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#2684091 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 27 July 2016 - 06:43 PM

I wouldn't give up much for Shattenkirk on an expiring contract. I'd prefer to go after a defenseman with a little more term, or be sure he would be willing to re-sign in Detroit, like would be the case for a hometown kid like Trouba...


#2684071 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 27 July 2016 - 03:07 PM

PVD, if you value "safe", "defensive", and "shot blocking" then yes, Glendening is a solid choice. However, I personally think all of those qualities are overrated in today's game. I prefer players that are capable and willing to take risks to make things happen offensively. The best defense is a good offense. I'd also rather players that use their speed and hockey smarts to position themselves so they don't have to block a ton of shots. I don't think Glendening is completely useless (like Miller and Ott), because he does have decent wheels. I just don't believe in locking up 4th line players for another 5 years at nearly $2M per, especially a full calender year before it needed to be done...


#2684033 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 27 July 2016 - 10:41 AM

... and on the flip side, if we let Ericsson walk back a couple years ago and he became what Hjalmarsson is in Chicago, the same people would be complaining that Holland let a top 4 defenseman with great size walk for nothing... Hindsight is 20/20, and some people, no matter what, will find something to b**** about. We should have done this, we shouldn't have done that...

Regardless, I'm happy with these two contracts. Good job Holland.

Now if you could just grow some balls and make a trade, I'd be thrilled...


#2683956 DeKeyser re-signed to a 6 year deal

Posted by krsmith17 on 26 July 2016 - 11:39 AM

Sproul >>> Wisniewski




#2683919 DeKeyser re-signed to a 6 year deal

Posted by krsmith17 on 26 July 2016 - 09:00 AM

A little higher than I would have liked, but overall I think it's a solid deal.




#2683819 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 25 July 2016 - 11:49 AM

Ohhhh, THAT'S your point... That wasn't clear the last 500 posts you've made regarding Helm since he was signed 25 days ago...

 

Holland proved with this signing that Helm IS part of this teams future, and no, none of the kids you're talking about bring the same element Helm does, maybe with the exception of Athanasiou. Want to b**** about contracts and players taking up roster spots that aren't part of the future? How about Miller, Ott and Vanek... Helm is here for the long haul and you might as well get used to it... Or maybe we (myself in particular) should just get used to your constant b****ing, because hey, that's what you do... Same with Franzen, same with Nyquist, same with Ericsson, same with Howard, etc, etc, etc...




#2683810 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 25 July 2016 - 10:55 AM

Yeah, it sucks we're going to lose these guys because of the Helm signing...

 

Stop being so f***ing over dramatic... Both DeKeyser and Mrazek will be signed, likely before their arbitration hearings, and Helm's contract will not effect it in any way, shape, or form...




#2683673 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 22 July 2016 - 07:44 PM

I wouldn't say Helm is definitively the best 3rd line center in the league, but I do think he's one of the best (if not the best). The stats are there to prove it. What evidence do you want? I'm not going to compare every 3rd line center in the league, but if you wanted to take the time to do so, I guarantee Helm would stack up quite well with the competition.

Hahaha give it a f***ing rest Lefty. You of all people shouldn't be gloating about being "right". You've got to be one of the worst for trying to pass your personally bias on a player as fact. Once you start to hate on a player (for whatever reason), there's no amount of reasoning or facts that will change your mind. You weren't right on Franzen, or anyone else. In fact, every one of those players are better than you'll ever give them credit for and Helm is no different...


#2683658 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 22 July 2016 - 05:37 PM

You're flat out wrong on Helm. He is not a 4th liner, he is a very good 3rd line center / winger. He may be slightly overpaid, but only by around $500K, and that's certainly not worth all the b****ing you're doing about it...

As of right now he is better in that role than all the players you mentioned, maybe with the exception of Athanasiou. Stop trying to compare Helm with Miller and Ott. They're not even close to being similar in any way, other than the team they play for and the fact that they can kill penalties. But even then there's the difference that Helm is a much better penalty killer...


#2683651 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 22 July 2016 - 04:46 PM

Helm is absolutely valuable to this team... but Miller, Ott... not at all.


#2683625 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 22 July 2016 - 11:20 AM

If Jurco were to get traded for peanuts, everyone would be livid for years not weeks... If he were playing with any other organization he would be a very good middle 6 winger right now. Unfortunately, he has been severely mismanaged, and his value is at an all time low, so we literally won't know what we have / had until he's gone... Jurco is no all-star, but he's no Ville Leino type scrub either. It would be a mistake to trade him away for nothing...




#2683597 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 21 July 2016 - 05:06 PM

I refuse to believe Holland is that stupid. However, if this were to happen, I would officially side with the F*** Ken Holland crowd...


#2683564 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 21 July 2016 - 07:48 AM

I get the frustration, but I personally think the Nielsen signing was needed. We couldn't go into the season with Zetterberg / Sheahan / Larkin as our top 3 centers. Zetterberg needs his minutes cut, Larkin isn't ready for number one center duty, and while Sheahan can play 2nd line center in a pinch, I think he's better suited in the bottom 6. I'm one of the few that wanted Helm back, and while it may be half a mil too high and a couple years too long, I think it was a good signing. Vanek is a low risk, high reward signing, but I would have preferred to see a kid get that spot. The Miller and Ott signings are a complete joke... Without the latter three signings we could have had a few more spots open for the kids, who are mostly deserving of spots anyway... Of the players that you mentioned though, I only think Athanasiou and Mantha are ready to be full time NHLers. I'm completely fine with Bertuzzi spending another season in Grand Rapids, and honestly, I don't see Nosek as a high quality NHL player anyway. He might be a decent 3rd line center, but I'd much rather have Helm or Sheahan fill that spot...




#2683561 Who should get A?

Posted by krsmith17 on 21 July 2016 - 06:41 AM

... Or if say, I really hated Darren Helm (for whatever reason...) and I made the conscious effort to bash him in every single thread whether it's related or not...

 

Who should get the A? Not Helm, he sucks... Should we retire Datsyuk's and Zetterberg's jerseys? No, because Helm sucks... Pulkkinen re-signs... Yeah, but Helm sucks... Tampa re-signs Stamkos... Helm SUCKS!




#2683501 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 19 July 2016 - 08:51 PM

I think you quoted the wrong person, I didn't say anything about Nyquist or Pulkkinen there... Although I do think he can be had for a similar package, as long as there's a defenseman going back the other way. You're massively over-valuing Trouba though if you think it would cost near that much... We wouldn't have to give up DeKeyser in order to land him, just like we wouldn't have to give up DeKeyser to land any of the other potential top pair guys rumored to be available...

Winnipeg probably don't want to get rid of Trouba, but they're going to be forced to trade one of Trouba or Meyers before the expansion draft. Byfuglien and Enstrom (NMC's) have to be protected and they can only protect 3 defensemen. If they wanted to protect 4 defensemen, they would then only be able to protect 4 forwards, which I'm sure they're not willing to do...

If we put together a nice enough package centered around Nyquist and add in a defense prospect, and a high pick, I think it could get done. It's a moot point though, since I don't think Holland is even looking at trade options right now...