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#2685112 Datsyuk Announcement to Officially Leave NHL

Posted by kliq on Yesterday, 05:53 PM

Vanek isn't his replacement though, Nielsen is. Vanek is Franzen's replacement. 

 

Agreed, not to mention its apples and oranges. Datsyuk for 40 games at a 6.5mil caphit as out 1C cannot be compared to Vanek as our 2W? at a 2.6 mil caphit playing 82 games. We are literally talking different positions, likely different lines, different caphit, and likely a different amount of games played.

 

Like kickazz said, comparing Nielson to Datsyuk who has a similar caphit is a much better comparison.




#2685111 Datsyuk Announcement to Officially Leave NHL

Posted by Echolalia on Yesterday, 05:34 PM

And i would take Nielson over Datsyuk at this point.


#2685110 Datsyuk Announcement to Officially Leave NHL

Posted by kickazz on Yesterday, 05:04 PM

I'd still take Datsyuk for 40 games over Vanek for the next 5 seasons

Vanek isn't his replacement though, Nielsen is. Vanek is Franzen's replacement. 




#2685109 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by kliq on Yesterday, 04:58 PM

If you are saying that Q is a good player than don't use Franson as another exemple. It doesn't mean that he'should a top 4 defensemen being paid +$4M defensemen as he was massively overpaid.

This has nothing to do with what I said. My point was that a player not signing right away is often a result of said player wanting more then he is worth. I did not say Franson was better, the same, or worse then Qunicey as it is irrelevant. I would use Franson in my example again if I had to as IMO it is a similar situation. (I admit, this is speculation)

 

I believe Quincey had a price tag that was higher then what teams were willing to pay. I'm sure if Quincey was willing to take a short term deal at a reasonable cap hit, he would have been signed extremely quick. Quincey would be a great 3rd pairing guy on a good team. I never said he was a top 4 guy.


Anaheim needs a leftwinger, there's no reason why a trade centering around Nyquist in exchange for Fowler cannot be done. Except that Holland thinks Nyquist is the future of his franchise or something...thanks kenny...make the deal already.

 

This is not how trades work. You cannot tell Anaheim, we are giving you Nyquist for Fowler end of story. They may not want Nyquist, they may want AA, Mantha or Larkin......In that 5 questions thing, Kenny basically said that he feels goose has hit his ceiling, if that's the case I cant see why he would think that Nyquist "is the future of the franchise". You're just creating a narrative because you are frustrated with the realities of today's market.
 




#2685098 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by kliq on Yesterday, 10:33 AM

and then you realize how our def is bad when one of the better def that we had last year is still unsigned FA...

 

This statement exaggerates what is going on right now. A UFA going unsigned does not nessesarily mean he is not good and usually means 1 of 3 things:

 

1) The player is not good (but this is applicable to players who become UFA's after barely playing (ie. Weiss))

2) The value that the player thinks he has vs the value he actually has are not on the same page (most common reason)

3) Due to a variety of factors, teams are waiting to sign those last few UFA's once they get closer to training camp due to cap concerns/injury concerns etc.

 

In the case of Qunicey, I would have to guess that coming off a 4 million contract, he is looking for something in a similar range and he's just not getting it. Similar to what happened to Cody Franson last year. Its not because he isnt good enough to be a top 6 D-man on any team in the NHL. Or maybe he has a ton of teams just telling him to wait a little bit once they sort out their cap issues.




#2685093 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by joesuffP on Yesterday, 08:56 AM

I think the slow footed big defensive shut down defenders are a dieing breed in this league


#2685087 Datsyuk Announcement to Officially Leave NHL

Posted by amato on Yesterday, 05:10 AM

Kovy and Datsyuk on the same line against sub-NHL level talent should almost be illegal. Thanks for the highlights!


#2685068 Datsyuk Announcement to Officially Leave NHL

Posted by GoalieManPat on 25 August 2016 - 05:43 PM

Datsyuk is going to light it up this season. 

 

Especially if every goalie just kinda falls over before he shoots like this guy did




#2685039 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 24 August 2016 - 09:07 PM

Part of me is hoping we have a Dman injured so we can keep XO, Sproul, and Jensen at least at the beginning of the year.

 

Sucks for Jurco. He was already starting behind the eight ball and now the path looks harder for him.




#2685026 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Wheelchairsuperhero on 24 August 2016 - 03:16 PM



Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive


#RedWings Tomas Jurco had "minor" back surgery last week, hurting himself working out. Out 4-6 weeks. Might not be ready for start of season
3:19 PM - 24 Aug 2016

 



Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive


#RedWings expect Niklas Kronwall to be ready for start of camp. Knee feels better, not 100 percent, so he withdrew f. World Cup, per Holland
3:20 PM - 24 Aug 2016

 



Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive


#RedWings D prospect Vili Saarijarvi will have wrist surgery, sidelining him for three months, Ken Holland said. Hurt in Plymouth tourney.
3:26 PM - 24 Aug 2016

 


So much for a roster crunch lol


Pretty bummed for Saarijarvi and Jurco. Jurco particularly really can't seem to catch a break.


#2685008 Datsyuk Announcement to Officially Leave NHL

Posted by NerveDamage on 24 August 2016 - 10:17 AM

Building the hype ...Russian style




#2684962 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Dominator2005 on 21 August 2016 - 11:00 AM

No way that package brings Trouba and no way Trouba signs 8/4M$.

Do you really think that KH has what it takes to trade 7 players???
Do you really think that Fowler is that much of upgrade over Smith?


#2684939 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Dabura on 19 August 2016 - 05:42 AM

Well according to that "source" CBJ are the ones "VERY" interested in Nyquist so if they're desperate. 

 

They would probably want to move, say, David Savard or Jack Johnson. At 23 years old, Boone Jenner is coming off a 49-point season (30 goals, 19 assists). He's going to be a very good 2C, possibly even a 1C. Zach Werenski projects as a top-pairing defenseman.

 

Another thing to consider: the Jackets are -- or, at least, were (I haven't really read up on them in a while) -- facing a cap crunch. Nyquist's cap hit is reasonable, but if the Jackets are taking him on, then they're probably unloading some money.




#2684920 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Dabura on 18 August 2016 - 09:56 AM

Nyqvist and Smith and a 4th for Werenski and Jenner.

 

Nyquist + Smith + 4th would get you neither Werenski nor Jenner, never mind BOTH.




#2684913 AA

Posted by kickazz on 17 August 2016 - 05:03 PM

Alrighty.. This thread is about AA but since we are talking about Zetterberg, I watched him skate yesterday in Stockholm, just for a few minutes. It was at the end of his workout. He looked spry and was going full stride, looking good doing it.

I have no info or idea of his back issues but he has clearly been taking care of himself in the off-season. Conditioning is there, no doubt.

He was fine last year in the beginning too, he hit a wall around January though. It's about that longevity. The less he plays the longer he will last with those legs you saw yesterday.