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#2679304 Detroit trades Datsyuk to Arizona

Posted by Euro_Twins on Today, 12:03 AM

 
Surely Holland called Chayka ahead of the draft day trying to unload Datsyuk's contract. But on the draftday Chayka confirmed that it was him proposing this trade to Holland as he want Chychrun who was still available and who they even considered to pick at #7. Other teams above us may not have been willing to trade down so he approached Holland with this deal. Chayka seemed like the obvious choice for us and from what I heard we wanted him. But granted, I don't know it and there were rumours heading in both ways. It doesn't really matter in the end. Chayka obviously wanted the guy and he would have get picked soon...if not by us soon after.


If we signed stamkos on July 1 does Holland get any credit or no? Just seems like you're really trying to shovel crap down everyone's throat to prove your point


#2679303 The Holiday tradition: 2016 Draft thoughts.....

Posted by amato on Today, 12:03 AM

I thought I heard that at the mid point last year, McKenzie & friends NBC rankings or whatever had Chowlowski ranked in the 50s or so and he ended up at 25ish on the final rankings.. That progress is at least encouraging. Hopefully he continues to develop at a good rate. It'll be interesting to follow him vs Chychrun's development.


#2679301 Detroit trades Datsyuk to Arizona

Posted by amato on Yesterday, 11:57 PM

I vote good job holland because (depending on their draft board) just the 16th for the 20th and 53rd sounds like a good trade by itself. The fact that we opened up 7.5 mill in cap space along with it is excellent.


#2679299 Detroit trades Datsyuk to Arizona

Posted by Euro_Twins on Yesterday, 11:54 PM

First, how the hell do you know who initiated trade talks? For all you know, Holland could have approached Chayka with the proposal, taking complete advantage of the 27 year old GM... Secondly, how the hell do you know Holland had any intention in taking Chychrun? I would agree that he seemed like the logical choice, but for all we know, there was something about the kid that our scouts didn't like, and we weren't going to take him regardless of there being a trade or not...


Impossible. Holland had no hand in the trade. He just said yes. Holland got lucky....


#2679294 Detroit trades Datsyuk to Arizona

Posted by Euro_Twins on Yesterday, 11:47 PM

Give Kenny credit when it's due. He's been taking a lot of heat around here lately. Nice to see him getting some praise for a change. Hopefully it's a good sign of things to come


#2679285 Detroit trades Datsyuk to Arizona

Posted by kliq on Yesterday, 11:24 PM

You don't understand anything. You were compairing Bickell's deal with that one here which tells everything. You're just a clown. If you don't know what you're talking about you might just for once don't touch your keyboard. This deal happened because Chayka wanted the player we were about to pick. There's no need to praise Holland for this deal or to even compare him with Bowman. Only a troll like you could come up with something like that.

 

This is so typical lol, something goes wrong Holland is vilified, something goes right it has nothing to do with him.




#2679277 Detroit trades Datsyuk to Arizona

Posted by nyqvististhefuture on Yesterday, 10:53 PM

Real money vs no money. Even if he were on LTIR for Arizona they would have to pay him 1.1 million. With Pavs contract they don't pay any real money.


Which is why I never had any doubt that in the end we wouldn't have to give up a top pick or a top prospect like mantha ... Those teams are cheapskates and barely surviving and would do anything to save actual money

Great move by the wings tonight and got themselves and extra 2nd rounder tomorrow ... Now let's find a few gems tomorrow and hope we find an asset or 2 July 1st

It's exactly the type of deal we said would happen while everyone told us how dumb we were to think any team would "do us a favor." Way to go, Kenny.


Ha ya it's unbelievable that we didnt have to give away top prospects to bail out a team that didnt want to spend money


#2679243 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on Yesterday, 09:30 PM

@tkulfan: Holland said he'll focus on replacing Datsyuk in free agency....what does he want to do with this newly created cap space? "Spend it"

We shall see...

@Buccigross:Steve Yzerman basically told @KathrynTappen: "we made our best offer to Stamkos. Take it or leave it."


#2679269 Detroit trades Datsyuk to Arizona

Posted by Detroit # 1 Fan on Yesterday, 10:23 PM

More on Vitale:

 

Coyotes GM John Chayka said now former Coyotes/Penguins C Joe Vitale is not expected to play in 2016-17 due to post-concussion syndrome.




#2679245 Detroit trades Datsyuk to Arizona

Posted by VM1138 on Yesterday, 09:35 PM

It's exactly the type of deal we said would happen while everyone told us how dumb we were to think any team would "do us a favor." Way to go, Kenny.


#2679241 Detroit trades Datsyuk to Arizona

Posted by Detroit # 1 Fan on Yesterday, 09:28 PM

From Nick Cotsonika:

 

Vitale is injured. If the Red Wings put him on LTIR, they save his cap charge and save all $7.5M of Datsyuk's cap charge.




#2679215 Detroit trades Datsyuk to Arizona

Posted by Hockeytown0001 on Yesterday, 09:04 PM

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#2679216 Detroit trades Datsyuk to Arizona

Posted by kickazz on Yesterday, 09:05 PM

Just to put things into perspective here:

 

Stan Bowman gave up Teuvo Teravainen to move Bryan Bickell's contract. Ken Holland went from 16th pick to 20th pick in the draft and on top of that got a 2nd round pick to make up for the lost 3rd round pick.

 

And supposedly Ken Holland sucks and Stan Bowman is god because his father was  god. 




#2679206 Detroit trades Datsyuk to Arizona

Posted by Detroit # 1 Fan on Yesterday, 08:59 PM

 

Vitale is not gonna be in our roster. It changes nothing. Vitale is useless. Miller will be back...or at least I hope so.

 

Miller is just as useless, if were burying Vitale fine, but Miller needs to go. 




#2678909 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Detroit # 1 Fan on Yesterday, 05:26 PM

Man, I SO badly want Howard to go to Calgary. Please Steve, keep your asking price sky high on Bishop.