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#2627574 Kane case headed to grand jury

Posted by DatsyukianDekes on 28 September 2015 - 06:45 AM

Overall I've been impressed by the way that LGRW and has handled this but the one thing that has bothered me most has been the "why would a successful guy need to rape someone?!" posts. Here's the thing...in all the time I've spent with these kind of guys, the scary ones have been the most successful. They've rarely been told "no" and often see it as an insult. This has been bothering me because if you have been told that your talent means that women will always want you, it can be genuinely confusing to these guys to be told that someone doesn't want you. I don't know if Kane is guilty or what happeed that night but it's not inconceivable to me that he didn't understand WHY a woman would refuse him and therefore didn't accept it. This doesn't condemn the woman OR Kane but just that I believe that consent is a difficult issue (especially for people with status) and this is something that should be addressed with players.


Good post.


I have a friend that was a baseball prospect that was drafted by an MLB team and I remember him telling me that when he was playing for a Single A or AA affiliate team he would have to attend classes or seminars on how to handle himself in public, and he had another class on teaching athletes about women trying to "accuse of rape" or "sleep around" with them to try and get a payday to help educate them (not saying that's what happened here). But like you said, it's always about them and never about the other person, so they don't really know how to handle the rejection part of it. You are completely right, when you are extremely successful and everyone says Yes to you all the time then hearing the No word doesn't always go over to well.

#2627389 Kane case headed to grand jury

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 25 September 2015 - 12:20 PM

If I were the alleged victim and the crime did take place, I would be *LOSING MY MIND* with anger at my mother for pulling some s*** like this. Now it doesn't matter if a crime took place. Mom's actions (fairly or unfairly) call daughter's credibility into question, and destroy prosecutor's faith in the case. Who wants to take this to trial with the potential for getting egg on your face, even if a grand jury votes to indict? What af****** sideshow...

#2627377 Kane case headed to grand jury

Posted by F.Michael on 25 September 2015 - 10:54 AM


Thanks for clearing that up.

No problem.


I believe the mother felt that her daughter's shirt was to be placed into that bag that the RN had provided...The Hamburg police protocol is not to use that 'hospital' bag that was provided - instead a proper 'evidence' bag was used to place the shirt in, and again - the mother kept the bag, and then went to her daughter's lawyer with it (keep in mind the mother had that bag since early August).


Clear as mud?

Has there been any explanation about what the mother was trying to gain by claiming she found the bag? 

None that I am aware of.


Me thinks the mother was attempting to 'help' her daughter...Not sure what was going on in her head, but then again I'm not involved in a case where my child was possibly sexually assaulted so I could only imagine what 'mom' went thru these past several weeks.

#2626318 Kane case headed to grand jury

Posted by kipwinger on 22 September 2015 - 11:01 AM


What?  I took the position that no one knows what the facts are, and our personal bias will in the meantime fill in the blanks as to what we 'think' happened.  That is called having an open mind before the actual trial starts where they present the facts. 


It seems that you have already assumed Kane is guilty, and that anything anyone says contrary is messed up to you.  That, my friend is your bias, and exactly what I am referring to.


Any more messed up than thinking that a woman who reported a crime is a money hungry liar (as quite a few around here have not so subtly insinuated)?


This woman has done NOTHING to have her character called into question.  She reported an alleged crime, and obeyed the directives of the legal system thereafter. 


What should she have done differently in order to be taken seriously? 


Not talked to the media...oh wait, she didn't. 

Reported the crime immediately...oh wait, she did. 

Refuse to settle the case out of court...Yep, did that too. 


Apparently, if you're a woman (and you want to be taken seriously when reporting a sexual crime), you better have never been drunk or horny in your life because god knows you can't be raped if you made out with a guy in a bar earlier in the night. 


This is shameful. What if you reported a stolen car and everyone assumed you were lying in order to defraud the insurance company?  Oh, that's right, it woudn't happen because nobody is insane enough to assume that kind of thing regularly occurs.  Unless you're a woman, and you report a rape...then you're obviously weaving a nefarious web of deceit. 

The most obnoxious thing about this is that nobody actually believe the b.s. they're spewing. 


If your daughter, or sister, or girlfriend, or wife, or mother reported an alleged sexual assualt, nobody here would think "well she was hitting on that guy at the bar, so I've got to consider the possibility that maybe she just wants his money". 


Nobody.  Would.  Think.  That. 

#2625956 Kane case headed to grand jury

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 18 September 2015 - 01:45 PM

Please get off the high horses and stop acting like Wings fans wouldn't be doing the exact same thing.

Speak for yourself. If this was Pavel Datsyuk instead of Patrick Kane, I would be heartbroken if the Wings handled it this way and would tap out until it was made right. I can't control what other fans would do.

#2625806 Kane case headed to grand jury

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 17 September 2015 - 06:36 PM

You know what is more disgusting than the Blackhawks organization not suspending Kane until this is resolved?

The fact that the Blackhawks organization gave Kane a *public effing platform* to paint his accuser as a liar. A PRESS CONFERENCE.

f*** Kane and f*** the s***ty ass Blackhawks.

#2624954 Kane case headed to grand jury

Posted by 55fan on 08 September 2015 - 05:38 PM

I would think a settlement is likely.  If he's not guilty, she's going to take the settlement and run.  If he's guilty, she may well rather end it with something than face a jury and have to recount the most horrific thing that's ever happened to her, knowing that in such a high-profile case people will be glued to every word.


If I were in her shoes (assuming he's guilty), I'd take the money.  Justice would not be served, but if you find yourself in that situation, sometimes your own peace comes before the greater good.  At least he's been exposed and other women will be warned.

#2624944 Kane case headed to grand jury

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 08 September 2015 - 04:06 PM

That is the problem : It will never completely go away if he agrees on a settlement. But processes like this tend to get very ugly for the accused weather he or she is guilty or not so it's absolutely understandable if Kane wants to get out of this without the case going to trial.

Things also tend to get disgusting for the victim in these situations, so while I don't *agree* with her settling if Kane is in fact guilty, I certainly *understand* it.

#2621828 Voynov pleads "No Contest" to Domestic Violence Charge

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 30 July 2015 - 11:16 AM

What af****** joke

#2620420 Ryan O’Reilly Charged With Impaired Driving

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 13 July 2015 - 08:56 PM

The only way this sentence could be more Canadian, is if it said "sorry aboot that" somewhere in there.

Was just gonna post the same thing :lol:

Kidding aside, I will never understand why grown ass adults STILL GET BEHIND THE WHEEL WHEN IMPAIRED. It's all fun and games when you hit a Tim Horton's, but when you are responsible for murdering someone the shine kind of wears off. Ryan, I am disappointed in you, your beard, AND your ridiculously adorable face and hot body. SHAME.

#2620410 Ryan O’Reilly Charged With Impaired Driving

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on 13 July 2015 - 07:59 PM

Less than two weeks after signing a seven year contract extension worth $52.5-million, Buffalo Sabres centre Ryan OReilly has been charged with impaired driving after a pickup truck collided with a Tim Hortons in Lucan, Ont.
Per AM980

The only way this sentence could be more Canadian, is if it said "sorry aboot that" somewhere in there.

#2616779 2015 Draft

Posted by twopups on 26 June 2015 - 08:15 PM

McGuire knows everyone and there families

There  is a PLACE the word you want is THEIR This drives me NUTS!

#2613461 2015 Draft

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 07 June 2015 - 08:48 PM


Arrogant? Blow things out of proportion much Frank?


From that article:


“I’m pretty confident in my own abilities,” Eichel told a throng of reporters and cameras Friday at the NHL Scouting Combine inside HarborCenter. “I know everyone’s making a big deal.” Eichel never intended to compare himself to McDavid, who will be picked first by the Edmonton Oilers. “It’s more of just confidence in my own self,” Eichel said.


Seems pretty down to earth to me, nothing wrong with confidence in oneself.



#2610727 The return of The Mule?

Posted by number9 on 27 May 2015 - 09:44 PM

Franzen will be back just so yall can b**** about his play for one more season

#2609659 Slava Fetisov: Giant Hypocrite.

Posted by Buppy on 22 May 2015 - 10:59 AM

To be fair, Fetisov was 31 when he came over. Kids these days need a little oppression, builds character. :)