Mantha = Untouchable. Period. Sure he is unproven at the NHL level, but he is the real deal.
Helm, Smith, Pulkkinen should be enough for a guy who is "uncoachable" in EDM. Helm could be a leader there and would instantly be the best defensive forward. Smith is still young enough to have untapped potential, especially in a larger role, and Pulk is one of our top prospects and has been touted as a future 2nd liner in the NHL.
What makes me laugh is, every time someone talks about trading Helm (for example) people here scream, NO, why trade your best penalty killer, the best bottom 6'er in the league, etc...etc... He is so great at his position, he is invaluable. Yet, when his name is tossed around in acquiring something we need, in the same breath they say Helm would not get us anything is trade. Either he is one of the best defensive forwards in the league or he is our scraps. He has huge trade value, and guarantee 29 other teams would love to have him. I understand your love for him, but he is either good or bad. I believe he is good enough to package and get something we need, and with Sheahan and Glendening, Helm is very tradable. We wouldn't really miss him too much.
I agree with a couple of your points. Largely that Mantha is untouchable, and the previously mentioned trade packages are overkill. But I disagree with a couple of things.
1) When has Hall every been considered "uncoachable" and who made the claim? I've never heard that. As far as I knew, he was the only one of their young kids who didn't have an attitude problem. I've heard that about Yakupov, RNH, and Eberle (to a lesser extent), but not Hall.
2) Just because other people were offering too much, doesn't mean that you aren't offering too little. Taylor Hall is a very good player. You'd certainly have to give up a bigger piece than Helm as the cornerstone of any deal. Probably Nyquist + Smith + middling prospect would get it done. Helm as a center piece in that trade would get you laughed off the phone.
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