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#2534749 Trial date set in Steve Moore’s lawsuit against Todd Bertuzzi

Posted by number9 on 21 August 2014 - 11:56 PM

IMO this was always a freak accident. Sure Bertuzzi shouldn't have thrown the cheap shot, but there are plenty of on-par or worse cheap shots that have been thrown in the NHL. The only difference is this one happened to end with the unthinkable. The result was certainly not Bertuzzi's intention, just like no player intends to end a career when they go airborne on a hit, or throw an elbow, or slam a head into the boards, or uppercut an opponents face. The intent is always to harm, but never this. The problem is 1/somelargenumber end up like this. That's the reality of fast contact sports that condones fighting. I hope that moore can get what he needs, but I also don't think that Bertuzzi should be burned at the stake for his actions. This has been hashed out a million times, but It's late and I've been drinking.




#2438557 Report: NHL to have 5 outdoor games in 2014-15.

Posted by Dabura on 23 September 2013 - 01:32 PM

Can I have an outdoor game?




#2533265 Tatar Signs 3 Year Deal $2.75 mill AAV

Posted by Echolalia on 29 July 2014 - 09:01 AM

Two things I noticed when I watched that video that Hockeytown posted:
1) Almost all of Tatar's goals came within 6 feet of the net. Tatar may have Hudler's size, but he has Helm's heart.
2) Several of those goals came in the third period, during a tie game or the Wings down by a goal. I wasn't sure whether there was any statistical significance so I rewatched the vid and came up with these numbers:
Tatar scored 4 first period goals, 7 second period goals, and 8 third period goals. This is especially impressive because the Wings only scored 8 third period goals all year (joke). Anyway, of those 8 goals in the third, the Wings were down or tied in 6 of those occasions (more specifically meaning his goal either tied the game or put the Wings in the lead. The one exception was when the Wings were down 3-1 to the Habs, when Tatar scored to make it 3-2. Then again to make it 3-3. I originally wasnt going to include the first goal, but because he scored the second one to tie it as well I decided to keep it in.) I didn't do any actual statistical analyses so take what you want from these values, but at the very least there may to be a trend that this kid gets better as the game progresses. I don't know how to statistically analyze "clutchness", or more specifically what the actual definition of clutch is. Scoring anytime in the third? Last 10 minutes? Down by 1? By 2? Anyway, someone with a better grasp of stats and clutchness can tackle this one.


#2533227 Tatar Signs 3 Year Deal $2.75 mill AAV

Posted by number9 on 28 July 2014 - 09:32 PM

too much money. He best get 25-30 goals in each of his years...this is the reason the salary cap was put in place. There is no way a sub twenty goal scoring RFA should be anywhere near this amount. But it is Ken Holland. He hasn't changed anything in his approach. This means Diesel will get at least $4M.


Also I still hate the "diesel" nickname


#2533226 Tatar Signs 3 Year Deal $2.75 mill AAV

Posted by dat's sick on 28 July 2014 - 09:24 PM

too much money. He best get 25-30 goals in each of his years...this is the reason the salary cap was put in place. There is no way a sub twenty goal scoring RFA should be anywhere near this amount. But it is Ken Holland. He hasn't changed anything in his approach. This means Diesel will get at least $4M.

You should probably look up what young 20 goal scorers get in this league these days. This is a good deal if he never gets more than 20, if he gets 25+ it's fantastic. It's also worth noting that Tatar is very much his own product, he hasn't been feeding off Dats or Z or the PP for his production.


#2533186 Tatar Signs 3 Year Deal $2.75 mill AAV

Posted by kipwinger on 28 July 2014 - 03:16 PM

I mean, in a full season Tatar's going to give you 20+ goals.  To me 20 goals is worth 2.75 million, every day of the week.  20+ goals and shutdown defense will get you 5 million plus.  Ask Kesler or O'Reilly. 

 

Tatar's getting paid what he should. 




#2532993 Hockey News: The 5 most evil hockey photoshops we could come up with

Posted by Euro_Twins on 25 July 2014 - 09:28 AM

Should have hired flashy to do the Photoshop.


#2533040 Babcock on using advanced stats

Posted by 55fan on 26 July 2014 - 08:34 AM

I was reading an article in The Hockey News in June and it was all about advanced stats like Fenwick and Corsi. The article said Datsyuk is the measuring stick for new stats as in if they test a new stat using him as an example and he doesn't do well, the stat doesn't hold up.
I wish I could find the original article online but I haven't been able to.

That's where I read it!  I remember reading something about Datsyuk and stats, but I couldn't remember what it was. 

 

Now we'll have to call him the Measuring Man.  Or the Standard Man.  Nah, Magic Man has a better ring to it.




#2532444 Hockey News: Detroit has the easiest schedule

Posted by Hockeymom1960 on 18 July 2014 - 06:03 AM

All I know is let's get this season started...

 

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#2532413 Kane & Toews Sign Identical 8-year, $10.5M AAV Extensions

Posted by achildr1 on 17 July 2014 - 08:24 PM

 

That was so aweful...makes Ozzy and Draper look like Daniel-Day Lewis clones. I seriously cant stand Kane in any sense...such a serious wiener.




#2531929 Holland Wiki page edited

Posted by Zetts on 13 July 2014 - 10:57 AM

Yea, but no one says what they'd do as GM. I bet if the average Red Wing fan became GM, he/she would make horrible trades and sign over priced UFA's. We'd be like the Leafs and our team would be build around guys like Kessel, Phaneuf, Lupul, Clarkson, van Reimsdyk and Bozak for the next 4 years plus. No thanks, I'll take Kenny, who's building the team with the draft, isn't signing any over priced UFA's, and actually knows how the cap works.

 

I understand signing Quincey and Cleary isn't "sexy", but they're only 1 and 2 year deals. That Niskanen deal is insane! Smith and Dekeyser are going to be better then him. Unless a team has drafted the player, I don't think any UFA should be signed for over 4 years. Do an online search and see how many horrible long term UFA signings there's been since 2005-06. The Wings don't have any bad ones over 3 years. The only potential bad one could be Weiss, but he's got a few years to still make the deal a good one.

Yes and Dan Cleary can play better hockey than anyone on this board too.  Like Cleary, Ken Holland is a professional (in theory), who is paid a LOT of money to do his job

 

Pretty much anyone in a professional field is better at their job than someone who isn't part of that field.  But that certainly doesn't mean that an outsider can't objectively see when someone is sucking at their job.

 

Edit: To add to that, if the new standard for managing the Wings is, "well, he's better than fans on a message board," we're in a s**t-tonne of trouble.




#2531822 Tom Renney could be leaving, too.

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 12 July 2014 - 12:03 PM

Calling Professor Larionov, Professor Larionov, please report to human resources...

 

I'm not sure he'd be the best PP coach. 

 

"Just make a perfect pass to the spot where you know Kozlov will be.  He'll make a couple nice moves in the corner and throw a no look pass to where Konstantinov will be, who is cutting back door from the point.  If Vladdy doesn't have a high percentage scoring chance then Fedorov will have already moved into position by the far post for an outlet.  Simple."




#2531782 Rule Changes in the AHL (what the NHL has considered)

Posted by Euro_Twins on 12 July 2014 - 09:37 AM

I think the helmet one is dumb. If you're in your own end on a pk defending and someone checks you, knocks the helmet off, somehow you deserve a penalty because you don't want to leave your team even more shorthanded to go put the helmet back on or go back to the bench?


#2531513 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by Detroit # 1 Fan on 11 July 2014 - 10:35 AM

CapGeek ‏@capgeek 52s

Dan Cleary's bonus is $1 million for 10 games played. #RedWings

 

This s*** just gets more and more comical, Dano is going to make 2.5 million next year :lol:




#2529249 Can Z and Pav do anything to protest? (not that they would)

Posted by rick zombo on 01 July 2014 - 11:45 PM

Or they could, I dunno, lead their teams by example and continue to be awesome. Which they are.

 

Seriously, these two guys are freakishly classy and they’ref****** consummate pros. What do you want, a whiny star like Kesler?