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#2488098 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by kipwinger on 28 February 2014 - 11:43 PM

Totally disagree with you .... Buffalo sabres as a team sucks .


I don't understand your point?  Myers can't be bad because the team's bad?  He's a defensive defenseman who gets lost in coverage.  Who's fault is that if not his?

#2488089 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by kipwinger on 28 February 2014 - 11:37 PM

Textbook case of the grass is always greener.  Tyler Myers is infuriatingly bad at defense.  He's like Jack Johnson without the offense or the coordination.  He's not better than Quincey right now, and he probably doesn't project to be better than Smith in the long run. 


Buffalo would love to get rid of him had their s***ty former GM not given him the moon after one good year.  If you guys think Quincey, Smith, Kindl are mistake prone you will lose your minds watching this guy.  He's not a defensive upgrade in any manner.  Don't believe the hype.

#2487932 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by kipwinger on 28 February 2014 - 05:40 PM

Haa zubov is the man (friends friend) but 100 myers inconsistencies are brutal gotta remember he's playing on sabres who I seen use John Scott on D lol


I think Scott actually started his NHL career as a defenseman but I don't remember.  Either way he's terrible, so I get your point.

#2487926 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by kipwinger on 28 February 2014 - 05:37 PM

Yes Ive been saying that kip, you hit it on the head I think myers has a tiny bit more upside than quincy cuz of size...


For sure he's got more upside.  But so far, he's never played up to his potential.  He gets by on his size and draft position, but he's really not very consistent at this point.  His boneheaded miscues make Smith look like Sergei Zubov. 

#2487922 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by kipwinger on 28 February 2014 - 05:31 PM

I don't think myers is solid D maybe top 4 but he certainly isn't shut down
Maybe with some proper coaching


Neither Edler nor Myers are as good as they're sometimes portrayed on this site.  Myers may not even be better than Quincey.  Edler is.  But not nearly as good as his asking price is going to be.  It's all unearned reputation that this point.  I'd rather have MacDonald than Edler.  He's as good and will cost less.

#2487903 Why did Franzen get 10 min game misconduct?

Posted by kipwinger on 28 February 2014 - 05:10 PM

Just read this article about the incident.  If it's not blatantly obvious that Neil is a stupid piece of trash by about the second sentence then I don't know what to tell you.  Whenever anybody tells me fighting is about "protecting your guys" I'm going to point to this.  Just a stupid ape wanting to fight because he wants to fight...against a goal scoring Euro...in a game that completely out of reach...based on an interaction he started...for no reason.  Idiot.



#2487890 2/27 GDT : Red Wings 6 at Senators 1, Franzen w/Hat Trick

Posted by kipwinger on 28 February 2014 - 04:49 PM

You are right to some extent -the league has handcuffed enforcers but saying there is no stopping a guy like Neil is incorrect. Neil cannot rough up someone from the penalty box after fighting our heavyweight. There is also the notion that anything he tries to do to us can be done to them. I do think Neil's team mates would be slightly less enthusiastic about his work if they realize that it will put a target on their backs. Heavyweights are still part of this league and for a reason. Holland is about the only GM that refuses to admit this and his team is paying for it. The fans too, if it means the coach is afraid to put Datsyuk out on the ice at times.


When is the coach afraid to put Datsyuk on the ice?  He plays all the time...when he's not nursing an injury.  Also, how is the team "paying for" not having an enforcer?

#2487880 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by kipwinger on 28 February 2014 - 04:13 PM


Indeed, Kesler was definitely "that guy." Growing up he basically hated the Wings.


People said the same thing about Wisniewski.  Right now I'd kill for either of "those guys". 



Edit:  Just thought of something.  Obviously the lines would skake out differently, but just imagine how awesome a line of Tatar-Kesler-Jurco would be?  Since in an ideal world Kesler is the EXACT type of center we hope Sheahan will be. 

#2487871 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by kipwinger on 28 February 2014 - 03:48 PM

Lebrun is just throwing out names, hoping something will stick.


Obviously they're all speculating.  That's the nature of the rumor game.  But there are those rumor mongers who are informed and generally more credible (LeBrun, McKenzie, Deger) and those that aren't (Richardson, Eklund, Garrioch). 


I agree that it's incredibly unlikely that Kesler becomes a Wing, and probably unlikely that he's moved at all.  But Lebrun is not really known for just pulling sh*t out of his ass as you're suggesting.

#2487865 Very Chris Very, Very Osgood...very

Posted by kipwinger on 28 February 2014 - 03:42 PM

Doing play by play and color commentating is far more difficult than it seems. 


Which is why they should have kept Murphy around.  He was really coming into his own.  He was like the lovable goofball that you couldn't help but laugh at.  My two favorite Murphy moments...


1) Doing a pre-game spot on dollar hotdog night from the hotdog stand.  When they delivered his order he had SEVEN hotdogs.


2)  A couple of years ago when we played Nashville in the playoffs and Murph did his pregame spot while onstage in a Nashville music hall with full backup band.  Every time he made an important point the drummer crashed on the cymbals and Murph would pump his hammy fist in the air.

#2487861 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by kipwinger on 28 February 2014 - 03:35 PM

LeBrun thinks that the Wings are in on Kesler. He is on TSN 1050 right now talking about the trade deadline. 


Wings are looking to add, but not rental players. Wants players that would be here beyond this season. 


Dude I really don't want to get my hopes up...but I would lose my s*** if the Wings landed Kesler and even a lower level puck mover (e.g. Gilbert)

#2487856 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by kipwinger on 28 February 2014 - 03:27 PM

I'm no Kyle Quincey fan, but that seems like overpayment. I think, best case scenario, MacDonald is a marginal upgrade to Quincey and I'm not even convinced of that. If the Wings are going to make a deal for a d-man and give up picks/assets, it should be for a player that solidifies the second pairing.


I agree that's a lot to give for MacDonald, but I also believe he's precisely what we need on the second pair.  He's a very efficient puck mover (Quincey's not), who has the footspeed and passing ability to mitigate a strong forecheck (Quincey doesn't).  He's DEFINITELY not a first pairing guy, but he's a MUCH better option as a puck mover on the second pair than anyone else we've got. 


As such, I'd probably be willing to overpay a little bit given that the fit is right. 

#2487207 Systems Analyst: Gap Control

Posted by kipwinger on 26 February 2014 - 10:45 PM

As soon as I read "gap control" and "hurricanes" I knew Semin was the goal scorer.  That guy's wrister is unreal.

#2486825 2/26 GDT - Red Wings 2 at Canadiens 1 (OT)

Posted by kipwinger on 26 February 2014 - 12:25 PM

Jesus what a mess those lines are.  Wouldn't it be nice to be in a situation where just once we knew what our lines were largely going to look like for a prolonged period of time.  Like, the lines would be set and if individual players were injured the only question would be which players would step in for the injured guy...not how the injury would affect all four of our lines, plus our scratches, plus who plays in what  positions.  Ugh.  Soooooo old. 

#2486660 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by kipwinger on 25 February 2014 - 02:25 PM

Next season's need is most definitely defense.  This D needs to be re-tooled and not include the likes of Q or K or, and I hate to say it, Smith.  Not unless they hang on to Smith and he proves next season that he can make the jump to a full time reliable guy.  I think you look at the D and keep Kronner, E and Diesel as your core, everyone else is up in the air.  Laser makes a good #7 relief guy, but again, hasn't grabbed that #6 spot by the horns and probably won't. So outside of those 3 keepers, the other 4 are very expendable and that is the reason we are doing not so good this season.  We need a top line guy and 2-3 solid #3-#6 guys. 


I fully believe that our offense will be fine, maybe find a specialist out there to help the PP and/or Shoot Outs (Boyes) that won't cost too much.  But I love our kids and Mantha is just tearing up the Q.  He may not step in next season, but there is quiet the possibility...


So the way I see it is:


Kronwall - Top Line Guy

Ericsson - Solid #4

Dekeyser - Solid #5



...I know Almqvist is out of options, but I do not see him on this team and would be better served in a package or just get a pick for him.


I agree we need to improve the defense.  I also agree that we need to cut loose of Kindl and Quincey.  BUT I have to disagree about Smith.  As much as I think he's a bonehead and god awful at playing defense, I also used to say the same thing about Ericsson.  I'd want to give Smith the chance to grow into a real player...BUT...that means being firmly entrenched as the THIRD PAIR puck mover and nothing more.  I don't want that s*** for brains anywhere near the second pair until he outplays someone and takes their spot.  Until then, third pair puck mover and a "good luck kid".  Let him sink or swim without Kindl or Quincey to take the fall for him.  If he does...great.  If not...no harm done because he's on the third pair.