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#2537892 Are the wings underrated?

Posted by krsmith17 on Today, 09:45 AM

Couldn't agree more Jesusberg. I really hope Babcock has his pairings...


Kronwall - Ericsson

DeKeyser - Smith

Quincey - Kindl / prospect


#2537883 Are the wings underrated?

Posted by krsmith17 on Today, 06:46 AM

I don't get what some people expect from Smith but he's progressing quite well in my opinion. You have to understand that he is still very young for a defenseman in the NHL especially on the Red Wings. Most defensemen don't hit their prime until the age of 27-28 in this league, Smith is just 25 years old. It is a very difficult position to adapt to at the highest level.


Let's just compare him to a somewhat similar type player that is currently in the Red Wings organization. although Niklas Kronwall is more of a two-way defenseman he was always known to be a power-play quarterback that can put up points. He was also a late first round draft pick. Both players were 22 years old when they got their first taste with the Red Wings. Kronwall played 20 games and put up 5 (1-4) points, Smith played 14 games and put up 7 (1-6) points. The following year was a lockout year for Kronwall, Smith regressed a little that year, playing 34 games and putting up just 8 (0-8) points. The following year at the age of 24 Kronwall played in 27 games, putting up 9 (1-8) points, while at the same age (last season) Smith played in 71 games and put up 19 (5-14) points. At the age of 25 Kronwall played 68 games and put up 22 (1-21) points, and I expect Smith to put up better numbers than that this season. I don't think 30 points is at all out of reach for him this season, while also playing much better defense, as long as himself along with the rest of the team stay relatively healthy.


Also, speaking of Smith's defensive game, I think it has grown a ton in the past 6-8 months. I'll also compare him to another fellow Red Wing that everyone loved to hate just a few short seasons ago. Jonathan Ericsson was a turnover machine and was a disaster in his own end. Now look at him, he is probably our best shutdown defenseman. Why is so hard to believe that Smith will shore up his defensive game, even more than he already has over the past year? I think he will.


I doubt anyone ever would have thought Kronwall would have been our number one defenseman and that he would have been as solid at both ends of the ice as he is. Or even that Ericsson would be a capable number 2-3 shutdown defenseman. If you don't think the same thing can happen with Smith in his development, that happened to our current number one and number two, I don't know what to tell you. If you don't see the growth and potential in Smith I don't know what else to say, but it is definitely there and only time will tell. I would be surprised if he doesn't grow into a number 2-3 two-way defenseman in the next couple seasons. Like I said, only time will tell...

#2537871 Are the wings underrated?

Posted by krsmith17 on Yesterday, 09:11 PM

We get it Kip, you don't like Babcock, he's not a great coach, totally overrated. You're right, the rest of the hockey world is wrong. Also, Smith sucks and will never be worth a damn...

#2537840 9/29 Exhibition GDT : Maple Leafs 0 at Red Wings 3

Posted by krsmith17 on Yesterday, 01:26 PM

Like I said, Babcock isn't perfect. He does misuse some of his players but for the most part I do think he does get the most out of most of his players. I do think Smith has been misused, I do think Tatar has been misused, I do think Weiss has been and may continue to be misused and I do think Legwand was misused in the playoff last year. But he does squeeze every ounce of talent out of guys like Glendening, Abdelkader, Miller, etc... Anyway, you're turning this into something it wasn't. Babcock is a great coach, there is no denying that but he has his faults. Smith is a great player in the making and he will get better.

Keep dreaming themcityblues...

#2537814 Are the wings underrated?

Posted by krsmith17 on Yesterday, 09:54 AM

Nope! There was only one game in my opinion that we got outplayed badly, game 3 if I recall correctly... The other 4 games regardless of the final score could have gone either way in my opinion...


I also find it very funny that some people say that THAT series was the telling sign of what type of team we are... We were without our captain and best player for the better part of the series, every single player was worn out from the grind of the regular season because of the ridiculous amount of injuries we had. I don't think we will know exactly what this team is capable of until we see them fully healthy, or at least moderately healthy... We will see what this team is capable of at it's full potential in a few weeks, and a lot of people on here will refuse to eat crow and claim that they were behind this team 100% all along...

#2537812 9/29 Exhibition GDT : Maple Leafs 0 at Red Wings 3

Posted by krsmith17 on Yesterday, 09:03 AM

Come on now Kip, even you have to admit that Smith looked great last night. Jensen was awesome, but there is no denying that Smith did exactly what you say you want him to do (skate the puck out of trouble and get it to a forward) last night. Smith is going to take another huge step this year and even you will be impressed, mark my words. ;)

#2537378 2014 Preseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 26 September 2014 - 11:03 AM

I'll never understand how a fan of a team can hope for a player on that team to fail... hoping that Cleary sucks, hoping he doesn't get in his 10 games isf****** ridiculous...


As a fan of the team, and a huge fan of Cleary as a person, I hope he has a career year and blows every skeptic away with his solid play. I know it's not likely to happen at this stage of his career but I'm not about to hope he fails...


I really hope that Nyquist - Zetterberg - Franzen line stays intact to start the season. I think they will dominate. @ Jesusberg - I know right? I wish Pulkkinen would be put in a position to succeed, on a scoring line. He's not a checker, so stop using him as one...

#2536730 9/22/14 7:00 PM. Preseason GDT - DET 2 @ PIT 1

Posted by krsmith17 on 22 September 2014 - 12:09 PM

Darren Helm-Pavel Datsyuk-Tomas Tatar
Tomas Jurco-Riley Sheahan-Daniel Cleary
Drew Miller-Joakim Andersson-Martin Frk
Jeff Hoggan-Andreas Athanasiou-Colin Campbell

Niklas Kronwall-Jonathan Ericsson
Xavier Ouellet-Alexey Marchenko
Mattias Backman-Ryan Sproul

Jimmy Howard (first two periods)
Petr Mrazek (third period)

#2536571 Training Camp Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 19 September 2014 - 09:17 AM

IF Alfredsson isn't ready to go, and it's looking more and more like he won't be, and IF Jurco starts the season in Detroit, I'd love to see our top two lines as...


Nyquist - Zetterberg - Franzen

Tatar - Datsyuk - Jurco




Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Jurco

Nyquist - Franzen - Tatar

#2536559 Flames adding Truculence...Yonkman, Gillies PTO

Posted by krsmith17 on 19 September 2014 - 06:24 AM

I agree completely rick zombo. I think many people would be thinking a little differently if we were to miss the playoffs a few year in a row and then had to wait another so many years before we were true cup contenders again. I'd much rather the Red Wings approach and tweak / rebuild on the fly. We've done it after Yzerman, Fedorov and co. with Zetterberg and Datsyuk. I believe we're a lot closer than some people realize to doing it once again with guys like Nyquist, Tatar, Jurco, Mantha, Athanasiou, Pulkkinen, Nosek and Frk. Obviously not all guys are going to make it, let alone have the same impact that the previous guys had but I do believe we have at least two from that list that will make a huge impact similar to Pav and Hank.


Tanking has proven not to work for various teams, so why do it? What Burke is doing in Calgary is a mockery of the league in my opinion. He's always been a fan of building tough, hard to play against teams, but c'mon man, that team is ridiculous. Do the guys like Monahan, Gaudreau, Baertschi, Granlund, Bennett all need two fighters to protect each of them? I don't think so... I don't think a team NEEDS any fighters on their roster (although I wouldn't mind having ONE) but does a team really need a dozen fighters?... M-o-c-k-e-r-y...

#2536436 Mantha's Injury

Posted by krsmith17 on 17 September 2014 - 01:48 PM

If you read the post directly before mine you would understand that my comment was in no way directed toward you. It was somewhat of a mock toward the previous comment of "Welcome to the Red Wings, where injuries are expected!" and also to the many other people I expected to follow up with panic - "the sky is falling" - replies... Your question was valid and I didn't say anything about that, however, I'm not really sure if it was thread worthy... It could have easily been questioned in the other Mantha thread or the Pre-Season thread. Anyway, relax, it wasn't directed at you...

#2536425 2014 Prospects Tournament and Training Camp (Sept. 12-23)

Posted by krsmith17 on 17 September 2014 - 11:45 AM

Exactly what I was saying DeGraa... How you read "this kid is a keeper" and translate that to "this kid is a generational talent" is beyond me...

#2536422 Mantha's Injury

Posted by krsmith17 on 17 September 2014 - 11:28 AM

Welcome to LGW, where everything is blown way out of proportion!...

#2536408 2014 Prospects Tournament and Training Camp (Sept. 12-23)

Posted by krsmith17 on 17 September 2014 - 09:52 AM

Yup, Athanasiou looks unreal. I hope Blashill plays him and Mantha together all year in Grand Rapids.


Once again, extremely happy Holland doesn't have the quick trigger finger that a lot of LGWers have. A lot of people on here were ready to trade this kid just a few short months ago. I said it back then and I'll say it again now, this kid is a keeper for sure.

#2536297 2014 Prospects Tournament and Training Camp (Sept. 12-23)

Posted by krsmith17 on 16 September 2014 - 12:39 PM

I don't doubt that there is a chance Mantha could suit up for the Wings at some point this season, but I still say it's a zero percent chance he makes the team out of camp. Let's see how he adapts to the pro game down in Grand Rapids first, and then we can re-evaluate this whole thing in a couple months. How many injuries will there be in the first couple months and will Mantha dominate the American League like so many are expecting?...