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#2447031 Brendan Smith

Posted by kipwinger on 22 October 2013 - 10:05 AM

In case some of you missed it, Kyle Quincey stepped up big time last night against a VERY good hockey team and played pretty damned well.  Probably the best d-man on the ice aside from Dekeyser.  I have no idea why people are saying he's the most expendable, or that he's holding back Smith's development.  The only thing holding Smith back is lack of experience and dim witted decision making, not Kyle Quincey, he's been very good this year.


Also, kudos to Jakub Kindl for his minutes last night.  While I noticed him turning the puck over A LOT, I had no idea the kind of minutes he logged for the first time in his NHL career.  Atta boy kid. 


Finally, Brendan Smith.  Good game.  Keep it up.

#2445862 stephen weiss

Posted by kipwinger on 18 October 2013 - 01:01 PM

why don't you read the post again, I said that's the way he looks. whether he's better down the road remains to be seen. And also stating facts isn't roasting the guy, he hasn't looked good. Nobody is patronizing you I just generally recommend you calm down everybody was discussing hockey calmly and you come in with expletives.


I've got anger issues, everybody knows that.  It's why I self-censor my own curse words on these threads.  Yet, nothing will make me turn into the Hulk quicker than some reactionary fan claiming a guy on our team is "slow", "terrified", or like "Robert Lang" and then immediately backpedaling once called on it. 


If you had only said that he hasn't looked as good as you'd like, we wouldn't be discussing this.  You went above and beyond that when describing him the way you did.  To use your words, you "roasted him".  And now you're trying to worm your way out from under it. 


It's nothing personal, or unique.  You're just another in a long line of posters on these forums who makes up ridiculous b.s. to get under people's skins and then backpedals when called on it in order to be argumentative.  It's actually pretty stale by now, but foolishly I still can't help involving myself.

#2445829 stephen weiss

Posted by kipwinger on 18 October 2013 - 09:56 AM

I hope he gets better too but let's be honest he hasn't been good on the boards mainly because he loses the Puck before he even gets there. it hasn't been a revolving door he has played with the same players since training camp except the For Abby.

Wasn't roasting the guy the whole point of the post was to find out if anybody has seen him play better, take a deep breath buddy.


Thanks for the advice, I don't know how I'd be able to discuss hockey calmly without your patronizing asides.  Also, if you're going to claim you're not "roasting the guy" perhaps you shouldn't describe him as "slow", "terrified", and "more like Robert Lang than Filppula".

#2445816 10/17 GDT : Red Wings 4 at Avalanche 2

Posted by kipwinger on 18 October 2013 - 08:49 AM


Don't think he had anything to do with that play in particular.  Lee Harvey Oswald killed Kennedy


Disagree here as well.  Thought Kindl played well for the most part and looked deft in our end.  Thought he stepped up when Kronner went down

AND ALSO, Mule did it all today. Finished shots, went down to block shots, finished checks... BRAVO.  


The hit on Kronner might have awaken the beast, but just looking at stats, through 8 games he has 5 points. 


If Mule finishes with 50 points this year, who is going upset?


New in town eh?

#2445814 stephen weiss

Posted by kipwinger on 18 October 2013 - 08:45 AM

It wasn't too long ago that a significant portion of this forum were talking about how washed up Alfie is, and then he rattled off a zillion points in about two minutes and everybody shut the f*ck up. 


And then they switched over to Franzen...until last night.


Now Weiss...ugh.

#2445426 10/17 GDT : Red Wings 4 at Avalanche 2

Posted by kipwinger on 17 October 2013 - 09:17 PM

Yeah, Alfie's back on the ice.

#2445205 10/17 GDT : Red Wings 4 at Avalanche 2

Posted by kipwinger on 17 October 2013 - 07:18 PM

I sure would like to see the Wings score enough to make Roy have a sh*t fit over some innocuous happening.  Watching him act like a jackass in the face of defeat is one of the only truly enjoyable things I've got in my life.

#2445188 10/15 GDT : Blue Jackets 1 at Red Wings 2

Posted by kipwinger on 17 October 2013 - 05:08 PM


Agreed. But I think I like Zetterberg as a scoring force more.


Yeah, he's playing like an absolute beast right now.  It'll be fun to watch if he can keep up a similar pace for much of the season.  If we can keep spreading out the offense, and especially if the second line can get sorted out, I believe he can.

#2445186 10/17 GDT : Red Wings 4 at Avalanche 2

Posted by kipwinger on 17 October 2013 - 05:01 PM

 No, I know. The defensive corps is looking pretty good right now. It's not that I think someone is playing bad enough to be taken out in Smith's place. I just hope he can get worked back in.

Smith has the potential to be a better version of Quincey or Kindl, though it hasn't looked like it lately. But he needs to get back out there to ever find out. I could see him taking Lashoff's spot if he stumbles.


I haven't seen every game but the ones of Smith I did see, his problems didn't even seem so much bad decision making as he just looked bad on his skates. Like he was flailing around or something. Easily pushed around, off balance. It's strange.


I agree with this, provided he maxes out his potential.  There are a few things though that I think he could do to really improve his game so far.  In the d-zone he tends to puck watch and loses his man, and then he's caught running around trying to catch up.  He's really got to work on staying in his spot and not drifting toward the puck.  Offensively, he doesn't seem to respond very well to pressure from the forecheck.  When pressured, he'll make bad passes.  I'd like to see him use his skating ability (his best asset) to relieve that pressure before he passes.  A couple of strides before the pass would help a lot in that regard.  Finally, until he's got the experience and comfort level he needs to jump into the play safely, he should only rush to a point.  I don't want to see him completely stop his jumps, but he typically ends up way too low for his own good.  Until he's got a better grip on when and where he can do it safely I'd prefer he pull up and get back into position before he reaches the dots.

#2445162 10/17 GDT : Red Wings 4 at Avalanche 2

Posted by kipwinger on 17 October 2013 - 02:48 PM

This literally had me laughing out loud. Zing sir. Zing.


I aim to please.

#2445142 3 in a row.... I'll take it!

Posted by kipwinger on 17 October 2013 - 12:34 PM

BTW the RW are the second oldest team in the NHL. But of course that isn't the point of this thread. I said before the season I thought we would start of well. Our speed and skill would be an advantage for the first 30-50 games. Our D is playing well-expected, our G's are playing well-expected, and we are struggling to score-also expected. At some point we need a second line to gel, which hasn't happened as of yet.

But so far, so good. Enjoy it while it lasts!


They're the fourth oldest team in the league behind New Jersey, Florida, and Pittsburgh.  But you're right, it's not the point of this thread.



#2445116 Accidental or intentional hit by Brouwer?

Posted by kipwinger on 17 October 2013 - 11:15 AM

I mean, it doesn't really matter does it.  You're responsible for not hitting guys in the head, accidentally or not.  He doesn't have a history of this, which should keep the punishment to a minimum, but at the end of the day you can't do that.

#2445114 10/17 GDT : Red Wings 4 at Avalanche 2

Posted by kipwinger on 17 October 2013 - 11:12 AM

Hand the Avs there first loss.
I don't think Roy will go crazy tonight, he knows Babcock could clean the ice with him.
$10 on Babs if there is a showdown.


I wonder if Babs ever fought when he played minors, or if he'd just healthy scratch anyone he didn't like.

#2445112 10/17 GDT : Red Wings 4 at Avalanche 2

Posted by kipwinger on 17 October 2013 - 11:07 AM

I miss the rivalry. Big part of my childhood.


Mackinnon was talking about watching clips of those classic games on YouTube. It made me feel old. :unhappy:




Haha, I read that too and thought the exact same thing.  For a while I was an assistant professor at Central Michigan, and trying to relate to the 18 year old freshman was an exercise in futility.  Pretty much the exact same thing going on here.

#2445052 10/15 GDT : Blue Jackets 1 at Red Wings 2

Posted by kipwinger on 16 October 2013 - 08:00 PM

I'd like to see...just for a game or two.