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#2544301 future captains?

Posted by DannyD on Yesterday, 11:26 PM

Does anyone know who has the locker next to Z?


Considering Z probably has a good 4 years left in him I'm saying out next C will be chosen for the 2019-2020 season.


C: Nyquist

A: Dekeyser

A: Abby


Nyquist to me is so much like Z in the way he talks and plays the game. Z always looks like a proud dad when Nyquist scores. I feel like he is really being groomed to take over that spot.

I don't think Nastasiuk will get an A that early in his pro career. Figuring he spends two years in GR or so. Same for Larkin. He won't spend much if any time in GR, but I don't see him getting an A as soon as he joins the team.


If Abby is still around I could see him getting an A. He has improved, always stays out of trouble and like Dekeyser is a Michigan product. That last spot is wide open to me though. Could be anyone from Mantha to Smith to Abby to Glendening.  

#2544298 Lines Thread

Posted by kliq on Yesterday, 10:22 PM

As much as I like Helm, one thing I have always noticed about him is it seems like his legs are too fast for his hands. I cant even count the amount of times he gets a break, and then seems to lose the puck and/or falls down.

#2544294 Kindl on the block

Posted by kliq on Yesterday, 10:04 PM

Smith barely contributes to the offense at all, he doesn't score goals and he's not on the PP. How exactly is he an offensive defenseman??


Thats not that unusual for a defenseman though. Last year Smith had 5 goals in 70 games, in comparison PK Subban had 10 goals in 82 games, Keith Yandle had 8 goals in 82 games. The Weber's and Karlsson's of the world are very rare. At the end of the day most defenseman dont score alot of goals. If they cant contribute with assists, move the puck, and get shots through from the blue line, offensively I'm happy.

#2544232 10/23 GDT : Penguins 3 at Red Wings 4 (OT)

Posted by kipwinger on Yesterday, 01:21 PM

Babcock is a funny man :P


Babcock, on why he doesn't try Brendan Smith on power play: "I’m not getting into every detail why I play everyone and why I don’t. That’s the beauty of being the coach. You get to decide. You guys get to speculate why I don’t do things."



Sooo...no good reason then?

#2544221 10/23 GDT : Penguins 3 at Red Wings 4 (OT)

Posted by haroldsnepsts on Yesterday, 12:16 PM


I think Tatar looked terrible last night. Aside from turnovers he was pretty much invisible. That wasn't the case in the games before that but his and Helms goal drought are one big reason the Wings have so few goals for. Maybe I expect to much from Tatar, but he has to get better this season than he his now.


Who looked great last night however was Kindl. Aside from his neutral zone gaffe (which he impressively made up for with his defensive play afterwards) he made a good impression out there. Especially that long pass on Miller during the 2nd (?) was very impressive. More of that please.




Then hopefully the Wings will be able to trade him. 


He's looked decent but he's a $2.4 million defenseman playing under 15 minutes a night.  I'd much rather see XO in that spot.  

#2544225 Rating the Defense through 6 games

Posted by haroldsnepsts on Yesterday, 12:29 PM

I've said before he's not a good defenseman. I said it in the offseason and I said it last season. He's overrated because he's big.


It's not just because he's big.  Kindl and Lashoff are almost as big as Ericsson but don't exactly get a lot of love here.


Ericsson is a good shut down defenseman.  He'd probably be best suited for middle pairing minutes but given the current state of Detroit's defense it doesn't really shake out that way.  


Do you remember how the PK suffered last season when he was out?  He is big, I still don't think he's physical enough but he's the most physical defenseman on the team.  He has a great first pass, and he's become less prone to brain farts and is generally poised under pressure. 


He hasn't been as good so far this season but I have to wonder if the finger injury has set him back. He said himself it hindered his training, so he's probably not in as good of game shape and as strong.  Not to mention getting your puck handling back. 


Point being, of the defensive problems on this team, Ericsson is not high on the list.  They need to cut dead weight in Kindl, and keep looking for a legit offensive threat from the blue line, preferably a right hander.  Then there's the question of how long it will be before Quincey goes through one of his stretches where he forgets how to play hockey. 

#2544176 Lines Thread

Posted by Jesusberg on Yesterday, 09:35 AM

I don't want Stewart. He is massively overpaid in my opinion...


With everyone healthy (hopefully on Saturday against Philadelphia) we "should" have a decent lineup...


Nyquist - Zetterberg - Franzen

Tatar - Dastyuk - Jurco

Helm - Weiss - Sheahan

Miller - Glendening - Abdelkader

Andersson / Cleary


Nestrasil is sent down and clears


Kronwall - Ericsson

DeKeyser - Smith

Quincey - Kindl (Ouellet)


If I know Mike Babcock, (I don't, but we can pretend for right now) he'll wind up going with something like this:


Weiss, Cleary

Also, can writing "Kindl (Ouellet)" become a thing around here? Just leave XO's name in parentheses every time Kindl is mentioned  :lol:

#2544153 10/23 GDT : Penguins 3 at Red Wings 4 (OT)

Posted by kliq on Yesterday, 01:58 AM

That was an awesome game!

I was there live and with about 5min left people started leaving in droves. Its funny, I whispered to my cousin "I dont know why people leave with time left in a 3-1 game, anything can happen" and then we see one of the best finishes in years. Such a good game!

#2544119 10/23 GDT : Penguins 3 at Red Wings 4 (OT)

Posted by Nightfall on 23 October 2014 - 11:03 PM

And the team is having a great start despite playing some tough teams this month. Are we not allowed to be excited?

Oh yeah, you're one of those who have been predicting doom and gloom. Sorry your predictions have been completely wrong thus far. But not really.


Just based on the quality of threads in the offseason, this team was pretty much given up and left for dead.  With every loss, these naysayers get stronger, with every win, they get weaker.  The "Tank it!" thread is all you need to read in order to get an idea of just how bad it got.


The Wings have played solid considering their first 10 games were considered to be the "Month of Death".  They are to be commended for sure.  Howard has turned his game around.  The kids are fun to watch.  Tonight was a real gut check victory and the team is going to be stronger because of it.

#2544108 10/23 GDT : Penguins 3 at Red Wings 4 (OT)

Posted by Hockeytown0001 on 23 October 2014 - 10:35 PM


#2544103 10/23 GDT : Penguins 3 at Red Wings 4 (OT)

Posted by VM1138 on 23 October 2014 - 10:29 PM

It may just be October but this was one of the harder schedules for us all year. We played mostly all top tier teams and are hanging at the top. Definitely a good sign but obviously no one is planning the parade yet.

#2544096 10/23 GDT : Penguins 3 at Red Wings 4 (OT)

Posted by marcaractac on 23 October 2014 - 10:18 PM

It's October.....

And the team is having a great start despite playing some tough teams this month. Are we not allowed to be excited?

Oh yeah, you're one of those who have been predicting doom and gloom. Sorry your predictions have been completely wrong thus far. But not really.

#2543934 Rating the Defense through 6 games

Posted by martinezsvsu on 23 October 2014 - 08:48 PM

ericsson has played 6-7 games this season and now hes not a good defenseman. lol

#2543576 Myers close to become a wing?

Posted by DickieDunn on 23 October 2014 - 06:46 PM

If he didn't have that contract I'd be more interested. I don't care if he has a bunch of points, I don't see him that good in his own end, and I don't like d who are weak defensively. I also don't like that he's missed so much time the last 3 years. He's just too much of a gamble to trade a lot for him with all the young D the Wings have already.

#2543567 Myers close to become a wing?

Posted by Jesusberg on 23 October 2014 - 06:38 PM

Regarding the center prospects, yea its a problem. But right now we have NHL centermen. We don't have a single right shooting offensive defenceman, a fact that Babcock has bemoaned for years. We do have an overabundance of dman prospects that look like they will for sure be NHL players someday, but not right now. We will have to trade at least one of them in the next two years or so because there simply isn't enough roster space for all of them. Why don't we trade our highly promising center prospect to address an urgent need now, and then use our highly promising defenceman prospects to address a POTENTIAL need later?


From my perspective, I don't see Myers putting Detroit over the top in the next two years - maybe that's just me. Around that time, Sproul and Jensen should be on this team. I'm not sure the ceiling between Sproul and Myers is that far apart.

I agree that this team is going to have too many NHL caliber defenders (hopefully), and I think one or more should be packaged, but with a winger - not a center. Again, in terms of relative value, I feel as if Larkin is worth more to this team. I don't think you move two of Ouellet, Sproul, Backman, Marchenko and/or Jensen and get someone like Larkin back.

IMO, it would be poor asset management if Holland moved Larkin today, hoping that he can move one or more of those guys down the road for another center. Perhaps if this team was in a better position to win a cup, and Myers was a for-sure impact defender, I'd make the move. At this point, I think Larkin's perceived value to this team is greater than Myers' immediate value. Just my take on it.