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#2684218 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on Yesterday, 05:34 PM

1 is by far the best, and seems like the only choice...

4 is awful in my opinion...

1, 6, 2, 5, 7, 3, 4.


#2684192 DeKeyser re-signed to a 6 year deal

Posted by krsmith17 on Yesterday, 10:04 AM

I agree that teams need offensive defensemen that can drive possession, but teams also need steady, reliable, two-way defensemen such as DeKeyser. This is not a home-run deal by any stretch, but I think it's a solid contract, one that absolutely needed to get hammered down. We certainly could not afford to lose DeKeyser, and although I thought he might take a bit of a hometown discount, I doubt we could have gotten a whole lot lower than what he signed.

 

Look around the league at some of the number 2 / 3 defensemen (which is what I believe DeKeyser is) and see what kind of contracts they're on...

 

Tobias Enstrom - $5.75M over 5 years.

Marc Staal - $5.7M over 6 years.

Jeff Petry - $5.5M over 6 years.

Dan Girardi - $5.5M over 6 years.

Brooks Orpik - $5.5M over 6 years.

Matt Carle - $5.5M over 6 years.

James Wisniewski - $5.5M over 6 years.

Jay Bouwmeester - $5.4M over 5 years.

Dennis Wideman - $5.25M over 5 years.

Zach Bogosian - $5.14M over 7 years.

Andy Green - $5M over 5 years

Andrew MacDonald - $5M over 6 years.

Alexander Edler - $5M over 6 years.

Paul Martin - $5M over 5 years.

 

Is there a single one of them you can say is definitively better than DeKeyser? Nope.

 

DeKeyser needs to be paired with a number one puck moving defenseman, and then we would finally see what he is really capable of.

No one is saying he's elite, and he's not being paid like he's elite. He's a solid number 2 / 3, and that's exactly how he's getting paid. Good contract, that has the potential to turn out to be a great contract...




#2684156 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 28 July 2016 - 07:31 PM

Agreed. I wasn't disputing your point, just clarifying a couple that have already signed.


#2684091 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 27 July 2016 - 06:43 PM

I wouldn't give up much for Shattenkirk on an expiring contract. I'd prefer to go after a defenseman with a little more term, or be sure he would be willing to re-sign in Detroit, like would be the case for a hometown kid like Trouba...


#2684071 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 27 July 2016 - 03:07 PM

PVD, if you value "safe", "defensive", and "shot blocking" then yes, Glendening is a solid choice. However, I personally think all of those qualities are overrated in today's game. I prefer players that are capable and willing to take risks to make things happen offensively. The best defense is a good offense. I'd also rather players that use their speed and hockey smarts to position themselves so they don't have to block a ton of shots. I don't think Glendening is completely useless (like Miller and Ott), because he does have decent wheels. I just don't believe in locking up 4th line players for another 5 years at nearly $2M per, especially a full calender year before it needed to be done...


#2684033 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 27 July 2016 - 10:41 AM

... and on the flip side, if we let Ericsson walk back a couple years ago and he became what Hjalmarsson is in Chicago, the same people would be complaining that Holland let a top 4 defenseman with great size walk for nothing... Hindsight is 20/20, and some people, no matter what, will find something to b**** about. We should have done this, we shouldn't have done that...

Regardless, I'm happy with these two contracts. Good job Holland.

Now if you could just grow some balls and make a trade, I'd be thrilled...


#2683956 DeKeyser re-signed to a 6 year deal

Posted by krsmith17 on 26 July 2016 - 11:39 AM

Sproul >>> Wisniewski




#2683919 DeKeyser re-signed to a 6 year deal

Posted by krsmith17 on 26 July 2016 - 09:00 AM

A little higher than I would have liked, but overall I think it's a solid deal.




#2683819 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 25 July 2016 - 11:49 AM

Ohhhh, THAT'S your point... That wasn't clear the last 500 posts you've made regarding Helm since he was signed 25 days ago...

 

Holland proved with this signing that Helm IS part of this teams future, and no, none of the kids you're talking about bring the same element Helm does, maybe with the exception of Athanasiou. Want to b**** about contracts and players taking up roster spots that aren't part of the future? How about Miller, Ott and Vanek... Helm is here for the long haul and you might as well get used to it... Or maybe we (myself in particular) should just get used to your constant b****ing, because hey, that's what you do... Same with Franzen, same with Nyquist, same with Ericsson, same with Howard, etc, etc, etc...




#2683810 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 25 July 2016 - 10:55 AM

Yeah, it sucks we're going to lose these guys because of the Helm signing...

 

Stop being so f***ing over dramatic... Both DeKeyser and Mrazek will be signed, likely before their arbitration hearings, and Helm's contract will not effect it in any way, shape, or form...




#2683673 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 22 July 2016 - 07:44 PM

I wouldn't say Helm is definitively the best 3rd line center in the league, but I do think he's one of the best (if not the best). The stats are there to prove it. What evidence do you want? I'm not going to compare every 3rd line center in the league, but if you wanted to take the time to do so, I guarantee Helm would stack up quite well with the competition.

Hahaha give it a f***ing rest Lefty. You of all people shouldn't be gloating about being "right". You've got to be one of the worst for trying to pass your personally bias on a player as fact. Once you start to hate on a player (for whatever reason), there's no amount of reasoning or facts that will change your mind. You weren't right on Franzen, or anyone else. In fact, every one of those players are better than you'll ever give them credit for and Helm is no different...


#2683658 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 22 July 2016 - 05:37 PM

You're flat out wrong on Helm. He is not a 4th liner, he is a very good 3rd line center / winger. He may be slightly overpaid, but only by around $500K, and that's certainly not worth all the b****ing you're doing about it...

As of right now he is better in that role than all the players you mentioned, maybe with the exception of Athanasiou. Stop trying to compare Helm with Miller and Ott. They're not even close to being similar in any way, other than the team they play for and the fact that they can kill penalties. But even then there's the difference that Helm is a much better penalty killer...


#2683651 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 22 July 2016 - 04:46 PM

Helm is absolutely valuable to this team... but Miller, Ott... not at all.


#2683625 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 22 July 2016 - 11:20 AM

If Jurco were to get traded for peanuts, everyone would be livid for years not weeks... If he were playing with any other organization he would be a very good middle 6 winger right now. Unfortunately, he has been severely mismanaged, and his value is at an all time low, so we literally won't know what we have / had until he's gone... Jurco is no all-star, but he's no Ville Leino type scrub either. It would be a mistake to trade him away for nothing...




#2683597 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 21 July 2016 - 05:06 PM

I refuse to believe Holland is that stupid. However, if this were to happen, I would officially side with the F*** Ken Holland crowd...