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#2609839 Dylan Larkin turning pro... will play for GR immediately

Posted by krsmith17 on Yesterday, 07:16 AM

I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that other teams are putting "babies on the ice and they (for the most part) do just fine"... I don't think that's very accurate. For the most part I believe that if a player is drafted anywhere between 1-5, depending on the team drafting, the type of player, the league he played in previous, how deep the draft is, etc., etc. he MAY be ready right out of the gate. After that, between 5-10 are usually ready in the second year after being drafted and anyone after that is a crap shoot. We haven't drafted in the top 10 since 1991 when we selected Martin Lapointe 10th overall, so our draft picks usually need 2+ years of developing. Of course there are always the exceptions with some later first round steals, or early first round misses, but I think that's a pretty fair guideline to go by...


Also, the average age for NHL rookies league wide, since 2000 has been between 21-22 years of age. Since 2000, 44 18 year-olds have made their NHL debut, 124 19 year-olds, 323 20 year-olds, 323 21 year-olds, 330 22 year-olds, 283 23 year-olds, 186 24 year-olds, 128 25 year-olds, 73 26 year-olds, 114 27+ years-old... I'm not sure the success rates on these players, but I think that would be very interesting... My guess would be, aside from the "can't miss" players picked in the top 3-5, the players that make their debut 21 years-old and later have the higher success rate than the players that crack the league prior to their 21st birthday. I have nothing to base this on however, purely speculation on my part...

#2609644 Dylan Larkin turning pro... will play for GR immediately

Posted by krsmith17 on 22 May 2015 - 10:43 AM

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#2609630 Coaching Search Thread a.k.a. the Jeff Blashill Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 22 May 2015 - 09:29 AM

I am very excited to see what Blashill can do with this team. But what I am most excited about is there are no guarantees where players will line up on the roster... Will Ericsson remain on the top pair? Will Smith get a look on the power-play? Will Weiss have a chance at the 2nd line center spot? Will Jurco be in the top 6(9)? Will Pulkkinen be utilized better in the offensive zone (left side faceoff circle), Will Abdelkader / Helm remain in the top 6 (not necessarily saying they shouldn't...)? Will Ferraro / Callahan get a look on the 4th line? A lot of question marks... Going to be an exciting training camp. Can't wait!!!

#2609598 Dylan Larkin turning pro... will play for GR immediately

Posted by krsmith17 on 22 May 2015 - 05:44 AM

Top 6 go-to guy in Grand Rapids >>> Bottom 6 support guy in Detroit - (in regards to what is best for his development)


Develop this kid the right way, don't rush him like we did Jurco. I understand that there is a huge difference between Larkin and Jurco, but Jurco was also a year older than what Larkin will be going into camp this season. He wasn't ready and neither is Larkin in my opinion.


Let's see what he can do in the next few weeks, but even if he puts up a point per game, I still say he should start next season in the American League...

#2609550 Dylan Larkin turning pro... will play for GR immediately

Posted by krsmith17 on 21 May 2015 - 06:42 PM

I'm as excited about this kid as anybody but I'd definitely prefer to see him spend a year down in Grand Rapids. We've been doing it (developing our prospects) right for so long, I don't want to stray from that. I do think he is our future top line center and I don't want to set him back in his development by rushing him to the bigs. People need to remember that he is still only 18 years old (will be 19 by training camp). It's not even that I don't believe he is physically ready, or that he is not skilled enough, for me, I want to make sure he is mentally ready, and I don't think many teenagers are. Let's just see what he can do over the next few weeks in the Calder Cup Playoffs before we anoint him and trade away our third line center... My prediction is he puts up a few points but doesn't dominate like many think he will. I'll say 5-7 points in 10-14 games... Either way, I was looking forward to Sunday nights game, this just adds to the excitement. Go Larkin! Go Griffins!

#2609282 Players who might be available due to teams cap issues

Posted by krsmith17 on 21 May 2015 - 06:00 AM

Do you really think it's even remotely possible that these teams are just going to let their star players walk?... Chicago WILL re-sign Seabrook, Tampa WILL re-sign Stamkos, Los Angeles WILL re-sign Kopitar, etc, etc...


In saying that, one interesting name that I have wanted on this team for a few years now is Erik Johnson. I would give up a significant amount to get him here...

#2608770 Babcock granted permission to talk to other teams

Posted by krsmith17 on 20 May 2015 - 11:54 AM

I doubt any team gives up this years 3rd so it's hard to say. It could be year 3 before we see that draft pick and any of the teams could be up or down in that time.

#2608584 All Purpose Grand Rapids Griffins Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 19 May 2015 - 01:33 PM

Against Utica we were without Pulkkinen in the 4-2 loss, but he played and had two assists in the 5-1 win...

Against Oklahoma City, Pulkkinen had the only Griffins goal in the 4-1 loss, had no points and was a -1 in the 5-2 win, had no points and a -1 in the 3-2 loss, and had a hat trick and +4 in the 7-1 win...


Mantha played all 6 games, scoring 2 goals and adding 2 assists...


Marchenko played in every game except the 7-1 win against Oklahoma, and had a goal and 2 assists in the 5 games...


Ouellet missed both games against Utica and played 2 of the 4 against Oklahoma, getting 2 assists...


Ferraro played all 6, and went pointless in all but the 5-2 win over Oklahoma where he had 2 goals... He obviously won't be playing...


Callahan played in all but the last game against Oklahoma, scoring 1 goal in 5 games... He remains on injured reserve...


Sproul played in all 6 games and racked up 6 assists... He will likely remain a healthy scratch... No idea why...

#2608519 Question for the Board regarding Babcock

Posted by krsmith17 on 19 May 2015 - 10:45 AM

The money isn't really an issue for me because it doesn't affect the cap, my biggest concern is the term. As long as we keep Blashill in the organization I'll be happy. I don't want to lose Blashill this offseason and then Babcock next (or the following) offseason. I'd be okay with keeping Babcock around for another year or two and then promote Blashill to Red Wings head coach after his contract is up for the 2017-18 season. However, I do think Babcock is overrated league wide, and I would not be disappointed if he were to sign elsewhere and we promote Blashill for the 2015-16 season... Hopefully we find out one way or another by today or tomorrow...

#2608286 All Purpose Grand Rapids Griffins Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 18 May 2015 - 09:33 AM

The Griffins are waiting to see who they'll face in the Western Conference Finals between Utica Comets and Oklahoma City Barons. Utica is up 3-2 in the series with game 6 tonight and game 7 (if Oklahoma win) on Wednesday night. The schedule for the Eastern Conference Finals between Manchester Monarchs and Hartford Wolf Pack has already been released. The ECF starts May 21st, with the first two games in Manchester on Thursday night and Saturday night, so my bet would be that the WCF would start on May 22nd, with the first two games in Grand Rapids on Friday night and Sunday afternoon...

#2608272 Babcock granted permission to talk to other teams

Posted by krsmith17 on 18 May 2015 - 08:56 AM

I think there is a very high chance that Babcock stays in Detroit. I think the Wings are his best option (best chance to win now and in the future) of the teams on the board, and his family want to stay in Michigan. In saying that, I've had mixed feelings throughout this entire process and I still remain up in the air in what I would like to see happen. Part of me wants to keep Babcock and another part thinks it's time for both he and the team to move on, and promote Blashill as the new head coach. I don't see it being at all likely that we keep both, so if we do keep Babcock then we will most definitely lose Blashill. What if Babcock does decide to re-up for just one season at a time? We lose Blashill this year and Babcock next year? I think Kenny is smarter than to allow that to happen.


I do think Babcock is very over rated and I get sick of some of his strategies and line mash ups, so I am leaning toward wanting Blash to take over. He's a great coach, and I believe he will likely win another Calder Cup with the kids this season. That will be 2 Championships in 3 years. I know the American League isn't anything close to the same as the National League but I do believe he can translate that same success to the NHL. He knows all the kids just as well or better than anyone in the system and I think he would continue doing a great job developing these guys with the big club.

#2608253 2015 Draft

Posted by krsmith17 on 18 May 2015 - 06:33 AM

I hope you're right jimmy, but with Callahan being injured for the latter half of last season, and Ferraro impressing in the last dozen games, there's no question he now has the edge going into training camp. There might not be room for both but there's no question in my mind that both are a significant upgrade over Andersson, so I will be pissed to see one of them scratched or waived in favor of Andersson... Re-sign Landon and Mitch and let Joakim walk...


As for the draft, we trade back almost every single year to grab an extra pick, with the glut of prospects we have I think we should be thinking quality over quantity, and trade up this year. I have no idea what it would take to move up around 9 or 10 but I'd love if we could and take Zach Werenski. I'm not sure if this would be enough but I'd offer a package something like...


SJS - 2015 1st (19th overall), 2016 2nd, Jakub Kindl, Xavier Ouellet


DET - 2015 1st (9th overall)

#2607940 All Purpose Grand Rapids Griffins Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 15 May 2015 - 09:30 AM

Buppy, we have taken a goaltender every second year like clockwork. We took Larsson in '06, McCollum in '08, Mrazek on '10, Paterson in '12, and Perry last year in '14. My bet is on us taking another in '16 and I really don't see it as a huge need with Mrazek in the system. Kid is the real deal and should be able to man the pipes for the next decade.

I don't see the point in saying "if Datsyuk and Zetterberg were already gone..." They're not gone and we have time for these kids to grow into legit NHL players before they do. Between Sheahan, Larkin and Athanasiou, there is not a doubt in my mind they can fill the top 3 center spots.

There are top pairing defensemen and top line forwards picked late in the first round and even in the later rounds every single year. With our track record in drafting, why would you think we can't get a top player at 18/19? Do you think we need to pick in the top 5 to get a top player? I don't...

#2607892 All Purpose Grand Rapids Griffins Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 14 May 2015 - 10:03 PM

Both were dirty goals. First was a tip-in. OT goal was a rebound. That's what I love most about this kid. He goes to the dirty areas and gets rewarded. Don't be fooled though, kids got some pretty decent wheels, hands and shot as well. Very excited to see Little Bert in the Winged Wheel in a few years.

#2607884 All Purpose Grand Rapids Griffins Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 14 May 2015 - 09:55 PM

What a beauty this kid is. Love it.