@krssmith17 I agree with the first part of your statement its possible and makes sense, where I have to disagree is jagr being more likely out then Marty, Schneider is taking over in jersey and broduer became expendable, I think Lou has more pride to move Jagr especially with the season he's having and aim for high draft pick, I hope I'm wrong cuz I love the 68 in wings jersey, tho don't think he would fit
Marty is Minnesota was rumoured
Well, we'll have to agree to disagree on that. Brodeur has spent his entire career with the Devils, has won 3 Stanly Cups and will be 42 years old in a couple months. I see Marty retiring after this season as a Devil and having some sort of job with the team, maybe as a goaltender coach or something (coaching his son, Anthony to carry on the Brodeur legacy). I hope he doesn't get traded but who knows.
Jagr, on the other hand has become a nomad of the NHL since returning from the KHL, playing for 4 different teams in the past 3 years. I think his goal is to play for every NHL team before he turn 50...
Jagr will pick the team he thinks gives him the best shot at another Cup. He won't come to Detroit. That's a big overpayment for Gilbert, especially since Holland said no rentals.
I'm not saying Jagr is coming to Detroit, he probably won't but I do believe he would be a huge help down the stretch. I think a line of Jagr - Datsyuk - Franzen could be scary good.
How is Kindl and Andersson a huge over payment? Gilbert is a solid veteran that can help stabalize our back end. Kindl has potential for sure, but he has not reached it yet. Andersson is exactly what you see, decent size and doesn't use it, slow, solid on draws and a good penalty killer. Very expendable in my opinion. I'd use him as a throw in on pretty much any deal and I don't think Kindl alone would get it done for Gilbert. Maybe Kindl and a mid round pick or mid level prospect.
Hey, I'd rather throw out a proposal like that then what some other have put on here. I could have said something along the lines of Boyes and Gilbert for Samuelsson and Almqvist...
With the over crowded roster and Eaves making his debut against Vancouver tonight and Helm possible for one of the games in Alberta this weekend, just wondering what people think Kenny and Babs should do...
If I were Ken Holland...
Trade Samuelsson (retain 50% of his salary - $1,500,000) for a late round draft pick or future considerations to a struggling team with cap space (Florida, Buffalo, Calgary...)
Trade Andersson for a 2014, 3rd round draft pick to a team looking for depth at center (New York I, Buffalo, Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver...)
Trade Quincey and a 2014, 2nd and / or a 3rd round pick to either Edmonton for Ladislav Smid or Philadelphia for Nicklas Grossmann.
Promote Nyquist and Tatar full time.
If I were Mike Babcock...
Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Alfredsson
Nyquist - Franzen - Tatar
Abdelkader - Weiss - Bertuzzi
Miller - Helm - Cleary / Eaves / Tootoo
Kronwall - Ericsson
Smid or Grossmann - Kindl
DeKeyser - Smith
I think the top line would absolutely dominate once they got going. I really think that Franzen is better suited playing down the middle, getting more involved and would benefit by playing with two young, energetic players trying to prove themselves. The third and forth lines have the potential to be the best bottom two lines in the league, one big, crash and bang line and one energetic, grinding line.
Back on Topic, please. Andersson, like all Red Wing forwards, can play center OR Wing, so why does anyone think we have to slot him at 3rd or 4th line center only?
What do you mean you will just "stick with Babcock on this one"?... I guarantee if you asked Babs or any other individual that has watched even a handful of Red Wings games over the past couple years would tell you that Emmerton is way down on the totem pole... The reason he has played the past two years is because we had a lack of center depth two years ago before Andersson came up and last year Helm was injured the entire season.
There are now at least 6 better options on the team at center before Emmerton and there are even a couple better options down in Grand Rapids in my opinion. Like I said before, he is still here for one reason and one reason only; his extremely cheap cap hit...
And to answer your last question, because he is a natural center, not a winger, he has become very strong in the circle, leading the team in facoff percentage in the playoffs. But you're right, we should slide Andersson to the wing to accommodate for Emmerton, the worst player on the team, hands down... Good call...
OR he can just play 4th line center while Andersson plays wing?
What is with your man crush for "Emdog"? (which is a ridiculous nickname by the way)...
Emmerton is a dependable number 5 center for a team that runs into injuries up the middle, that is all he is. Why do you keep trying to say he is anything more than that? He wouldn't be a great 4th line center for a sh*tty team, let alone the Red Wings... Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Weiss, Helm, Abdelkader, Andersson are all better options than him. Hell, I would rather a 4th line centered by Miller or Eaves than Emmerton. The guy is expendable, but the only reason he is and probably will stick around is his ridiculously low cap hit. With everyone healthy you can be guaranteed that he will be sitting in the pressbox...
You can't be really serious right? Just cause he showed some slow motions highlights when the goalie wasn't even trying ... ?
Yes... That's exactly what I'm basing it on... Did you not read anything else in this post and just come to the conclusion that I am basing my opinion solely on this shootout goal? I could care less about the move he pulled off in the shootout. I have been saying ever since the team failed to sign him a couple months ago that I thought they would end up regreting it. The point is, there were so many other options they could have let go and given this kid a shot.
How does one not see the upside and potential to a 20 year kid that has been improving every step of the way to a 22/23+ year old that has showed little to no upside... I would prefer to keep a kid out of junior that has the potential to become an NHLer rather than keep a career AHLer / ECHLer...
The 2013-14 schedule was supposed to be released yesterday according to multiple sources but because of the delay in negotiations with the 2014 Olympics they haven't released it yet. The Florida Panthers schedule has been leaked to the public ( http://fansided.com/...chedule-leaked/ ) but I haven't heard or seen anything on any other teams yet. If anyone has seen or gets there hands on any other teams schedules before they are actually released can you please post it here. I'm hoping all teams will officially release their schedules sooner than later...
Love it and completely agree with everything you said, except like Z Winged Dangler said we definitely need to hang on to Jurco. He is going to be an unbelievable player for the Wings in a few years from now. I've watched almost every Griffins playoff game in these playoffs and he has really stood out. Anyone see his game winner lastnight? He comes through center ice with a full head of steam and splits two defenders and snaps a shot short side for the win. Beautiful goal.
CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER My Custom Lineup FORWARDS
Johan Franzen ($3.955m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Damien Brunner ($3.250m)
Valtteri Filppula ($4.000m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Viktor Stalberg ($2.250m)
Gustav Nyquist ($1.750m) / Joakim Andersson ($1.200m) / Tomas Tatar ($0.840m)
Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Danny Cleary ($1.500m)
Cory Emmerton ($0.533m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m) DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m)
Danny DeKeyser ($1.350m) / Brendan Smith ($1.750m)
Kyle Quincey ($3.775m) / Jakub Kindl ($1.500m)
Brian Lashoff ($0.725m) / GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($5.292m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m) OTHER
Buyout: Todd Bertuzzi ($0.000m)
Buyout: Mikael Samuelsson ($0.000m) ------ CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter) (these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion) SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $61,077,879; BONUSES: $1,010,000 CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $4,232,121
yup. is boston really tight on money? because it looks like he isnt going anywhere.
They have $6.6M to spend on 6 players, so yes I would consider them tight on money.
Other teams that are tight against the cap that may have to use their amnesty buyouts include...
Philadelphia - $3.3M over the cap / 2 players over the 23 man roster.
Vancouver - $0.9M over the cap / 5 players under the 23 man roster.
Chicago - $2.0M under the cap / 2 players under the 23 man roster.
Tampa Bay - $3.3M under the cap / 6 players under the 23 man roster.
Boston - $6.6M under the cap / 6 players under the 23 man roster.
Carolina - $7.6M under the cap / 6 players under the 23 man roster.
Pittsburgh - $7.8M under the cap / 5 players under the 23 man roster.
San Jose - $8.6M under the cap / 8 players under the 23 man roster.
Minnesota - $9.1M under the cap / 6 players under the 23 man roster.
Los Angeles - $10.9M under the cap / 8 players under the 23 man roster.
The Flyers, Canucks and Lightning are the only 3 teams that I would consider definites to use their amnesty buyout as they don't have any other choice. There are also another half dozen teams very likely to use theirs aswell, most likely the Bruins, Hurricanes, Sharks and Kings.
Well said Axe. The people ragging on Smith are clueless. Every Red Wings fan is aware of Smitty's mistakes and we have all found ourselves cringe when he has the puck in the defensive zone with Toews, Kane, Hossa, etc. zoning in on him. But like The Axe said, these are some of the best players in the world, and you expect a rookie to flawlessly exit the zone every time. Yes, he has made his fair share of mistakes and he might make another one in his career... The point is there is so much potential and upside to his game and there is so much experience to be gained, especially in this game 7. To say he should be benched for Ian f*cking White is absurd, and to say that he should be traded is laughable... beyond ridiculous...
Also, as matt198913 said, these same people are going to be the first to jump on Dekeyser (or whoever else...) when he struggles next season. The bottom line is, some people just love to b*tch and complain, but they're what makes the world go around, so keep it up fellas, without people like you, there would be none of these great debates.
I can't help but cringe when reading some of these comments... Filppula hasn't had a very productive year point wise but to say he isn't worth the money to resign him is flat out ridiculous. He doesn't always put up points but he is a very valuable player on both sides of the puck, whether he is pick-pocketing an opponent or spending valuable time in the offensive zone wearing down the other team. To say Val isn't hard on the puck is crazy, I would have agreed with this statement two years ago but the past year and a half he has been a force in all three zones and extremely hard to strip off the puck.
He is worth anywhere between the $4 - 4.25 mil he WILL receive. Just ask any other team that would love to have a dependible guy like Val on their team, almost every GM in the league would love for him to become available to throw upwards of $5 mil easy his way. He is the type of player every coach loves to have on their team, the guy you know plays hard every shift and backchecks on every play. The points will come, I'm very confident in that, just like the entire Red Wing brass. Filppula WILL be resigned so accept it and move on. Just like all the Ericsson haters on here just one year ago you will eat your words. Count on it.
There is so much negativity on here, I can't help but laugh at times... We are now going into the second round of the Playoffs (thanks to Filppula's game winner) to play against the Blackhawks. It's sad that so many "fans" (and I use that word loosely) counted us out of even making the playoffs halfway through the season. Sad...