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#2684278 Red Wings All-Bust Roster

Posted by kickazz on 31 July 2016 - 02:58 PM

Whoever thinks Cleary was a bust probably has zero clue what "bust" means. And is likely equating typical "I hate Dan Cleary" narrative with the concept of being a "bust".


Aside from winning a Stanley cup with us he also scored the OT game winner against Anaheim in 2009. Not to mention he had two 20 goal seasons, a 26 goal season and scored more points than Datsyuk did in the playoffs at least 3 different times. Also scored more goals than Zetterberg did in 2011. So it's not even "efforts". He actually produced better than our star players did at times. And not just one time. Multiple times. 


His last playoffs with the Red Wings was in 2012-2013 where he scored 4 goals and 10 points whereas Dats scored 3 goals 9 points. Both played exactly 14 games.


So lol. 


Can't believe I just had to defend Dan Cleary. He might have been a washed up player for the last 3 or 4 years who no longer belonged in the line up, but the guy was no bust. He made a career here when the Red Wings gave him a chance. And he won a Stanley cup in the process. 


Not many people in the league can say that about themselves. And not many teams can say that about other players they give opportunities to. Usually when a team gives a chance to a player whose career is falling apart or declining, they end up being a bust. Not Dan Cleary though. That guy ended up winning a Stanley cup, recovering his falling career and went onto play 10 more seasons with a successful franchise.  

#2683927 DeKeyser re-signed to a 6 year deal

Posted by DickieDunn on 26 July 2016 - 09:18 AM

Unless he gets significantly better, if he's the cornerstone of the defense, the team is screwed

#2680889 Darren Helm re-signed: 5 years, $3.85m AAV

Posted by frankgrimes on 01 July 2016 - 09:24 AM

huge fan of Helm but this is too much for too long.

#2680423 Hall for Larsson - Oilers and Devils swap players

Posted by LeftWinger on 29 June 2016 - 09:42 PM

So,we could've had a #1 center for the price of Marchenko.

#2680344 Hall for Larsson - Oilers and Devils swap players

Posted by Detroit # 1 Fan on 29 June 2016 - 05:21 PM

All three top picks in the 2010 dealt, and Chiarelli traded away two of them :lol:

#2680380 Shea Weber for Pernal Karl Subban

Posted by kliq on 29 June 2016 - 06:56 PM

This thread is turning into a "is Weber washed up or not thread".


I dont think anyone truly believes Weber is a bad player, its just when you are traded for a player of PK's caliber, you are going to be put under a microscope as everyone wants to asses who "won" the trade.


Personally I think Nashville won, but not so much based on what hey can both do in 2016, more so the long term implications of this deal. Now with that being said, if what we are hearing is true, PK not being liked in the locker room and creating a divide AND with his no movement clause kicking in July 1st maybe this is the best they could get in return with the short window remaining. Alot of teams are likely unwilling to make a deal with free agency not even starting yet.


For me, the killer is Weber contract as the guy has an 8million cap hit until I think 2026. Because of this alone, Nashville wins. Weber is going to be a cap killer for Montreal in 5 years. Subban will likely be a good player for the majority of his contract.

#2673375 I Hate Jeff Blashill because ...

Posted by krsmith17 on 24 April 2016 - 03:20 PM

Pretty much the only thing I didn't like with Blashill was his player usage. It's been beaten to death, but he relied way to heavily on the vets and underutilized the kids. Blashill should not be fired, Firschweiler on the other hand, that guy has to go. I'm okay with Granato leaving as well. Two new assistants with a new perspective, fresh ideas and hopefully better speciality teams will help this team immensely...

Blashill took over a very similar team (with the addition of Richards and Green), previously coached by Mike "hockey god" Babcock, and had a very similar result - playoff bubble team, bounced in the first round. Firschweiler took over a top ranked power-play, previously coached by Jim Hiller, and made it into one of the worst in the entire league. Special teams, in my opinion, was the teams biggest downfall. Both the power-play and penalty kill were way too conservative. The power-play had very little movement, way too much passing, not enough shooting and way too much one and done. The penalty kill was way too passive, we did a good job taking away shooting lanes but never took away passing lanes. A successful penalty kill needs much more pressure on the puck and not allowing so many cross ice passes opening up the easy one-timer.

I still believe this team has a bright future, and Blashill is still the best coach for us right now. As long as he can clear his head this offseason, and come to the realization that this team can't rely on Datsyuk (if he's back), Zetterberg and Kronwall anymore, I think we'll be fine. We need to hand the reins over to the kids, Larkin, Mantha, Athanasiou and company need to take on much bigger roles to start next season.

#2669710 ECQF Game 2 Post-GDT: at Tampa Bay 5, Red Wings 2

Posted by Hockeytown0001 on 15 April 2016 - 10:17 PM

Blashill thinks that 6:52 of Andersson is more important than Mantha. 

#2641586 What are the chances Larkin wins the Calder ?

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 08 December 2015 - 11:13 AM

He won't win it.  They'll give it to Barrett Jackman again.   ;)

#2638293 Roster Moves by the Wings

Posted by rick zombo on 19 November 2015 - 10:19 PM

He allegedly wants to go to Weatern Canada, not Detroit, and the Islanders want an equally skilled defenseman in return to replace him.
Ie it's not happening. Of course all of the details will get lost a year or two from now when everyone says Holland sucks for not being able to acquire him for spare parts.

He has family Western Canada and wants to be close for personal reasons. A real GM like Nill or Yzerman would use pure willpower to induce a tectonic shift of the earth's crust, capable of moving the Pacific coast closer to Michigan. Holland sux.

#2633801 Roster Moves by the Wings

Posted by kipwinger on 28 October 2015 - 03:00 PM

So, just to be clear, you don't think he'd improve the team but you do think he'd make losing more entertaining? 

#2633805 Roster Moves by the Wings

Posted by kipwinger on 28 October 2015 - 03:17 PM

I think he would improve the entertainment value just like a guy like Biznasty would. We are talking about fourth liners here they aren't tasked to improve the team that's usually the job of the top 6 guys, top 4 defenders.


Sure.  I don't disagree.  But I'm just interested in your priorities.  We're having a discussion about roster moves that would improve the team's dismal start to the season, and you've recommended two guys who you readily admit won't make the team a bit better.  But will make them more entertaining when they lose.  Which is fine.  Your opinion after all. 


I've actually always believed that you'd rather lose with enforcers than win with euros.  This just sort of confirms it. 

#2633278 Mike Green out 2-3 weeks

Posted by rick zombo on 26 October 2015 - 01:01 PM



He got hit behind our net in the first period of the calgary game....




(there's a video in there)


I know that "technically" that's a clean hit, but I'm with Mickey Redmond in saying that I hate that hit. It's hard for a defenseman to make that play and see the guy coming. And the only way a forwatd makes that kind of hit is if he's trying to hurt someone.

#2631443 10/16 GDT : Carolina Hurricanes at Red Wings, 7:30 EST

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 16 October 2015 - 10:03 PM

You mean we weren't gonna go 82-0 this season?

#2628847 10/7 National Hockey League games GDT

Posted by rick zombo on 08 October 2015 - 08:53 AM

Some of us would kill to have this fool on the team, he is exactly what the Wings have been missing for way too long. A big, rugged, nasty powerforward that will score you 20 + goals each year.


Take Lucic, add about 75 IQ points, remove about 20 punds of fat, and give him a soul and you have Abdlekader: a big, rugged, power forward that can score 20 goals. No need for the "nasty" part.