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#2566136 LA puts Mike Richards on waivers

Posted by krsmith17 on 27 January 2015 - 12:53 PM

How do you not see that Kip? Mike Richards is far superior to Tomas Jurco and Teemu Pulkkinen... Richards won a World Junior Gold, an Olympic Gold and two Stanley Cups... What the f*** have those two chumps done? And Danf****** Cleary and Johanf****** Franzen are awwwwful... :rolleyes:

#2566118 Give Patrick Hersley a shot?

Posted by krsmith17 on 27 January 2015 - 09:00 AM

I don't get why it's so hard to grasp the fact that every player develops at different rates. Some hone their skills at a very young age, others take a little longer to develop. Their are a lot of cases over the years where players didn't play their first game in the NHL until their late 20's, even into their mid to late 30's, believe it or not. number9, you pointed out that St. Louis didn't start his career until his mid 20's, and yet as an undersized player that was always told he was too small to make the NHL, he went on to be an All-Star, Hart winning player, who in all likelihood will be inducted into the Hockey Hall Of Fame. Is it really that hard to believe that a player who is 28 years old, has good size, is one of the top defenders in arguably the second best league in hockey, can be a serviceable player at the NHL level? I don't think anyone including Ekmanc was saying that he is going to come over and put up ridiculous numbers, making Wings fans say "Lidstrom who?", but it is possible he could become a decent 3rd pairing, power-play specialist.


In saying all that, I wouldn't mind giving him an invite to training camp this summer, but I wouldn't just hand him a contract based on his numbers over in Europe (KHL / SHL). We have a few talented guys that should make their way onto the big club in the next couple years, so I don't really see a fit, but it never hurts to give the guy a look.

#2565823 Time for Teemu?

Posted by krsmith17 on 24 January 2015 - 05:34 PM

Agreed kliq, although I think you mean Kevin Shattenkirk, not Keith... :tounge:

#2565766 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by krsmith17 on 24 January 2015 - 06:45 AM

frank, "Holland's job is to defend the trade as much as possible"? No, Holland's job is to make this team as competitive as he possibly can, every single year... That involves making trades to improve the team in the now, without mortgaging the future, keeping in mind the team 5 years from now. I'll admit, I was a little shocked by what we had to give up to get Legwand here for a few months, and I was a little disappointed at the time. However, if anyone thinks, that trade mortgaged the future, or even set us back, are not looking at things clearly. Jarnkrok is a pretty decent young player, and I think he still has the potential to be a 40-50 point guy in this league. But that's the type of production that can be replaced any year by a FREE agent... which in my opinion has already been done this past summer, with the signing of Tomas Nosek.


People really need to get over this minuscule botch on Holland's resume, it was one minor bad, not awful trade... Also, just because it doesn't matter to you, believe it or not, the streak is important to a lot of fans, and the entire organization, Holland did a great job in keeping that intact.

#2565727 Time for Teemu?

Posted by krsmith17 on 23 January 2015 - 05:58 PM

I really wish I could "quote"... Still have no idea why I can't...


Kip, you say "I won't be surprised if he's traded", and yes I did respond by saying, "he shouldn't be traded, he's going to be good", but I also say "there's no way he get's traded". It's not just about what I want or think should happen with this team, it's about what I truly believe Mr. Ken Holland will do.


You're absolutely right in that I like this team, and I like a lot of certain players. I guess a lot of that has to do with me watching a lot of them right from when they were drafted, in junior, making their way up to the minors, before eventually cracking the Red Wings lineup... you do tend to get attached to certain players, and I honestly think a similar thing happens with Holland... However, like almost any player, I'm not opposed to trading Pulkkinen at the right price and for the right return, I just don't see that happening...


There are not many guys in the entire league that can shoot the puck like Pulkkinen. I put him in the same category as guys like Ovechkin and Stamkos when it comes to his pure sniping ability. There are things he needs to work on for sure, like timing and what not, but his shot alone, not many compare. Bottom line, I just honestly, truly would be shocked if this guy is in any package deal at this years deadline, not because I like him, but because I think Holland and Babcock like him, and see the potential in him...


Jesusberg, if a trade is on the table and part of the package has to include one of Mantha, Larkin or Pulkkinen, I honestly think he says, thanks but no thanks. And I'd be happy with that assuming the player on the other end wasn't a superstar talent... I think it is more likely that Jurco gets offered in a trade before Pulkkinen, which I would also hate, because he's another guy that I'm really high on. I guess bottom line is, like Kip alluded to, I like our team, and even more so, I like our future team. Hold on to the kids and keep building. We will be a perennial contender and eventually win the Cup with the kids we currently have in the system, I have no doubt.


I completely agree with Buppy.

#2565674 Time for Teemu?

Posted by krsmith17 on 23 January 2015 - 11:06 AM

Again, we have other assets that could be used in a trade before Pulkkinen. He is far and away the purest goal scorer in the organization and he is right handed to boot. In my opinion, it would be very short sighted to trade him at this point. Sure, it is possible that he tops out as a third line winger / power-play specialist, but it also isn't out of the realm of possibility that he surpasses a guy like Tatar or even Nyquist on the depth chart in a few years. The kid has been a beast in every league he has played, no reason to think he can't be in the NHL as well...

#2565661 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by krsmith17 on 23 January 2015 - 08:18 AM

Which to me, is a good thing. Sure, I'd love to have Yandle, but not at the price it would likely take. And no to Myers, unless it's for Kindl and Andersson......


Let's face it, at times Holland's strategy has looked kinda bleak, but there is no question, the guy knows what he's doing. He is drafting well, developing prospects and once again building a contender, all while never missing the playoffs in 23 years... and counting. I don't think anyone should have any reason to question anything this man does. For every move he makes, there's a reason behind it, and that reason is to make the Detroit Red Wings a better team. He's making the right decisions for the team today, while concentrating on the team 5 years from now. Sure, it would be nice to see a trade from time to time, but the players us fans would want traded (Kindl / Andersson) there isn't much of a market for. The young talent that we have grown to love, probably would have been traded years ago for a quick fix, by most any other GM. Hands down the best general manager in the league today, and quite possibly in the history of the league...

#2565628 Time for Teemu?

Posted by krsmith17 on 22 January 2015 - 09:24 PM

I don't see why one would think this guy would get traded... I'd say there is about a 0.01% chance he gets traded. Why would Holland trade away the player with two of the main attributes he's been looking for in a player in the past decade... Right-handed / Sniper. The kid is here to stay, he will be fine, he will work out the kinks in his game down in Grand Rapids, and he will come back hungrier, stronger, and a much better all around player...

#2564838 Petry next Oiler to be shopped - FTLOG Kenny, get it done!

Posted by krsmith17 on 20 January 2015 - 09:31 AM

I agree with all of that, but also, if Petry were to come to Detroit, chances are he would be on our second, if not our third pairing, while still getting his power-play time. Maybe his point totals decrease with the decreased ice time, or maybe they increase with the better power-play... Who knows right? But to trade a 25 year old Smith plus other assets for Petry would be a HUGE mistake in my opinion. I'm just thankful Holland doesn't have the quick trigger finger that most on here have. And I'm confident that Smith isn't going anywhere unless it's for a significant upgrade.

#2564832 Petry next Oiler to be shopped - FTLOG Kenny, get it done!

Posted by krsmith17 on 20 January 2015 - 09:06 AM

Wow people are really reaching for this Smith is useless bulls***... First of all Brendan Smith is just as good as Jeff Petry right now, and he has a lot higher ceiling... and you're suggesting trading Smith AND a mid level prospect AND a pick for Petry? Are you kidding me? The blind hate on Smith is getting beyond ridiculous... Petry will go for a couple picks and you want to throw all that in for him?...


Petry is getting top line minutes in Edmonton, while Smith is getting third line minutes in Detroit, and yet he still isn't producing a significant amount more than Smith. Petry is producing at a 0.22% points per game pace, while Smith is producing at a 0.17% points per game pace. Not a huge difference for a player making over double the salary... Petry has also played an additional 36 minutes more on the power-play than Smith has this season. With those kinds of minutes on the man advantage, you would think he would be producing a LOT more, he is not at all. Let's have a look at their career points shall we? Believe it or not, Smith is actually producing at a slightly higher clip than Petry... Smith has 41 points in 160 games (0.256%) while Petry has 69 points in 281 games (0.245%).


You blame Smith for being a turnover machine, but Petry has over double the number of giveaways as Smith but he also has twice as many takeaways... Petry may be a little better defensively, hitting more and blocking more shots, but that stat is almost as skewed as the +/- stat, which Smith is obviously superior, playing for a better team, Smith is even and Petry is a -21. The only upside Petry has over Smith in my opinion, is that he is a right handed shot. Is that reason enough to make the trade? Hell no!

#2564793 Are the Wings a Contender?

Posted by krsmith17 on 19 January 2015 - 07:03 PM

Kip, it fits your argument this time does it? You're really going to say that Babcock always gives his players appropriate ice time? He never demotes players for absolutely no explainable reason? Seriously? What about Weiss? Smith has proved time and time again that he deserves more minutes, he deserves to be on the second line, he deserves to be on the second power-play unit. But he is not. Why? Because... Mike Babcock...


Yes, all players should produce more when playing with better players and in situations to their strengths, and Smith has produced in these situations, but yet, he's still not getting permanent duty.


And yes, when Kronwall screws up, most of the time it does go unnoticed by fans, or at least not endlessly bitched about, whereas if Smith screws up, you never hear the end of it. I'm not blind to Smith's screw ups. I see when he screws up, but I see a lot more good that he's doing out there than bad, and that scale is being tipped more and more each and every game. He is improving immensely whether you want to see it or not...

#2564751 Are the Wings a Contender?

Posted by krsmith17 on 19 January 2015 - 02:30 PM

There is no specific number of games that every individual should get. And yes, I agree that a player drafted later should get more time to develop, but Ericsson is long past the development process, and he has been much worse than Smith the first half of this season, but yet, for some unexplained reason, he gets a pass but Smith does not. Smith is still improving, and I see improvements in his game all the time. Just because you refuse to see it, doesn't mean it's not happening... Brendan Smith today is night and day compared to Brendan Smith one year ago.


Another thing, Smith isn't exactly getting the minutes or the linemates he needs to put up huge points. He looked great with both Kronwall and DeKeyser and I think if he were ever put back with DeKeyser on the second pair, we'd see a huge difference in his point totals. Do you think it's any coincidence that Quincey is starting to produce being paired with DeKeyser? I sure don't... Smith is now paired with Ouellet, and no matter how great LGW see Xavier, he is still just a rookie. I'm sure Smith plays a lot more tentative with Ouellet than he would with DeKeyser. Either way, he is playing bottom pairing and he is playing quite good in my opinion. Give him a better partner and more minutes and he will play better.

X 10 Echolalia!!!

#2564714 Jimmy Howard.......All-Star!

Posted by krsmith17 on 19 January 2015 - 08:05 AM

I couldn't agree more Playmaker. +10


Also, in regards to the Mrazek vs Howard debate... Before last night I wanted to sign Mrazek to a mega deal and trade Howard, but after last nights performance, I think we should probably trade or maybe even waive Mrazek. We probably wouldn't get much in return after last nights performance anyway. I mean 3 goals allowed on 7 shots? That's aaaawful. He will never ever get it done at the NHL level, unless of course he has a bounce back game next game. Then, we should probably trade Howard. I mean, no team wants to have two capable goaltenders at one time, that would be what they call a "goalie controversy", bad news... I'm not sure, am I doing this right?... f***in LGW... :lol:

#2564231 Tyler Bertuzzi

Posted by krsmith17 on 18 January 2015 - 02:22 PM

Bertuzzi continues to impress. We have two guys in the top 20 goal scoring in the OHL.


Bertuzzi is 9th with 60 points (27 goals, 33 assists) in 43 games, and Nastasiuk is 20th with 48 points (23 goals, 25 assists) in 40 games.

#2564224 All Purpose Grand Rapids Griffins Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 18 January 2015 - 01:50 PM

Sproul was our best defender for a while there, playing great hockey, while paired with Paetsch. The past few games he has been paired with Brennan Evans and he hasn't looked near as good. A lot can be said about the veteran presence of a guy like Nathan Paetsch, he makes whoever he is paired with, that much better. There's no question that Marchenko is our most consistent, and definitely most NHL ready defenseman. He is more of a shut down defender but can put up some points as well. He doesn't shoot very often, despite having a pretty decent shot, he is also a very underrated passer. He leads the Griffins defense in points, despite getting very little power-play time, spending most of his time at even strength and penalty kill.


Mantha hasn't been playing as well as many had anticipated, but he's right where I figured he would be at this point. I said that I think he will start to pick it up after Christmas and I still expect that to be the case. He has been playing much better as of late, although he did have a pretty forgettable game last night, with a couple horrendous turnovers. The thing that I still see Mantha lacking, is what he was labeled for in his draft year, up until he supposedly proved everyone wrong in his final year of junior. He lacks compete level. Often times he will give the puck away and then show little to no effort in trying to get it back. He doesn't back check the way he should, and until he improves his defensive game, I don't see him making the jump to the NHL. I'm sure Blashill has had talks with him and I'm sure he will get it straightened out, but until then, he will remain down in Grand Rapids.