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#2674963 This hits the nail on the head......

Posted by krsmith17 on Yesterday, 10:49 AM

Four years is an eternity in professional sports? Seriously? In what sense? I'd love to hear your rationale on this...


"The ship" is not sinking. How difficult is it for some people to understand that we are in the process of a "rebuild"? We are and have been in the process of transitioning from the vets to the youth over the past few seasons, and we've still made the playoffs every season since then. But that's not good enough. People want us to fade from the Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Kronwall era to the Larkin, Mantha, DeKeyser era all while winning Cups every year along the way. It's completely unrealistic expectations.


I'm sure not a single Red Wing player, management or fan is at all happy with the end result of any of the past five or so seasons. However, the players, management and most reasonable fans understand that there is a process we need to go through in order to get back to the top. Some think we should completely "tank" and others are quite happy to see us continue to make it into the playoffs every year, continue developing the young talent, and eventually we should be in a good enough position to make some moves and turn this team back into a contender. I believe that should start this season. We should make a trade or two to upgrade our defense, continue to transition from the vets to the youth, and squeak into the playoffs for the final year at the Joe. After next season is when we should start to see some huge changes getting ready for the new, highly controversial Little Caesar's Arena. In short, I think this team has a very bright future, I am very happy with where we're headed, but no I am not content with just making the playoffs every season, and neither is anyone else...

#2674905 The Holiday tradition: 2016 Draft thoughts.....

Posted by krsmith17 on 02 May 2016 - 04:26 PM

As I said before, I'd like to take Lucas Johansen with our 2nd round pick and take Kenny Johnson in the 4th or 5th round as a sleeper pick...

Not surprised that Bean is rising, but very surprised that Chychrun is falling. I say we go hard after him. Trade Pulkkinen or Ouellet to move up a few spots if he's still available at 10-12...

#2674715 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 30 April 2016 - 11:52 PM

My offseason wishlist...

- Trade Pulkkinen along with our first to move up in the draft, and take Bean.
- Trade Ericsson (retain $1M) to Edmonton for 2016 3rd.
- Trade Howard to Carolina for low level prospect.
- Trade Tatar, Ouellet and 2017 first to Winnipeg for Trouba.
- Re-sign all RFA's.
- Re-sign Helm 5 years at $3.25M.
- Datsyuk plays out the remaining year of his contract.

Larkin - Datsyuk - Abdelkader
Nyquist - Zetterberg - Mantha
Athanasiou - Sheahan - Jurco
Helm - Glendening - Callahan

DeKeyser - Trouba
Smith - Green
Kronwall - Marchenko


#2674348 Official - Little Caesars Arena

Posted by krsmith17 on 28 April 2016 - 08:18 PM

Yeah, sure it would be pretty cool if it were given a better name, or if it were named after one of the greats, but it's not the worst thing that could happen.

Regarding the top of the dome, if I'm not mistaken, wasn't it said that they would be able to change it for different events? Like for a concert, they could have the band logo or artists name on top, maybe they'll have the Winged Wheel up there for every game as well.

Regardless, no matter what it's called or what logo is on the top, it's not going to stop me from ever going down for a game and rooting on the Wings...

#2674322 Mantha

Posted by krsmith17 on 28 April 2016 - 07:15 PM

No one is over hyping Mantha. Every single person has said that he wasn't great, but he certainly was good. We never expected him to carry the team, he just made the team better. The same way it would be ridiculous to scratch Tatar for the 5 playoff games and insert Andersson. It's an absolute joke that people are still defending that move...

Also, him being a "liability" defensively is being completely overstated. He's not a defensive player, nor should he be, but in the 10 games he played he definitely wasn't a liability...

#2674139 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 28 April 2016 - 08:17 AM

"One thing that we want to do, we want to help our guys get better," Blashill said. "That doesn't always mean production wise you're going to improve from year to year. Sometimes it has to do with minutes, and there are only so many minutes to go around, and that can affect a lot of things including production. But part of what we want to do here is make sure we help our guys get better and make sure that we get better as a team."

I'm hoping this is Blashill's way of saying that he will be relying more heavily on the kids next season to "help them get better". I'd rather lose some games with the kids at the beginning of the season than lean heavily on the vets again. The only way they'll learn is to learn from their mistakes in game situations.

I'm hoping Zetterberg is 2nd line winger or 3rd line center, and Kronwall is 3rd pair defenseman, both getting around 12-15 minutes a game...

#2674135 Mantha

Posted by krsmith17 on 28 April 2016 - 06:41 AM

To be fair Buppy, I don't think Rich was saying "I told you so" to anyone in particular here, I think that original comment was more so directed toward Holland and his "spare part in the Calder Cup playoffs a year ago" comment... I could be wrong though. Regardless, he was just posting about how he was doing in the playoffs so far, and he's been doing very well down there. He also responded to Dickie's comment about how "Mantha was not good", with "pure craziness. he was good. he wasn't great", and I couldn't agree more with that statement. The thing that is getting confused here is that no one here is saying Mantha is elite or would have put us over the top, but we are saying that he is a very good young player, and he could have definitely helped in the Red Wings playoff run...


How is it premature to say he made the team better, when the stats showed that our power-play was much better with him in the lineup? Was it a coincidence? Maybe, but you don't completely dismiss the idea that maybe he was actually a difference maker out there. I believe he was, others don't, including Blashill, but when our power-play was literally the reason we lost that series and was more deflating to the team than positive, something should have been changed... Maybe you try what worked a couple weeks previous, maybe it works, maybe it doesn't, but it would have certainly been worth a try...


Yes, he really should have been compared to Andersson because that's who he should have displaced in the lineup. Andersson should have been out because like you said, he barely played, and wasn't even used a whole lot in the situations Blashill claimed he needed him in for. Just because player B subs in for player A, doesn't necessarily mean that player B assumes the same role in the lineup. If Andersson comes out, a much better player that was currently in the top 6, like Helm for example, moves down to Andersson's position in the lineup, and Mantha moves into the top 6. Helm is MUCH better than Andersson, so he instantly makes the line of Athanasiou - Andersson Helm - Tatar much better. Mantha then gets inserted into the top 6 on Pavs's line and all of a sudden the Richards - Datsyuk - Helm Mantha line is maybe slightly better as well.. I love Helm but he's much better suited for the bottom 6, and if one of those missed Helm opportunities had been capitalized on by Mantha, maybe it's a difference maker in a game, and in turn a difference maker in the series. Again, not saying we definitely win with Mantha in the lineup, but I do believe the series would have been a little tighter with him in there over Andersson...


Does comparing Mantha to a player that by rights shouldn't even be in the NHL mean he's great? Nope, and no one is saying that he is. But he is good, and he should have been in the lineup.


Anyway, that's the last I will say about how he "should" have been in the lineup... Now, all I'll say is he "better" be in the lineup to start next season...

#2674109 Fixing this mess....

Posted by krsmith17 on 27 April 2016 - 09:36 PM

I couldn't disagree more with that, but whatever...

#2674081 Mantha

Posted by krsmith17 on 27 April 2016 - 08:16 PM

"good addition", "added an element", "potential", "I hope to see Mantha on the roster in october"... I can't speak for everyone but I'm pretty sure that's all most of us were / are saying...

#2674060 Mantha

Posted by krsmith17 on 27 April 2016 - 06:56 PM

I don't understand where people are getting that Mantha is in any way being overrated by anyone?... The argument that any of us that are pro-Mantha have had is that he should have been in the lineup during the playoffs. Not because with him we would have without a doubt beaten Tampa, but because he would have given us a better opportunity than Andersson did.

No one has said he's an All-Star or this phenomenal player, we're just saying that he's a good young player, and he makes our team better. It could also be argued that being in the NHL for the Red Wings playoff run (which may or may not be still alive) could have been better for his development than being in the AHL for the Griffins playoff run...

#2674026 The Holiday tradition: 2016 Draft thoughts.....

Posted by krsmith17 on 27 April 2016 - 02:04 PM

Just differing opinions. I was just asking Richdg to back up his claims that Bean isn't good defensively. Regardless, I'd be more than happy if we could snag him with our pick.

Yeah, I'd like to keep all of our picks as well, but I'd trade our first and second round picks for Trouba in a heartbeat...

#2674002 Mantha

Posted by krsmith17 on 27 April 2016 - 10:14 AM

I missed the first game, but watched the last two and Mantha looked really good in both. He still coasts a bit, but always seems to find the quiet areas in the offensive zone, which seems to be what all true snipers are able to do. Both of his goals last night were heavy shots, one was a snap shot that went through the net, and the other was a bullet one-timer from the point. As much as I like him as a net front guy on the power-play, with his shot, I'd almost rather see him utilized on the right half-boards. Regardless, there's no question he needs to be a full-time Red Wing to start next season.


Sproul and Russo have both looked really good as well and I hope Sproul makes the team as our number 7 to start next season...

#2673988 Holland (selfishly) declined promotion

Posted by krsmith17 on 27 April 2016 - 08:26 AM

Yeah, Holland was a great GM, probably the best in the business for a lot of years, but he's never been known (in the cap era) to make any big trades to help this team. In three short years Nill has turned that team around, and made some of the best trades league wide in that time frame. I have full confidence that Holland will get great deals for our RFA's, but making a big trade for a top pairing defenseman... I'm not so sure. I think if Nill took over for this team three years ago, our defense and team as a whole would look entirely different... For better or worse? Who knows...


I do still think Holland was probably the better man for the job in this "rebuilding" phase though. There's no question he is a very patient, methodical GM, and that's what you need in a rebuild. Because of Kenny, the Red Wings have been known for their ability of drafting and developing players, and many other teams have taken on the same model.


I think we're just about done the rebuilding phase, now I think he has a big opportunity starting this summer to get this team back on track. Not just into the playoffs, but back to being a contender. I think he needs to make a couple moves this summer, get us back into the playoffs for the last season at the Joe, and then by 2017, opening of the new arena, we should be back in the top tier of teams. Yes, I do think that it's possible to make that happen in just a year and a half... Get 'er done Kenny!

#2673983 Making a move with AUTHORITY!

Posted by krsmith17 on 27 April 2016 - 07:55 AM

I agree that we'd be much better off using those assets to trade for a player like Trouba rather than to trade up in the draft. A guy that just turned 22 that can help us immediately and would be a huge part of our future core moving forward in the "rebuild".


I will say though, that I think Chychrun is going to be a stud, probably not quite as good as Ekblad, but would likely be a top 2 pick in most draft years. This year is a very deep draft that is forward heavy at the top. I also think he could possibly be ready the year after drafting him, the same way as Larkin. But for all those reasons, I say there's little to no chance we're able to move up high enough to land him.


I do agree that you should be looking at the best player available in the first, but if you have two players in mind (a forward and a defenseman) that you have ranked around the same, I think you draft based on need then. My ideal scenario to bolster this defense going forward would be to trade for Trouba, and draft two high end defensemen in the first two rounds...

#2673797 Ownership shows Support for Kenny Holland

Posted by krsmith17 on 26 April 2016 - 08:57 AM

This year is weaker than years previous, and next year and so on will be weaker again, that's the way the NHL is going. Teams are locking up their stars, so not near as many hit the open market, hence the importance of drafting and developing...


I've stated my opinion on this so many times now, but here it is again. Like you said, we're not getting any of the top "current" defensemen, aka Doughty, Weber, Pietrangelo, etc. The key is looking for young, up and coming defenders, that you think have a chance to develop into the next wave of elite defensemen. Who that is? I'm not sure, but they're out there.


I want us to go hard after Jacob Trouba, not because I think he is an elite defenseman, but because I think he has all the tools and potential to become an elite defenseman in a few years. I also think he is better than the majority of what we have on our blueline right now, and even if he doesn't hit his ceiling, he will still be a very solid second pairing defenseman. So we can go after a Keith Yandle and pay him $6+M to be our second pair defenseman, basically a left handed Mike Green, or we can package together a deal that could bring Jacob Trouba in with a floor of second pair defenseman and ceiling of elite top pair defenseman...