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#2684895 AA

Posted by krsmith17 on 16 August 2016 - 09:24 PM

I never really put any players in the same pool or made any comparison between them. I've said that I still think Zetterberg is a top 6 talent and shouldn't be dropped to the 3rd line. I've also said being moved to the wing, rather than playing center should keep his legs going longer into the season.

#2684873 Tom McCollum heads to LA for PTO w/Kings

Posted by krsmith17 on 16 August 2016 - 06:16 PM

The writing was on the wall with McCollum. He had some decent years in Grand Rapids, but there was never going to be an opportunity for him in Detroit. With Mrazek looking like he will be the guy for the foreseeable future, Coreau looking like he could become a solid NHL backup, the addition of Pasquale, as well as Paterson looking to battle for a spot in Grand Rapids, and the glut of other guys in the system... Glad to see McCollum get a shot elsewhere, and I hope they sign him to a contract.

#2684863 AA

Posted by krsmith17 on 16 August 2016 - 03:38 PM

I'd say the chance of Zetterberg's minutes being significantly reduced, is just as likely as Glendening's minutes being reduced, or Mantha making the team out of camp, which is to say... slim to none...

#2684785 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 13 August 2016 - 05:41 PM

"It's just the way the fourth line plays". This right here is my biggest issue. The 4th line shouldn't necessarily have to play that way, but the guys we have on our 4th line do. We could go with a 4th line of players sitting / sent down, Jurco - Athanasiou - Mantha, and actually generate some offense, but instead we'll have the "shut-down" line of Miller - Glendening - Ott...

#2684676 Patrick Roy steps down as Head Coach and VP of Hockey Operations

Posted by krsmith17 on 11 August 2016 - 04:03 PM

Sakic, overrated? Seriously? Why do fans that hate opposing teams have to hate every player on those teams? The Wings Avalanche rivalry is long over. Not a single player involved remains on either team. Why do people still hate them so much? I guess for the same reason they still hate the Penguins and Crosby... or should I say "Criesby".....

Burnaby Joe was a beast in his day and to say otherwise is flat out wrong...

#2684626 Red Wings All-Bust Roster

Posted by krsmith17 on 10 August 2016 - 11:00 AM

First of all, I never said I'm "writing off Saarijarvi". I was simply replying to GMR's post "name a current highly thought of prospect that will be on this list in 20 years"... Based on that, Saarijarvi would be my pick. I think Saarijarvi is much more likely to become a bust than Svechnikov, which was another player mentioned. If you think Saarijarvi is going to become a stud, good for you, but was there really any need in the insults?


I wasn't "wrong" about Smith, I've always said he will become a legit top 4, puck moving defenseman, which is exactly what he is. The jury is still out on Jurco and Sproul, but both are just 23 years old, and still likely to become impact NHL players. I still think Jurco will be a legit middle 6 skilled winger, and Sproul will be a legit top 4 defenseman, much like Smith. Whether that's with Detroit or another team is yet to be determined... As for Larkin, I did want to him to start in Grand Rapids, but what exactly was I "wrong" about? I knew he was going to be a stud. Do you actually think that ripping up the American League for a year would have stunted his development? Larkin is a special player, and if he started in Grand Rapids, it would have been no time before he got a call-up anyway...

#2684541 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 08 August 2016 - 11:09 AM

I disagree. We would still have a ton of defensively responsible forwards, at least one on every line... That lineup would be nothing like the Oilers...

#2684511 AA

Posted by krsmith17 on 07 August 2016 - 07:16 AM

I agree that Athanasiou will likely start in Grand Rapids, and I also agree that it's not the worst thing that could happen. However, he wouldn't be sent down just so the Griffins would have a number one center. When we lost Miele, Ben Street was brought in, and he is more than capable of filling the same role Miele did for the past couple years.

I would have loved to see Athanasiou start on the big club, had we not signed Miller, Ott and Vanek, but unfortunately, I don't see Athanasiou up with the mess of this current roster. One of two things need to happen, the very unlikely trade, or the inevitable injury. I don't see a trade happening, but an injury could occur as early as October (or as late as February). He will certainly be the first call up, and I see him playing somewhere around 60 games for the Wings this year.

Unfortunately, again unless there's a trade or we're struck hard with injuries, I don't see much of a chance for Mantha either. He's likely number 2 on our call up list, and I don't see him playing any more than 20 or so games.

Both these guys are waiver exempt though, so I'd much rather send either or even both down to Grand Rapids than risk losing either Ouellet or Sproul for nothing. Holland created this mess, so I just hope he can somehow fix it, and relieve this team of this massive log jam. We have way too many good players, not close to enough great players...

#2684234 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 30 July 2016 - 12:52 PM

I'm at the point where I don't have any confidence that Holland will pull off a big trade to bring in that much needed top pair defenseman. I don't buy that he's unable to, or we don't have the pieces other teams want, I just think he's unwilling to give up the assets to get it done. I think a package including Nyquist / Tatar, plus a prospect and / or pick(s) would be enough to get a top pair defenseman, he's just not willing to put together the necessary pieces to get such a deal done...

#2684218 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 29 July 2016 - 05:34 PM

1 is by far the best, and seems like the only choice...

4 is awful in my opinion...

1, 6, 2, 5, 7, 3, 4.

#2684192 DeKeyser re-signed to a 6 year deal

Posted by krsmith17 on 29 July 2016 - 10:04 AM

I agree that teams need offensive defensemen that can drive possession, but teams also need steady, reliable, two-way defensemen such as DeKeyser. This is not a home-run deal by any stretch, but I think it's a solid contract, one that absolutely needed to get hammered down. We certainly could not afford to lose DeKeyser, and although I thought he might take a bit of a hometown discount, I doubt we could have gotten a whole lot lower than what he signed.


Look around the league at some of the number 2 / 3 defensemen (which is what I believe DeKeyser is) and see what kind of contracts they're on...


Tobias Enstrom - $5.75M over 5 years.

Marc Staal - $5.7M over 6 years.

Jeff Petry - $5.5M over 6 years.

Dan Girardi - $5.5M over 6 years.

Brooks Orpik - $5.5M over 6 years.

Matt Carle - $5.5M over 6 years.

James Wisniewski - $5.5M over 6 years.

Jay Bouwmeester - $5.4M over 5 years.

Dennis Wideman - $5.25M over 5 years.

Zach Bogosian - $5.14M over 7 years.

Andy Green - $5M over 5 years

Andrew MacDonald - $5M over 6 years.

Alexander Edler - $5M over 6 years.

Paul Martin - $5M over 5 years.


Is there a single one of them you can say is definitively better than DeKeyser? Nope.


DeKeyser needs to be paired with a number one puck moving defenseman, and then we would finally see what he is really capable of.

No one is saying he's elite, and he's not being paid like he's elite. He's a solid number 2 / 3, and that's exactly how he's getting paid. Good contract, that has the potential to turn out to be a great contract...

#2684156 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 28 July 2016 - 07:31 PM

Agreed. I wasn't disputing your point, just clarifying a couple that have already signed.

#2684091 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 27 July 2016 - 06:43 PM

I wouldn't give up much for Shattenkirk on an expiring contract. I'd prefer to go after a defenseman with a little more term, or be sure he would be willing to re-sign in Detroit, like would be the case for a hometown kid like Trouba...

#2684071 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 27 July 2016 - 03:07 PM

PVD, if you value "safe", "defensive", and "shot blocking" then yes, Glendening is a solid choice. However, I personally think all of those qualities are overrated in today's game. I prefer players that are capable and willing to take risks to make things happen offensively. The best defense is a good offense. I'd also rather players that use their speed and hockey smarts to position themselves so they don't have to block a ton of shots. I don't think Glendening is completely useless (like Miller and Ott), because he does have decent wheels. I just don't believe in locking up 4th line players for another 5 years at nearly $2M per, especially a full calender year before it needed to be done...

#2684033 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 27 July 2016 - 10:41 AM

... and on the flip side, if we let Ericsson walk back a couple years ago and he became what Hjalmarsson is in Chicago, the same people would be complaining that Holland let a top 4 defenseman with great size walk for nothing... Hindsight is 20/20, and some people, no matter what, will find something to b**** about. We should have done this, we shouldn't have done that...

Regardless, I'm happy with these two contracts. Good job Holland.

Now if you could just grow some balls and make a trade, I'd be thrilled...