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#2686587 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by joesuffP on Yesterday, 10:49 PM

Imagine if Trouba publicly stated he would only sign with Detroit and any other team he was traded to would be a 1 year deal. He'd handcuff the Jets and greatly benefit his soon to be new team.

Just daydreaming here I'm sure Trouba would never do this..... 🤔


#2686572 Kyle Quincey

Posted by kliq on Yesterday, 08:27 PM

Only 31 y/o for a stable defensive defenseman. It's a steal alright. 

 

100% agree. That is a steal by NJ. He may not be worth 4mil/year, but hes definitely worth more then 1mil/year. Its too bad we couldn't have dumped E and signed Quincey for that price, he would be a great 3rd pairing guy.




#2686482 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Buppy on Yesterday, 01:52 AM

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If the rumours are to be believed and Trouba wanted out for months why didn't Kenny try to offer sheet him? if the jets are too cheap to pay their best defender offer sheet him with 8x8 and boom..Danny D. - Trouba without giving up assets damn

You don't know how it works. You'd give up four! 1st round picks with that offer, for the right to hilariously overpay Trouba.


#2686481 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by kliq on Yesterday, 01:19 AM

well people can stop with low ball offers, McKenzie said the asking price is a top 4 LHD which from a wings pov relates to Danny D. plus solid forward.

which then would create the problem off whom to pair with Trouba. I think this has the potential to drag out for months.

If the rumours are to be believed and Trouba wanted out for months why didn't Kenny try to offer sheet him? if the jets are too cheap to pay their best defender offer sheet him with 8x8 and boom..Danny D. - Trouba without giving up assets damn

 

I do agree with you Frank that it will likely take DD to get Trouba, but with that being said, you even said it yourself, asking price and actual value are not the same thing. Of course Winnipeg is going to start this process asking for top value, we will see what happens. It is an interesting situation as being an RFA, Trouba does has more control then usual in this situation as nobody is going to want to trade for a player who may hold out. Trouba and his agent do have some power here.

 

8x8 for Trouba is just stupid. I am as high on Trouba as anyone, but the kid hasn't done anything yet. He's coming from a team where he played on the third pairing. All the potential in the world, but you don't pay 8x8 for potential. Coming from someone who always says not to put too much pressure on the kids, I dont see how you can justify 8x8 for a 22 year old, talk about pressure, geez.




#2686457 9/27 Exhibition GDT : Pittsburgh Penguins at Red Wings, 7:30 EST

Posted by Detroit # 1 Fan on 27 September 2016 - 08:28 PM

Good thing we have boat anchor Drew Miller and 100 year old Steve Ott playing on our 4th line instead of Callahan, you know the guy who's shown he can scrap and chip in offensively for much cheaper. Oh, and the MOST important thing in the history of Red Wings hockey, he can PK too.


If Callahan doesn't get a roster spot over Ott or Miller I'llf****** puke. 

 

Prepare to puke kip. We're gonna see Miller-Glendening-Ott get caved in shift after shift every game cuz they play hard and compete :w00t:




#2686450 9/27 Exhibition GDT : Pittsburgh Penguins at Red Wings, 7:30 EST

Posted by kipwinger on 27 September 2016 - 07:49 PM

 

Based on one exhibition game?

 

Been calling for it for a while.  He can get hit by pucks just as well as Miller or Ott.  The only difference is he might score once in a while. 




#2686418 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by kliq on 27 September 2016 - 06:13 PM

I guess what I'm saying is, no matter that they are hometown kids, you just cannot pass up on the opportunity to acquire one or both of these guys.  Holland should be calling ALL the lines in WPG and ANA, just so no other GM can get through!

 

We have the assets to get both these guys, cut ties Kenny and get this done! This is your future you are dealing with. DO IT! Outbid them ALL!!!

 

I feel like your expectations are impossible to meet. You specifically say "Outbid them ALL" then you say things like "No Larkin, No AA, No DD, No Mrazek etc." You cant have it both ways.

 

I hope Holland can get these guys with picks/our 2nd tier players, but based on everything I am reading, Winnipeg wants a top LH D-man, and from Detroit that would be DD.




#2686395 9/27 Exhibition GDT : Pittsburgh Penguins at Red Wings, 7:30 EST

Posted by Jacksoni on 27 September 2016 - 12:47 PM

I'll send you a link, I'm pretty sure it'll work but the quality may not be the best. You should also check out Reddit close to game time for a high-res feed.




#2686371 9/27 Exhibition GDT : Pittsburgh Penguins at Red Wings, 7:30 EST

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 27 September 2016 - 08:02 AM

Is it true?! Is hockey really back?! *fist pump*

Here's hoping for a great season and a deep run! LGW!


#2686370 9/27 Exhibition GDT : Pittsburgh Penguins at Red Wings, 7:30 EST

Posted by Hockeytown0001 on 27 September 2016 - 07:20 AM

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#2686355 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by kliq on 26 September 2016 - 07:08 PM

Trade value in the NHL is a tricky thing, one trade may effect the market, but it does not define it. If it did then the Tyler Seguin trade would have had a huge ripple effect. Just because Chiarelli and Bergevin made dumb trades (ie. Seguin/Hall and Subban trades) it doesn't mean that everyone else will.

 

A player is only as valuable as the team that is trading for him makes him out to be. If we were in June, I think the market for Trouba would have been sky high. So many teams with so much cap space, really anything could happen and likely Winnipeg would have been given a big offer, I can see why Winnipeg's fans are pretty pissed with the handling of this situation. We all saw it first hand with the horrible trades made by both Montreal and Edmonton. With that being said, what Trouba's value is now in September is not necessarily the same as what it was back in June. It could be even higher (doubt it), it could be lower, it all depends on what teams are willing to trade.

 

In addition, one other thing people are not taking into consideration here is the fact that Trouba is an unsigned RFA who is requesting a trade at a very young age, this is a turn off to a lot of GM's. Winnipeg can trade him wherever they want, but the team that trades for him is going to want some assurance that Trouba is going to sign for a rate they can afford. If Trouba and his camp don't give that to them, that is a problem.

 

My gut tell me that Trouba will not go to Detroit, because I think some team out there will offer a package better then what we can offer if we are not going to include Larkin, Mrazek, and DD. Though, I definitely think we have a shot as we are a team I believe Trouba would love to come to as we are in his home state, we have a lot of good young talent, and he would instantly be our #1D.

 

We will have to wait and see what happens.




#2686353 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by kipwinger on 26 September 2016 - 07:01 PM

Ugh.  I really hate to get into the trade for Trouba hype, but this just makes too much sense to me.  We need a young righty defenseman.  The Jets want an established left shooting defenseman, and the Ducks want(ed?) a left wing PP specialist?

 

To Detroit:

Trouba

 

To Winnipeg:

Fowler

 

To Anaheim:

Nyquist+




#2686352 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by DickieDunn on 26 September 2016 - 07:00 PM

Do you people even watch Trouba? He's got a great skill set but he's far from an established top pairing defenseman

Not many 22 year olds are. He has the potential though


#2686348 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Son of a Wing on 26 September 2016 - 05:14 PM

Is Edmonton offering RNH and Nurse?


Nope. lol and they've said time and time again they won't trade Nurse.

But hey if Frank can think of it, that's just as good right?


#2686340 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 26 September 2016 - 01:34 PM

Penalty killing ability is pretty tangible when you're in close games (which we will be often again this year). Ability to win faceoffs is an essential part of winning in todays game - Helm back at center will supply that. Speed does matter. Forechecking pressure matters. Ability to move from center to wing up and down the lineup is important for finding line combos whenever we need to change things up. And he does produce as a secondary scorer. He's overpayed, but this is not a player like Emmerton we're talking about here.

 

We're not paying him like a core player. I saw someone else say that and it looks like it's caught on. If we could get a core player for 3.8 we wouldn't be worrying about how to fit in Trouba's caphit as earlier on this page