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Posted by dirtydangles on Yesterday, 08:04 PM

i seriously dont even want myers. and buffalo is throwing out names like mantha and larkin, F off.

lol at callahan though

Yeah Myers hasn't put it together yet due to his poor development - might never. We are actually developing our kids and they want us to do the dirty work for them. Myers would be a beast by now if Detroit had drafted and developed him - such a shame. Same could be said for Adam Larsson. 




#2543427 Franzen to 7-day IR

Posted by derblaueClaus on Yesterday, 03:35 PM

People seem to think that by adding talent to the top, everyone just bumps down the depth chart and their role changes.

 

Nope. This isn't a video game.  Glendening, Andersson and Miller are doing a great job in their checking/shutdown role through the first few games.  

 

So much so that they've earned more playing time.  They've had some of the toughest matchups and have shut down the opposition from scoring. 

 

Limiting goals is just as important as scoring them.  Look to the top-9 guys if you have issues with the amount of goals being scored.

Can't cite this often enough.

 

Not only is Miller good at was he's supposed to be doing he is also very cheap capwise which gives the team the possibility to sign better top-6/9 guys.




#2543421 Franzen to 7-day IR

Posted by Son of a Wing on Yesterday, 03:15 PM

People seem to think that by adding talent to the top, everyone just bumps down the depth chart and their role changes.

 

Nope. This isn't a video game.  Glendening, Andersson and Miller are doing a great job in their checking/shutdown role through the first few games.  

 

So much so that they've earned more playing time.  They've had some of the toughest matchups and have shut down the opposition from scoring. 

 

Limiting goals is just as important as scoring them.  Look to the top-9 guys if you have issues with the amount of goals being scored.




#2543403 Franzen to 7-day IR

Posted by Son of a Wing on Yesterday, 01:41 PM

Looking forward to Franzen coming back.  It'll help our offense.

 

Don't really understand a lot of the thoughts in this thread...

 

PK/GA is near top of the league and PP/GF is near bottom = trade/waive/sit the 4th line penalty killers!

 

Yeah ok....




#2543405 Myers close to become a wing?

Posted by DickieDunn on Yesterday, 01:52 PM

I don't want to move Larkin, certainly not for Myers. And most of the Wings d are offensive minded, the transition is off.


#2543379 Weiss

Posted by T.Low on Yesterday, 10:13 AM

Weiss isn't our savior





He was signed to be a key piece, of that there is no argument.

Filppula wanted out and I think TB will regret that deal. He's never had 2 back to back healthy productive seasons.




Struggling so far. 5 pts in 7 games, OT winner last night.


#2543372 Weiss

Posted by kipwinger on Yesterday, 09:36 AM

 

Maybe because the coaching stuff expected more from him (including pre-season ?). ) It doesn't matter how much money a player is making if he doesn't perform Babcock won't play the guy, simple.

 

Is that what's going on? 

 

Because Babcock and Holland's own comments suggest that he's not playing because they want to bring him along slowly, but that they've impressed by his attitude and hard work. 

 

This seems like another installment of "Frank speculates on something but plays it off like fact". 




#2543340 Buffalo to retire Hasek's number

Posted by kliq on Yesterday, 12:58 AM

 

I read hfboards a lot (the history section), and he's ranked number 1 by many posters there.  I consider many of them to be experts based on their hockey knowledge.  I wish I had some of their hockey knowledge.  

 

For the record, I do agree he is the best of all time. His peak was unmatched by any other goaltender ever. He literally dominated. We are on the same page, the only difference is the lists you read rank him #1, the lists I have read have not.

 

I bought a book "Best of the Best" by Scott Morrison where it ranks the best players ever at every position in the modern and original 6 era's, and it ranks him #3 in the modern era (behind Brodeur and Roy). Like I said though, I disagree.


EDIT I also think Osgood deserves more credit than most give him

 

One of the most telling quotes I heard about Chris Osgood is the following (It may not be word for word):

 

"If I showed any hockey expert the statistics of Chris Osgood, they would say the guy is a sure firer Hall Of Famer, then when I show them that the player is Chris Osgood, they change their tune". This is the definition of underrated. Not basing an assessment on results, but rather opinion/bias/preconceived notion.




#2543316 Buffalo to retire Hasek's number

Posted by number9 on 21 October 2014 - 10:37 PM

People give ozzy far too much credit around here. He wasn't very good at all when he left Detroit.

Hasek on the other hand was awesome and as pointed out was still decent when he came to Detroit.


Agreed to an extent. It just irks me how ppl hated on having a Hasek/Osgood tandem. Half the leagues other teams would pray for a tandem like that back in the day. Evan at their age. Wings fans were always the most critical.


#2543360 Weiss

Posted by kipwinger on Yesterday, 08:42 AM

Filppula wanted out and I think TB will regret that deal. He's never had 2 back to back healthy productive seasons.

 

What's the over/under on "healthy, productive, season"?  Because I'll take your bet. 




#2543174 Babcock " I dont think it will be my final year here"

Posted by number9 on 21 October 2014 - 08:52 PM

Nope I've read over 3 as 3.5 could be more could be less who knows. Also keep in mind is just the media speculating, maybe they are closer or further apart.

 

Uh huh, and I've read 2.5. But just under 3 is a low ball right?




#2543081 Babcock " I dont think it will be my final year here"

Posted by number9 on 21 October 2014 - 08:28 PM

Well half a million is a lot of money so we will see

 

Not sure where you got that number from. Article said just under 3, and Babs asked for 3.

 

EDIT: You want the team to throw even more than what Babcock is asking for at him, but then find a half a million difference to be a lot? I don't get it.




#2542979 Babcock " I dont think it will be my final year here"

Posted by number9 on 21 October 2014 - 07:50 PM

See that's the difference I don't care about that stuff it's not my money but if I were that rich I would pay it. I mean how often is the best coach in a sport willing to stick with a rebuilding / retooling team? Something that hardly happens

 

They're not far off on financials or term at all. What makes you think they won't pay it? They're probably going to meet somewhere in the middle later this season. If the article said they were off by multiple terms and a lot of money I'd be preaching what you're saying... but they're not lol.




#2542961 Babcock " I dont think it will be my final year here"

Posted by number9 on 21 October 2014 - 07:40 PM

It's simple for me ; This is hockey town, no cap on stuff, front office, coaches and I'd like to see the Wings setting a trend in coaches salaries plus we haven't flexed our financial muscle enough for my liking.

 

So you think it's smart to run a business by - not just making your employee the highest paid of that type of employee -  throwing uneeded extra money at him bc "we're hockey town, look how much bigger our muscles are?" Not only is that economically backwards, but him signing that contract would literally give us the biggest "financal muscles" in terms of coaches lol.

 

I want my team to spend all it can to be the best it can be, but not overpay for no reason lol.

 

Can we agree that offer was no where near a lowball yet?




#2542955 Babcock " I dont think it will be my final year here"

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on 21 October 2014 - 07:36 PM

I think they should throw money on the bench before every game, and into the stands while Chris ilitch flexes in a muscle shirt.

Just give him five at five.
Get it done.
He's doing more on the bench than Weiss is.
(Ba dum tsss)
Yes, give him more than he's asking for, and ilitch would be at center ice, to clear up any confusion on location.