think Babs should shuffle the lines at least two or three more times in the third.  Other than Pavs, Hank, and Kronwall, every player is just as good as every other players.  Our entire team is interchangeable from game to game.

#2447035 Ouellet Debut Tonight

Posted by kipwinger on 22 October 2013 - 10:27 AM

As I mentioned in another thread, it's not Quincey's job to make Smith look good.  Quincey is playing good hockey for us right now, and he stepped up huge for us last night against a VERY good hockey team.  Last year when Quincey struggled, I didn't hear anyone saying that it was somehow Smith's job to make him look good, so where does this expectation come from?  Good on Smith for having a good game last night, but that's no reason to throw the baby out with the bath water.  As of right now he's our weakest defenseman and if he needs a rookie prospect as a partner to bring out the best in his game then he's got a very very very long way to go before we can say he's ready for a bigger role.

#2447031 Brendan Smith

Posted by kipwinger on 22 October 2013 - 10:05 AM

In case some of you missed it, Kyle Quincey stepped up big time last night against a VERY good hockey team and played pretty damned well.  Probably the best d-man on the ice aside from Dekeyser.  I have no idea why people are saying he's the most expendable, or that he's holding back Smith's development.  The only thing holding Smith back is lack of experience and dim witted decision making, not Kyle Quincey, he's been very good this year.


Also, kudos to Jakub Kindl for his minutes last night.  While I noticed him turning the puck over A LOT, I had no idea the kind of minutes he logged for the first time in his NHL career.  Atta boy kid. 


Finally, Brendan Smith.  Good game.  Keep it up.

#2445862 stephen weiss

Posted by kipwinger on 18 October 2013 - 01:01 PM

why don't you read the post again, I said that's the way he looks. whether he's better down the road remains to be seen. And also stating facts isn't roasting the guy, he hasn't looked good. Nobody is patronizing you I just generally recommend you calm down everybody was discussing hockey calmly and you come in with expletives.


I've got anger issues, everybody knows that.  It's why I self-censor my own curse words on these threads.  Yet, nothing will make me turn into the Hulk quicker than some reactionary fan claiming a guy on our team is "slow", "terrified", or like "Robert Lang" and then immediately backpedaling once called on it. 


If you had only said that he hasn't looked as good as you'd like, we wouldn't be discussing this.  You went above and beyond that when describing him the way you did.  To use your words, you "roasted him".  And now you're trying to worm your way out from under it. 


It's nothing personal, or unique.  You're just another in a long line of posters on these forums who makes up ridiculous b.s. to get under people's skins and then backpedals when called on it in order to be argumentative.  It's actually pretty stale by now, but foolishly I still can't help involving myself.

#2445829 stephen weiss

Posted by kipwinger on 18 October 2013 - 09:56 AM

I hope he gets better too but let's be honest he hasn't been good on the boards mainly because he loses the Puck before he even gets there. it hasn't been a revolving door he has played with the same players since training camp except the For Abby.

Wasn't roasting the guy the whole point of the post was to find out if anybody has seen him play better, take a deep breath buddy.


Thanks for the advice, I don't know how I'd be able to discuss hockey calmly without your patronizing asides.  Also, if you're going to claim you're not "roasting the guy" perhaps you shouldn't describe him as "slow", "terrified", and "more like Robert Lang than Filppula".

#2445816 10/17 GDT : Red Wings 4 at Avalanche 2

Posted by kipwinger on 18 October 2013 - 08:49 AM


Don't think he had anything to do with that play in particular.  Lee Harvey Oswald killed Kennedy


Disagree here as well.  Thought Kindl played well for the most part and looked deft in our end.  Thought he stepped up when Kronner went down

AND ALSO, Mule did it all today. Finished shots, went down to block shots, finished checks... BRAVO.  


The hit on Kronner might have awaken the beast, but just looking at stats, through 8 games he has 5 points. 


If Mule finishes with 50 points this year, who is going upset?


New in town eh?

#2445814 stephen weiss

Posted by kipwinger on 18 October 2013 - 08:45 AM

It wasn't too long ago that a significant portion of this forum were talking about how washed up Alfie is, and then he rattled off a zillion points in about two minutes and everybody shut the f*ck up. 


And then they switched over to Franzen...until last night.


Now Weiss...ugh.

#2445426 10/17 GDT : Red Wings 4 at Avalanche 2

Posted by kipwinger on 17 October 2013 - 09:17 PM

Yeah, Alfie's back on the ice.