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#2423106 Cap Recapture Calculator

Posted by StormJH1 on 28 June 2013 - 01:12 PM

As big of an opponent as I was against backdiving deals and other 2005 CBA "cheats" and "workarounds", I still think this is massively unfair to teams that signed these deals, all of which were within the rules of the existing CBA and were approved by the league (except for Kovalchuk's first deal).


Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the effect of the recapture penalty to punish NHL front offices for taking advantage of the way cap hits are determined in the first place?  Duncan Keith and Marian Hossa will both make just shy of $8 million next year, but the salary cap treats them as if they were making $5 million.  To retroactively put into place a rule that punishes previously legal conduct makes no sense to me.  I have no problem with recapture penalties going forward (or other rules limiting year-to-year variance on salaries), but that's because teams are now under notice of the rules going forward.


Yes, I understand that the two compliance buyouts were granted to give teams an "out" for that, but that isn't a real solution either, since it forces you to release that player off your team (you can't re-sign a compliance buyout for one year afterwards).  If Zetterberg has kids in Sweden and wants to play there, or just decides that he wants to retire from the NHL for health or personal reasons, it just seems wrong to me that HE should be the one put in the position of tanking the Red Wings' salary cap situation by walking away from the team.


For the reasons stated by the OP, I kind of thought that Franzen was a borderline candidate for a buyout.  He isn't a player like a Datsyuk or Z that I feel could be productive into his late, late 30's.  His knee problems, physical style, and frame suggest a guy that will have a career arc more like Holmstrom, which means we'll be penalized when he hangs it up.

#2328819 waiver wire released

Posted by luvmnger on 14 September 2012 - 08:22 PM


exelby (yesterday)
t.j. hensick
zack boychuk

if we had space...damn.

i would definately like those guys in the griffs/wings system.

#2327485 So What's Up With Abby & Quincey?

Posted by GSBrooks13 on 01 September 2012 - 10:27 AM

I can't remember where I read it on Twitter (don't worry, not HockeeyyyyInsiderrrrr) but someone had quoted Abby as saying he expected to sign his new contract next week.

EDIT: I found the actual article from Khan where he adds it as a note

#2326556 Zetterberg`s Royal Swedish Balls -coming soon-

Posted by dirtydangles on 23 August 2012 - 12:06 PM

I actually work at Just Baked. These things are delicious. And, I get to meet Hank next week! I'm super excited.

When you see him, tell Hank "Boogidieboogidieboo" for me, he'll know what it means. :P

#2326546 Zetterberg`s Royal Swedish Balls -coming soon-

Posted by ZigZagYourTorso on 23 August 2012 - 11:30 AM

I actually work at Just Baked. These things are delicious. And, I get to meet Hank next week! I'm super excited.

#2325718 IF there is a lockout, where will our players likely end up?

Posted by kipwinger on 17 August 2012 - 04:44 PM

I don't know the answer to the op's question, but I wonder how it would work with the KHL given that I'm pretty sure each league has to honor the other's contracts? Anybody know if this would be a problem or no?

The real question for me is there any way of getting access to the Swedish and Russian hockey leagues (among others) via internet? Paid or unpaid. Is there a Center Ice package for other leagues? How will I get my hockey fill???

There are all sorts of streaming sites that you can choose from, and usually they'll have KHL games at least. Plus, I'd imagine if the NHL locked out and all the talent was in other leagues then more international streams would pop up to deal with the demand.

Here are a few I use:

#2325641 Hockey News sees us finishing 7th

Posted by dirtydangles on 17 August 2012 - 10:07 AM

I think we will see Z and Dats really step it up (85+points each) with the absence of Lids and guys like Fil, Kronner, Cleary will also have bigger effects than in the past. Maybe Franzen steps up? who knows...

#2317277 Hockey Prospectus

Posted by Guest on 09 July 2012 - 10:44 AM


#2315657 Zach Parise agrees to 13-year, $98-mil deal with Wild

Posted by Din758 on 05 July 2012 - 11:51 AM

i personally put alot of stock in the "hometown" and "family lives here" reasons. just think, most of us being metro-detroiters would play for the wings no matter what if we made the NHL. Thats what they did. Just childhood dreams coming to fruition.

#2315819 Wings hire Tom Renney as Assistant Coach (3-year contract)

Posted by Tim.D on 05 July 2012 - 03:03 PM

Quick question about these types of signings...

Per Darren Dreger of twitter: "Red Wings announce the hiring of Tom Renney as an associate coach. 3 year deal. Good things happen to good people. Good hire."

What exactly do the Red Wings (or any NHL origination for that matter) do to announce a signing like this? Do they just call up their closest reporter/beat writer and say "Hey, we signed so and so as a coach, considered it announced"?

They have press releases that announce signings officially.

#2315755 Wings hire Tom Renney as Assistant Coach (3-year contract)

Posted by hillbillywingsfan on 05 July 2012 - 01:59 PM

hahaha wiki

Detroit Red Wings

Accepting an assistant coaching position with the Red Wings on July 5, 2012, Renney is expected to be primarily responsible for the penalty kill. He is secretly planning to orchestrate a trade between the Wings and his former club in Edmonton which would send the Red Wings Shawn Horcoff, Ales Hemsky and Ryan Whitney in exchange for Brendan Smith.

#2314941 The Next Move

Posted by Dirty Dangle on 04 July 2012 - 03:29 PM

Enjoying some ginger ales on the Fourth of July I see.

#2313621 Suter Watch: Decision today, down to Wings/Wild

Posted by Guest on 03 July 2012 - 01:19 PM

This flight is brought to you by Amway.

#2313620 Suter Watch: Decision today, down to Wings/Wild

Posted by LeftWinger on 03 July 2012 - 01:19 PM

Why would they be there courting him? They could very well be there finalizing and picking him up to bring him to the Joe for the presser... according to most NHL experts at TSN and ESPN, Suter to Detroit is a done deal...I will go with that until it changes.

So lets just say, Wings contingent in Madison finalizing deal and bring Suter to Hockeytown.

#2313618 Suter Watch: Decision today, down to Wings/Wild

Posted by rick zombo on 03 July 2012 - 01:17 PM

dear god please end my blue balls and just make this happen. no more "just the tip" and lets get this love affair underway or its over.

Exactly. Sign Suter or have him tell you in person it's a no go, then get the drop on everyone else and sign whoever's left.