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#2533099 Which Players Agency would you choose and why ?

Posted by Spongewingredpants on Yesterday, 05:28 AM

on a related note:


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#2533276 Tatar Signs 3 Year Deal $2.75 mill AAV

Posted by DickieDunn on Today, 09:57 AM

I still see him topping out as a one dimensional scoring line winger putting up around 60 points a year instead of the next star player, but the contract is still pretty solid.

#2533260 Predictions for the DRW 2014-15 Season!

Posted by rick zombo on Today, 08:35 AM


Not from Grand Rapids they won't.


Also, how can you honestly blame our bad start at the beginning of last season on lame plugs without immediately acknowledging that those same "lame plugs" are mostly still on the team.  We have the same problem we did a year ago.


We haven't made it past the second round of the playoffs in half a decade.  You can't blame that all on Sammy, Cleary, and injuries.  And if you do, you're setting yourself up for disappointment. 


Cleary > Cleary, Bertuzzi, and Samuelsson.


It's not ideal, but this year's team should have less deadweight than last year's. So we actually have less of a problem really.

#2533250 Predictions for the DRW 2014-15 Season!

Posted by Z Winged Dangler on Today, 06:24 AM

The problem with placing all our hopes on a healthy team is that it ignores the fact that for the first part of last season we were totally healthy and we still weren't that good.  We were also totally healthy for the 4 post seasons before last year.  Same results though. 


Like everyone else, I'd obviously prefer we were healthy rather than not.  But a lot of people are going to be very disappointed when they realize that we can make all the excuses we want, but there are a lot of holes in our team that didn't get solved in the offseason, and won't be solved by Datsyuk staying healthy. 


We've got an undersized, perimeter, team that can't play in the crease.  We don't have a single top flight player in his prime.  We've got a defense that can't move the puck efficiently. We've got horrible special teams.  And we've got an offensive scheme that hasn't yielded quality results in 5 years. 


Obviously, I'd love to be wrong.  The best case scenario is that we get healthy and win a Cup.  But I'm not holding my breath.  Second best scenario?  Get healthy and struggle just as much as we did a year ago.  At least that way nobody can use the "injury" excuse anymore. 

We weren't that good to start the season cause our healthy players included plugs like Sammy and Cleary and a lame, regressed Kindl with Tatar in the press box and Nyquist in the minors.


Undersized perimeter crap will be solved with developing guys like Jurco and Mantha to go to the dirty areas and bury goals.

#2533246 Tatar Signs 3 Year Deal $2.75 mill AAV

Posted by number9 on Today, 12:44 AM

Not saying Tatar is a money guy, but he's been up and coming for years for the wings and has always been held back, this is a good show of faith. Hopefully he hangs around longer than happy face.

#2533229 Tatar Signs 3 Year Deal $2.75 mill AAV

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on Yesterday, 09:37 PM

Whether people love the money angle of the deal or not, at least we can say that the guy actually did something to earn his deal. I like it personally, especially considering we really haven't been spending to the cap the last few years. We didn't do as well as we perhaps could've by Tatar the last year or so, and giving him a deal like this makes up for it a bit without it truly being any sort of overpayment. 

That's not true. Last year we were so close to the cap that we had to do all kinds of financial acrobatics to make it work.


Great to sign Tatar! Lead the Griffins to the Calder Cup and won the trophy for playoff MVP. scores 19 goals in 73 games in his first full season with the wings. I think the money is fine when you think of all that 

#2533227 Tatar Signs 3 Year Deal $2.75 mill AAV

Posted by number9 on Yesterday, 09:32 PM

too much money. He best get 25-30 goals in each of his years...this is the reason the salary cap was put in place. There is no way a sub twenty goal scoring RFA should be anywhere near this amount. But it is Ken Holland. He hasn't changed anything in his approach. This means Diesel will get at least $4M.

Also I still hate the "diesel" nickname

#2533213 Tatar Signs 3 Year Deal $2.75 mill AAV

Posted by wings4thecup06 on Yesterday, 06:11 PM

I wouldn't go that far...the cap will go up again and we prolly won't re-sign Andersson. Smith and Jurco I don't see getting what Tatar just got. Nyquist will be the only one getting decent money. We will still have cap space left to low ball free agents and lose out on them.


Yea I don't see why they'd re-sign Andersson. If anything, he'd be put in a package first, although I doubt that'd net us very much in return. 

#2533215 Tatar Signs 3 Year Deal $2.75 mill AAV

Posted by DeGraa55 on Yesterday, 06:51 PM

Little higher then what I was thinking. But I agree it's a good deal for both sides.

#2533209 Tatar Signs 3 Year Deal $2.75 mill AAV

Posted by Son of a Wing on Yesterday, 05:55 PM

Slight over-payment for this year but great value overall.  Love the 3 year term with RFA status at the end.

#2533195 Wings stuff on clearance at Dick's

Posted by Matt on Yesterday, 03:57 PM

****'s is not a curse word filter on here is it?


Holy crap, it is.  Feels like I'm in the 6th grade.  



Lol, no doubt.  The last couple years, this has become one of the most overly PC and heavily censored websites I have experienced in my 15+ years of internet. 


Especially absurd when you consider this is a hockey website.





Relax, fellas. You're not in a police state.


A few years ago there was a rampant problem with overly gratuitous cursing on the forums (particularly in the GDTs, where scores of entire posts would be made up of nothing but f-bombs and such). The community was warned that if such behavior continued that a curse filter would be enabled. This curse filter is just a huge word blacklist that was loaded into the database -- it wasn't something that myself or one of the moderators simply added one by one, manually.


That said, the behavior continued, it grew tiresome to continually delete/edit posts that were going over the line -- and the curse filter was enabled. I hate the fact we have to have a curse filter here. It annoys me to no end. But if the community can't handle that maturely then it's here to stay.


"Dick" was an unfortunate victim of blacklist collateral damage. You should be happy to see your dicks have henceforth been freed.



#2533184 Tatar Signs 3 Year Deal $2.75 mill AAV

Posted by toby91_ca on Yesterday, 02:59 PM

The only problem I have with these types of deals is that the player will always earn more than they should.  Sign for a few years that you grow into, then you sign your next deal that overpays early again for you to grow into it, etc.  Perhaps they'll be a bargain by the end of the deal, but what about the years leading up to the end of the deal?  I'm using hypotheticals now, but if a player signs for 5 years that turns out to be a bargain in the last year or 2, it doesn't change the fact that he was overpaid for the majority of the contract. 


In Tatar's case, I don't think that is a big issue though as even if he is overpaid for the entire thing, a 3-year, $2.75M contract is not going to cause any issues.  It's the long-term, high dollar contracts that suck.

#2533148 Predictions for the DRW 2014-15 Season!

Posted by LeftWinger on Yesterday, 01:25 PM

What we should do is change the subject of the topic to "If the Wings stay relatively healthy all year, what are you predictions?"


Like I said, if the oft injured players all play 70+ games, it can be nothing but a better year.  If that indeed happens, then I can see a 4th or 5th place playoffs spot for sure, if not higher.  Jimmy has to be pushed to higher expectations though...he has to carry us.

#2533131 Tatar Signs 3 Year Deal $2.75 mill AAV

Posted by LeftWinger on Yesterday, 12:58 PM

$7M? Overpayment.... No more than $1.5M per please. Maybe $5M for the term.

#2533122 Predictions for the DRW 2014-15 Season!

Posted by marcaractac on Yesterday, 12:31 PM

1. Weiss will make a lot of people eat crow by having a 50+ point season

2. Hank will have a career year.

3. Howard will have a bounce back season.

4. The team makes the playoffs with a lot less stress than the past 2 seasons. 

5. A forward we'll hate to see go will be traded to bring in a dman that we need.

6. Many Wings fans will finally see that the team is going in the right direction.