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#2552389 11/28 GDT - Red Wings @ Devils - 7:00 PM EST

Posted by krsmith17 on Today, 11:55 AM

Absolutely, which is why I said earlier "hopefully Andersson (and Lashoff) remain out". I think Cleary is a huge upgrade over Andersson. Joakim provides nothing in my opinion, he is much like Cory Emmerton was for us for a couple years. Capable of eating minutes in a crunch for the time being but no real future in the NHL.


I disagree 100% that Jurco needs to "get back to banging". He's third on the team in hits, behind our perennial leader, Abdelkader and Glendening. That's pretty damn good for the style he should be playing. That's exactly why he would do so well on Datsyuk's wing. He can bang like Abby does, but has much better hands to finish on all those opportunities.


Jurco is starting to heat up, which is a great time to get him on a scoring line with Datsyuk and Tatar.

Anyway, no worries. The lines are the exact same as last game.


Nyquist - Zetterberg - Abdelkader

Tatar - Sheahan - Franzen

Helm - Datsyuk - Weiss

Miller - Glendening - Jurco


Kronwall - Ericsson

Quincey - DeKeyser

Ouellet - Kindl

#2552365 11/28 GDT - Red Wings @ Devils - 7:00 PM EST

Posted by krsmith17 on Today, 07:17 AM

Smith will not be back tonight, he will be evaluated on Sunday to determine whether or not he will be in the lineup for the afternoon game on Sunday against Vancouver.


So I'm assuming it will be the same lineup tonight as Wednesday, (hopefully Andersson and Lashoff remain out...) but maybe some tweaks in the lines. I know we won our last game but I really hope he jumbles it up a little...


I'd like to see something like this... (the same lines I've been clamoring for since the start of the season...)


Nyquist - Zetterberg - Franzen

Tatar - Datsyuk - Jurco

Helm - Sheahan - Weiss

Miller - Glendening - Abdelkader

#2552039 Mantha getting closer.

Posted by krsmith17 on 26 November 2014 - 07:20 PM

I have both games on. 2-0 Griffins. Miele and Athanasiou.

No points for Mantha yet...

#2552030 11/26 GDT : Philadelphia Flyers 2 at Red Wings 5

Posted by krsmith17 on 26 November 2014 - 07:01 PM

I find it crazy how many people love these lines. My first thought was how awful they look... I'm not worried though, if they last the game first period, I would be surprised...

#2551973 Mantha getting closer.

Posted by krsmith17 on 26 November 2014 - 09:23 AM

Yes Rich, I am accusing you of making up stats because the stat did not exist prior to the 2004 lockout. Did you track Shanahan's hits yourself prior to that?... I'm pretty sure that is enough to discredit your stats. If you can prove Shanahan "wasn't a banger" or that he "averaged less than 1 hit per game" throughout his career, by all means, prove it, otherwise it is a made up stat...


I never once said that a power forward means fighting so I have no idea where you're getting that. You're the one that compared Mantha to Shanahan because of his fighting ability... Mantha is a power forward, Shanahan was one of the best power forwards of his era. I don't think it's fair to compare Mantha to Shanahan, especially for his fighting ability. Like has been said numerous times before, Mantha is closest to a Jeff Carter type player, and I've also heard James Neal floated around, but Shanahan? Not in my opinion...

#2551880 Inconsistency

Posted by krsmith17 on 25 November 2014 - 08:22 AM

Rich, I disagree. Tatar has been on fire as of late with 12 points (8 goals, 4 assists) in the past 12 games, which is great, but he has been the only one "on fire". Nyquist only has 4 points (3 goals, 1 assist) in his past 11 games, in which 2 of those points came in one game against Tampa, and the other came last night against Ottawa. I'm not saying he is in a massive slump, but definitely not on fire. Franzen has been extremely consistent so far this season, but doesn't have a point in his past two games, his longest stretch all season. Zetterberg has been in a bit of a slump, with just 3 assists in his past 9 games. I'm sure once Tatar cools off a little, which he inevitably will, Zetterberg will be out of his slump. Sheahan really seems to be heating up lately with 5 points (3 goals, 2 assists) in the past 5 games, and hopefully with Nyquist finding the back of the net again last night, he will heat up again.


Anyway, my point is, that while some players are on fire or heating up, some other players are slumping right now. That's just the way it is in any sport. Also, Datsyuk has been injured and Smith is out now, so you can't really say there haven't been any significant injuries...

#2551878 Mantha getting closer.

Posted by krsmith17 on 25 November 2014 - 07:54 AM

The point was that you originally compared Mantha to Shanahan because of his fighting ability, now you're just comparing them offensively, stating that "Shanny was much more willing to drop the gloves than Mantha ever has been"... My point is that he will not be dropping the gloves very often, if at all at the pro level, and if he does, I'm sure management will have a chat with him. They're not going to want their top prospect in 20 years, risk injury in fighting.


Red Wings management say a lot of things, regarding prospects but everyone knows how they like to develop their players - overripe. And while I do think Mantha will be somewhat of an exception to their rule, I don't think they're in any huge rush to get him in the NHL. Management also said that one of our top defense prospects would be making the team out of camp this year. That never happened. Because they're not ready? Nope. Ouellet is clearly ready and has already passed Kindl and Lashoff on the depth chart. Players have to put their time in with the Red Wings, nothing is ever handed to them, and that philosophy seems to have been working quite well for them. I'm not necessarily saying that Pulkkinen will be called up before Mantha, because I could see it going either way, especially depending on who they're being called up to replace, but I don't think it's as clear cut as you're trying to make it out to be...

#2551532 11/24 GDT : Ottawa Senators 3 at Red Wings 4

Posted by krsmith17 on 24 November 2014 - 01:48 PM

Weiss on playing wing tonight - "It's completely different. I played center the last two games (in Grand Rapids) and I got wing tonight, so I'll have to be on my toes"...


It really doesn't make sense to throw Weiss in the lineup in a position that he has never really played, especially when Helm has been playing quite a bit of wing this year...

#2551525 Mantha getting closer.

Posted by krsmith17 on 24 November 2014 - 01:22 PM

I couldn't agree more on Sproul. I would love for him to become a Doughty, Subban, Karlsson lite, but the key part in my above post was "especially if Babcock is still the coach by then"... We know damn well how Babcock treats his offensive minded (gifted) defensemen...

Well every game I've watched those are the pairings I've seen, so who knows... lol

#2551500 Inconsistency

Posted by krsmith17 on 24 November 2014 - 12:18 PM

Yeah Kip, I don't get why Babcock hasn't done everything he possibly could to get Callahan up here like he has with Glendening to be honest. He's basically Glendening with more scoring potential in my opinion. Maybe that's the problem lol... But seriously, he would be a great 4th liner for this team along with Glendening and Miller. Defensively responsible, great penalty killer, agitating as f*ck, can chip in a little offensively, has a knack at scoring big time goals, and could even potentially be used as a net front guy on the power-play... What's not to like right?...

#2551491 Inconsistency

Posted by krsmith17 on 24 November 2014 - 11:56 AM

Really? Who would have thunk it?... Now that you mention it though I'm pretty sure his birth certificate actually says "John Mitchell NetFrontPickingUpTrashGoals Callahan"...

#2551484 Inconsistency

Posted by krsmith17 on 24 November 2014 - 11:39 AM

I'm pretty sure NetFrontPickingUpTrashGoals is Mitch Callahan's middle name...

#2551451 Mantha getting closer.

Posted by krsmith17 on 24 November 2014 - 07:59 AM

No we don't but what's your point? Do you want our top prospect fighting? I sure as hell don't and I'm pretty confident that no one in Red Wings management want him to either, and that would include Blashill and Babcock as well.

#2551333 Nestrasil Waived / Claimed by Hurricanes

Posted by krsmith17 on 23 November 2014 - 01:46 PM

People still complaining about Cleary is absolutely hilarious. How about you actually go watch a Wings game, or if you do really watch the games, turn off your blind hate just for a couple hours and "really" watch the game. Cleary has been great, and when I say great I'm obviously not talking about "all-star" calibre great, I'm saying he has been a great bottom six guy. His skating has improved 100%, he is giving 110% effort like he always has, and he's actually having a positive impact on the games. Cleary > Nestrasil every day of the week for me... for Babcock... for Holland... and for every other player in that locker room...

#2550772 Alfie not playing this season

Posted by krsmith17 on 21 November 2014 - 12:57 PM

No big surprise there. Before the season started I kind of wanted him back, but I'm okay with him hanging them up. No shame Alfie, great career and a lock for the HOF.