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#2550131 CBJ's Jack Johnson files for bankruptcy

Posted by kipwinger on 20 November 2014 - 10:41 AM

But didn't he go to Michigan?  Lol.  I thought they hold their student athletes to a higher standard?


He and Frank Clark are shining examples of what being a "Michigan Man" is all about!

#2550121 Mantha getting closer.

Posted by kipwinger on 20 November 2014 - 10:17 AM

Here's an interesting tidbit I just ran across in a Khan article about Nestrasil...


"[Nestrasil] would have been buried further down the depth chart once Pavel Datsyuk and Weiss return from injuries and after the club promotes top prospect Anthony Mantha, which it will likely do if he produces in the AHL the next few weeks."


The bolded part is interesting because until very recently Khan had repeatedly taken the stance that as a result of his injury (and lost training camp), it would be unlikely that Mantha would crack Detroit's roster this season.  This sounds almost definitive.  As in, someone told Khan (off the record) that he'll be promoted if he plays well out of the game.  Usually Khan's good about acknowledging when he's speculating.  That doesn't seem to be the case here. 

#2550119 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by kipwinger on 20 November 2014 - 10:10 AM

Look how long it's taking Helm to get back into his former playing shape after missing so much time.  Khan just did an article on it the other day where he quoted Babs as saying something to the effect of "he's barely played for two seasons, it's going to take him a while to get back into form". 


Now apply the EXACT same thing to Weiss.  Only make it more complicated because he's learning a new system, has a coach that doesn't think he's "earned anything", and he's often asked to play the wing (which he already stated he hasn't done since he was a child). 


Yeah, I'd imagine it will take a little while. 


Well, that or he sucks and wants to sit back and collect money.  Weiss sucks!  Weisps Sux!  Werps Sercks!  Wasps stung!  Durka dur!

#2550118 Smith and Ericcsson?

Posted by kipwinger on 20 November 2014 - 10:01 AM

There's not, on my part anyway, but this just seems careless. Considering where the team was at that point in the game, (up by 4, 11 minutes left and 6 mins by the time his penalty was over) he shouldn't have been back out. It was pointless for him to come back out, and now his hand is worse off than it had to be. Whether it's Smith's call, Babs' call or the training staff, it could have been avoided. It's more about the situation than a minor injury that occurs constantly throughout the season. 


You're advocating holding a guy out of the remainder of the game, for a cut on his hand, because there's a possibility of infection? 


Can you even think of another time in the last 20 years that a player missed a game due to an infected cut on their hand?  That's how unlikely, and flukey, this injury is.  To suggest that someone ought to know better (regardless of the score) displays magnificent foresight, hindsight, or (more likely) both. 


Athletes want to play.  Coaches want them to play.  They're not going to sit out for something so unlikely.  Can you imagine how deep in Babs' doghouse Smith would be if he sat out the rest of the game because "maybe his hand could get an infection"?  Babs' wouldf****** lose it.

#2550108 Smith and Ericcsson?

Posted by kipwinger on 20 November 2014 - 09:13 AM

Why does there seem to be some sort of weird, pathalogical, need to assign blame to each and every little thing that happens to this team?  Smith went back out because he wanted to play, the coach probably wanted him to play, and the folks signing his checks want him to play.  A cut on his hand is a minor injury.  The kind that hockey players sustain CONSTANTLY throughout a season.  Think about all the times that you see blood in the course of a hockey season.  All of those are cuts, and all of those have the potential to get infected.  Most don't.  This one did.  It's not anyone's fault.  It just happened. 

#2550044 Smith and Ericcsson?

Posted by kipwinger on 19 November 2014 - 02:57 PM

Agreed, I feel like he's really starting to come into his own and am pretty disappointed he'll be out. Definitely hurts the team at this point in time.

As long as he's scoring I can overlook the turnovers and occasional blown coverage.  That's what he was drafted to do.  But if he's doing the latter and none of the former, I lose my patience pretty quickly with Riley's brother.  Sucks that he's out though, he's been earning his keep lately.

#2550035 Smith and Ericcsson?

Posted by kipwinger on 19 November 2014 - 02:27 PM

Take a bath Nick Foligno...geesh!


Seriously though, tough break.  Smith's been looking real good the last five or six games.  Hope it's just a minor setback. 

Holland has sissified the poor kid.  Smith used to fight more frequently in his younger days.  Now he's having problems due to this lame fight?    


If only Brain McGrattan were the Red Wings GM, am I right?

#2550013 Smith and Ericcsson?

Posted by kipwinger on 19 November 2014 - 01:02 PM

Nevermind, I just watched it again.  His nose is fine, his stupid mustache just made it look like he was bleeding lol.  Can Movember be over already?

#2550011 Nestrasil Waived / Claimed by Hurricanes

Posted by kipwinger on 19 November 2014 - 12:58 PM

Weiss is going down to gr for a conditioning stint, still haven't heard if datsyuk good to go.

And we have a game tomorrow, someone's coming up, right?


No.  Weiss still needs to be on the Red Wings roster to do his conditioning assignment.  In order to activate him from IR they need the spot and the cap space, as both will still count against the Wings while he's in GR.  Since they started the season with Datsyuk (and then Franzen) on IR they didn't need to send Nestrasil back down, but now that Weiss is healthy they need his spot.  They'll likely just play with one fewer guy in the press box for the game (or two) that Weiss is in GR.  There really is no big secret here.  Nestrasil waived, and Weiss activated after Nestrasil clears.

#2550004 Nestrasil Waived / Claimed by Hurricanes

Posted by kipwinger on 19 November 2014 - 12:39 PM

Probably should have done this about three weeks ago.  The kid is clearly not ready to play NHL hockey.  He works hard, and has some positives in his game, but a year ago he was only a mediocre AHL player.  Excepting him to be a decent NHL player is too much at this point in his career.

#2549949 11/18 GDT Red Wings 5 @ Blue Jackets 0

Posted by kipwinger on 18 November 2014 - 09:48 PM

Good game by all the kids.  Tatar, Sheahan, Jurco, Smith, Glendening, Nyquist.  All of them looked mighty impressive.

#2549724 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by kipwinger on 18 November 2014 - 03:26 PM

I'd rather just be patient and and see what we have in Mantha/Pulk before making a trade just for the sake of trading.  Mantha has the tools and skillset to become that big, top six winger that we're looking for and there are a number of D-men that could become available at the trade deadline (and in our system at GR).  No sense in making a trade this early into the season.


I agree with your sentiment, I mean, we're still a playoff caliber team and all.  There's time to wait for sure.  But the problem with the wait and see approach is that everyone else gets older.  Which would be fine if our best players were Patrick Kane or Sidney Crosby.  But they aren't.  Our best players are 33-36 years old.  Even if Mantha and Pulks and one or two of the kid defensemen turn into something special, they're not going to do it as rookies. They're going to do it in 2 or 3 years when Dats is cooling his heals in Russia and Zetterberg's a cripple. 




And yes, no s***. He most likely won't do anything. Ever. Or at least that's how it feels as a Wings fan these days.


That's not true, he'll sit on his prospects.  Move a few of them onto the big club and lose a few to the cap crunch.  And if we win a cup with Nyquist and Mantha...even if it's 10 years from now, everyone will gush over what a genius he is.  "Because sometimes the best move is the one you don't make". 

#2549718 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by kipwinger on 18 November 2014 - 03:11 PM

Ladd would be nice as would Wheeler but I don't think Winnipeg will do anything before the trade deadline and then some heavy hitters will (again) go all in.


The best option would be going hard and seriously after Boychuck = making the best offer of all clubs if still decides to sign elsewhere the Wings would have at least given it their best shot.


Good call.  Not surprised that you think the best way to improve our offense is to "go hard" after a defensive defenseman whose career high is 23 points.  Because we clearly don't already have that in Dekeyser. 


This thread is about producing more points.  Boychuk, regardless of his other talents, isn't going to contribute to that in any way.  So maybe you can "go hard" over Boychuk in a more appropriate thread...or in the privacy of your own home?


It wasn't really a knock on him, he's just not the type of player I'm talking about.  We need a 30-35 goal scorer.


Agreed.  I though you were suggesting he wasn't living up to expectations.  Yeah, he's not a top six winger...yet. 


Ladd? Boychuck? I think Holland will probably wait until the offseason and just sign some of these guys as UFAs.   :ninja:


Ken Holland?  Ken Holland the Red Wings GM?  Will sign these guys in the offseason?  The hockey offseason?


No he won't. 

#2549684 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by kipwinger on 18 November 2014 - 12:10 PM

I also think that the "type" of scoring winger matters as well.  I don't want another guy who plays the exact same way as the guys we've already got.  A power forward type (Stafford, Ladd) or pure goal scorer (Semin) would be preferable to another two way guy that's good for 50 pts. (mostly assists).  I think we really need to diversify our offensive attack. 

#2549537 11/16 GDT : Montreal Canadiens 4 at Red Wings 1

Posted by kipwinger on 17 November 2014 - 11:57 AM

All I see is Sean Avery listed 4 times


Sean Avery lying on a down comforter 4 times.  Bunch of nancy rats.