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#2652457 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by Son of a Wing on Yesterday, 02:37 PM

The hard salary cap and revenue sharing are crucial for the success of the league.


This isn't the MLB.  The NHL would have teams folding and moving every few years without them.


As much as I'm a fan of the Red Wings, I'm also a fan of the NHL and hockey in general.


I love the parity and the excitement it brings.  Almost every single game is a challenge.


But hey, if you wanna see teams outspend each other and dumb overspending GMs not get penalized then I guess a soft-cap or no cap system is for you.

Also, I didn't see this mentioned, but the cap is rumoured to drop as much as 4 million this next season.

#2652456 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by kliq on Yesterday, 02:18 PM


This whole situation is killing - coupled with other things - really is killing the excitement of hockey. Sometimes the cap goes up, sometimes down which makes planning for GMS and teams too difficult, just adopt the MLB cap and be done with the hard one.


According to TSN Jets will make a final pitch to Andrew Ladd, wonder if they lowball him? Pulkinnen and Jurco might do well somewhere else but the Wings do have too much players of the same ilk but honestly unless Pulkinnen puts on a lot!! of muscle and becomes reliable in his own end, I see him as a PP specialist but not a top 6 guy, I know people will hate for saying it but thats the truth.


It's funny back in the days my only thoughts were which starplayer we might get and now I'm hoping we won't do anything that's how the trade deadline has become.


I dont want the NHL anything close to MLB, talk about ruining a sport. I cant even explain to you you how frustrating it was as a Jays in the mid 2000's. For example, in 2005 the Jays payroll was 45 million, the Yankees 205 million, the Sox 121 million. Its just not a fair fight. Sure year to year underdog teams with young low paid players will breakout (ie. Marlins/Rays), but its not really long lasting.


Even on the flip side, if the Wings are spending millions and millions more then the rest of the teams in the league and start to dominate, is it really that impressive? I want to win on an even playing field, not because we have a giant advantage.

#2652455 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by Buppy on Yesterday, 01:45 PM

I disagree with you.  Pulkinnen is not an NHL caliber player, unfortunately.  He's too one-dimensional and telegraphs his moves way too much.

Yet he has more goals than either Richards or Helm. 


It's funny because a year ago both were "untouchable" to some people around here.

No they weren't. Everyone has prospects they'd rather not trade, but that doesn't mean untouchable. Usually it's because those people think we have better trade options and/or the expected return isn't worth it.

#2652426 The Petr Mrazek Appreciation Thread

Posted by kliq on Yesterday, 01:15 AM


Yep. No more bridge contracts after the ELCs expire anymore. It's straight to the big money, which sucks because young players can regress. Not saying Mrazek will, but that's what the bridge deals were for, in part. Mrazek will get a nice payday, Vezina or not. Howard def needs to be dumped in the offseason no matter what, like you said. Bring up someone from GR or sign a journeyman to back up Mrazek.


Wings haven't had a goalie in Vezina talks since Osgood in the mid 90's. Awesome to see Mrazek in there.


We literally had one last year http://www.thehockey...15-rinne-rules/



5. Jimmy Howard, Detroit Red Wings

Howard has had a few rough years of late, but this season, everything is working for the 30-year-old netminder.

Backstopping one of the most storied franchises in NHL history – and during a time some expected them to take a step back, no less – Howard is posting the league’s fifth best GAA, is eighth in wins, and has two shutouts. Now, if only the Red Wings could convert a few overtime and shootout games to victories, Howard could make a serious push at being the first Red Wings goaltender to win the Vezina since Terry Sawchuk in 1954-55, back when it was still given to the goaltender with the lowest GAA.

#2652298 The Petr Mrazek Appreciation Thread

Posted by RedWingsRox on 12 February 2016 - 06:53 PM

Way to represent the Wings!


Petr Mrazek has crashed Braden Holtby’s Vezina party



At one point this season, quite recently, the Vezina Trophy race was a sprint to a coronation: Braden Holtby, Washington Capitals goaltender and pupil of that Netminding Yoda Mitch Korn, had the trophy in the bag.
He had the NHL lead in wins. As he did for goals-against average. As he did for save percentage.
As for Feb. 12, he still holds onto one of those leads: Wins, with 35, four more than Corey Crawford of the Chicago Blackhawks. That’s 14 more wins than Petr Mrazek of the Detroit Red Wings – Holtby has started 44 games, Mrazek has 34 – but hey would you look at that: The Red Wings goalie leads the NHL in save percentage (.934) and GAA (1.94) heading into Friday night’s game hosting the Colorado Avalanche.*

#2652272 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by Jesusberg on 12 February 2016 - 04:45 PM

Most underrated player on this team... Darren Helm. I agree we shouldn't re-sign him to a massive contract, but if we can keep him for a reasonable price (I think we will) we definitely should. As for Sheahan, he is a really good third line center, that can play second line in a pinch. He is not a forth line center, it just shows how deep we are down the middle, that he is playing on the forth line...



Helm brings something special to the table, but only as a bottom sizer. With him being due for a raise, and is having so many bottom sixes, it's not a matter of Helm being underrated as much as a roster/cap decision.

Agree with both of these. If they can hang onto Helm for 2.5ish (and even that's pushing it for a guy I want to see on the 4th line), then OK. I don't think he'll settle for that number, though. He's 29 and probably looking to cash in (which is smart on his part). It's a tough situation. I would prefer to keep Helm over Miller, but don't agree with how Helm's been used and what he'll likely cost.

Honestly, even if they want to lean on the fourth line for more minutes, go for it. Just let some of the younger, skilled guys stick with each other on the third line, or blend them into the top-six. I think Sheahan-Helm-Glendening would be a fantastic fourth line heading into next season.

Holland can find the money - he's just got to be prepared to let go of a couple of guys (Richards and Quincey. I'd prefer to keep Q over Ericsson, but it's not likely) and find a new home for Kindl.

#2652264 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by amato on 12 February 2016 - 03:14 PM

His underratedness and probable raise are two different discussions.. I'm sure we can all agree to those to some extent. I think we can also all agree that if he re-signs in Detroit, it'll be under market value.. At least those things seem pretty obvious imo.

I for one would love for helm to take a "hometown discount" and stick with the wings as long as possible.. But I also wouldn't blame him if he wanted more money and went elsewhere. I'll miss him if he's gone, that's for sure.

#2652207 The Petr Mrazek Appreciation Thread

Posted by kliq on 12 February 2016 - 11:23 AM

I think our D in their own end is underrated on here. Way better than previous years. They're usually always there to clear the second chances


lol, what do you mean?

He has been nothing short of amazing. Especially when you consider how pathetic this team is on defense. Watching guys like Smith, Green, Kindl and Ericson turn it over game after game is so frustrating. I really wish Smith would get moved to forward.


Oh wait, there it is.

#2652205 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by Son of a Wing on 12 February 2016 - 11:20 AM

4th Period's "rumours" are as bad as Eklund.  Maybe worse.

#2652203 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by kliq on 12 February 2016 - 11:18 AM

Where do they get their info?


I dont think they get anything via "sources". I think they simply speculate based on their internal opinions.

#2652202 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by frankgrimes on 12 February 2016 - 11:17 AM

Where do they get their info?


I'll never understand why people are taking some questionable sources seriously. If it doesn't come from Dreger, Lebrun or the master himself McKenzie it's not worth arguing over. But nonetheless it's funny how many people are trying to become insiders when the deadline approaches.


As far as Trouba goes, other than Larkin,Mantha pick your player if he really is available - which I doubt - his limit is the sky and he will be well worth the pricetag of 6 million if that's what he is asking for. Dekeyser - Trouba that would be a great great pairing for at least the next decade because they are both soo young.


Not interested in Enstrom

#2652200 So Kenny Trades You...

Posted by kliq on 12 February 2016 - 11:12 AM

If I am traded by Holland, my "payback" would not be to hurt m friends. My "payback" would be to up my play and show him he made a mistake.

#2652191 2/12 GDT : Colorado Avalanche at Red Wings, 7:30 EST

Posted by HockeytownRules19 on 12 February 2016 - 10:36 AM

DeKeyser staking. Mrazek in the starter's net. Green skating like he's ready, paired with Smith.


Some unexpected good news... I didn't think Mike would be ready... We'll see after the skate if he's playing tonight

#2652158 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by sjr2012 on 12 February 2016 - 12:15 AM

i wouldnt mind taking a chance on jensen to see what he has to offer it would be nice to see what our prospects have to offer if you are not going to trade them for the love of sam call them up we know what we got in kindl and ericsson so sit them and give XO and jensen a go see if they can fix the holes

#2652154 The Petr Mrazek Appreciation Thread

Posted by kliq on 11 February 2016 - 10:41 PM


I know.  I'm just frustrated at how skewed today's stats are in favor of these giant pad wearers.  


Your not wrong, stats are definitely skewed with the decrease in scoring. I prefer to look at how good a player was in his era compared to his peers, but with that being said, goalies now a days are much better athletes then the goalies of the past.


Bottom line, Mrazek is the real deal and if he keeps at this pace could be one of our best ever. Though he is a long way away from that.