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#2549590 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by darkmanx on 17 November 2014 - 07:46 PM

Kindl and lashoff need to go, andersson, and trade 2 of helm, sheahan, tatar, nyquist, jurco and one of ferraro and callahan. If marchenko sproul and oulette arent good enough to play, when and if will they play.


Good thing your not running the team. Wow.

#2550596 Nestrasil Waived / Claimed by Hurricanes

Posted by number9 on 20 November 2014 - 10:12 PM

I was reading on hfboards, some of them are throwing a fit about this.
Its kind of amusing.


Which is hilarious considering no one thought Nestrasil would ever be a Red Wing during the 2013-14 season. All of the sudden he plays 13 games and suddenly we've lost a great prospect. gimme a break.

#2550304 Nestrasil Waived / Claimed by Hurricanes

Posted by Son of a Wing on 20 November 2014 - 05:12 PM

Last year: "Holland's an idiot! Best players should play regardless of waiver exemptions!"


This Year: "Holland's an idiot! We lost someone for nothing on waivers!"


Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

#2550288 Nestrasil Waived / Claimed by Hurricanes

Posted by Son of a Wing on 20 November 2014 - 04:35 PM

Most people hadn't even heard of Nestrasil a year ago and now he has all this "potential" and mentioning him in the same breath as Pulkkinen and other prospects.


Gimme a break...

#2550258 Nestrasil Waived / Claimed by Hurricanes

Posted by krsmith17 on 20 November 2014 - 03:44 PM

Why are people comparing Nestrasil to Cleary? Cleary isn't the reason Nestrasil got exposed and claimed on waivers. Cleary wasn't going to be waived, nor should he have been. Cleary brings so much more than what he shows on the ice to this team, the experience and leadership he provides, on and off the ice, can't just be replaced, and certainly not by a 23 year old kid. If not Nestrasil, Jurco would have been sent down, and maybe in hindsight that would have been the better choice. But where is all of this upside that everyone sees in Nestrasil? I just don't get it. He was a body on the ice for 13 games, a big body sure, but that's about it. He could barely crack the Grand Rapids line up last season and to be honest should have never cracked our lineup this season. It would have been nice to see him clear and provide some support down in Grand Rapids this year but in reality he probably never would have cracked the Wings lineup on a full time basis, not this year, not next year, not ever. We have a ton of more skilled guys knocking on the door, he will not be missed. We even have a player that we signed in the offseason who is similar in stature but much more skilled, in Tomas Nosek. Good luck in Carolina Nestrasil, unfortunately you will probably end up down in Charlotte after 30 days...

#2549067 11/14 GDT : Blackhawks 1 at Red Wings 4

Posted by number9 on 14 November 2014 - 10:09 PM

We only have 3 regulation loses. 3

#2549031 11/14 GDT : Blackhawks 1 at Red Wings 4

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 14 November 2014 - 09:48 PM

I'm stuck with the Hawks feed, and they just complained about subtle interference!  :yowza:



#2548880 11/14 GDT : Blackhawks 1 at Red Wings 4

Posted by T.Low on 14 November 2014 - 06:41 PM

my girlfriend is cheering for chicago. anyone have any advice for me?

Have sex BEFORE the game...you just never know how these things might work out.

#2548858 11/14 GDT : Blackhawks 1 at Red Wings 4

Posted by derblaueClaus on 14 November 2014 - 03:43 PM

my girlfriend is cheering for chicago. anyone have any advice for me?


A new girlfriend obviously. ;)

#2546595 Strong Penalty Killing, Lack of Scoring the Story of 2014 So Far

Posted by number9 on 04 November 2014 - 03:01 PM

Tank the season for mcdavid you say?

I'm actually really starting to get behind this tank idea. I'm not sure how well the tracks work on ice, but that thing would be a helluva big body in front of the net

#2548628 Stars trade Sergei Gonchar for Travis Moen from MTL

Posted by kliq on 12 November 2014 - 12:15 AM

the difference is nill traded away the old washed up guy and freed up 4.6 mil in cap space.


I never said Nill made a bad move, if thats the case then that's a good move on his part!




well, this team is going nowhere with its current makeup.  There are a few tradable players currently on the team, a few in GR, a couple guys that need to be waived.  I do think that we are nicely stocked with young talent and I'd hate to lose another prospect, I think that this could be a year that maybe we could dangle a 1st rounder out there either in this years or next years draft.  We are amassing a plethora of young talent, and pretty soon there will be no room for them...just look at the kids that are out of options next season, we have a lot of kids here now and a few more with no options next year with only a couple of spots opening up...it may be time to let loose of a couple older guys for the greater good along with a 1st rounder.  A nice combo trade package of maybe 2 NHL players and a 1st could solve a huge gap in our defense.


I do understand your point about making too many trades, but sitting still and hoping one day the team is 100% healthy (which will never happen this year) or hoping that certain players return to their former (WAY former) glory, is NOT making this team any better. We having gaping holes up front and on D. Hoping doesn't win Cups, doing does. Maybe nobody wants to dance with us, we all know nobody wants our scraps, but maybe up the offering.  Include established NHL'rs and some high draft picks.  I am all for winning with the players I know and love (well, love most of them.) But if a trade is made for the greater good (and I don't mean a 1st rounder for KFQ) and I have to say goodbye to an established player to better my team? It has to be done...

Ya, and all Holland does re-sign washed up players and refuse to cut losses where losses need to be cut even when better players become available, he still keeps the worse ones in hopes that they haven't already peaked....but they have. But that is fine, he is the greatest GM of all time and he will bring us a Cup.


Waiting also wins cups. You can’t just go out and trade for Hasek, and sign Brett Hull & Luc Robitaille anymore, it’s not the early 2000’s. We are developing our young talent while maintaining competitiveness.


You are saying that we are going nowhere, but you also say that we are amassing a plethora of young talent, aren’t these two statements contradicting each other? I believe that bringing up young talent is a better direction to move in then going out and trading picks and prospects for vets as well as signing average players for too much money in Free Agency. I admit we are not built to win a cup this year, but that’s okay. Making moves now for the wrong player can hurt a team moving forward.


You are also saying we should not lose any more prospects, but that we should trade a first rounder. Isn’t that essentially the same thing? How is trading Dylan Larkin for example any different then trading next year’s first round pick?


I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, but it sounds like you are frustrated that we are not winning NOW. I totally get that, I would love to win now as well. I think every person who posts on this board feel this way. The problem is the NHL is different then it used to be. The two main factors being the Salary Cap, and long term contracts which are stopping the elite players from hitting UFA. Then when an elite talent actually does hit UFA, you have 29 other teams bidding for his services, not 5 like in the early 2000’s.


It seems when bashing the direction of this team, everybody always falls back on Cleary and Quincey. If signing Cleary is the biggest mistake we have made, we have a pretty damn good GM. I would take Cleary at 1 year/2.5 million to David Clarkson 7 years/36,750,000 or the 50 other horrible contracts given out in Free Agency any day. Now if Holland signed Cleary to 5 years 25 million this past summer, sure fire Holland lol.


You talk about moving the older guys….who? Datsyuk may miss the window for when we again become contenders, but  what can Holland do? Datsyuk was set to become a UFA and when Holland signed him Datsyuk wanted to play here or in Russia, he has a No Movement Clause. Plus, does anyone want to trade him even if we could? I don’t want to trade Z or Kronwall, I think they will still be good once our young guys are ready to compete for a cup, plus you need vets to guide these kids. Who are we to trade? Franzen? Helm? Teams aren’t offering Bobby Ryan for Franzen & Kindl, or Tyler Myers for Qunicey and Helm etc.


My point, just be patient, winning appears to be coming. If we are lucky, it will be sooner then later :)

#2548620 Stars trade Sergei Gonchar for Travis Moen from MTL

Posted by kliq on 11 November 2014 - 09:36 PM

at least Nill is trying to improve his team...he could just sit on his hands and not do a damn thing to inject a bit a of life in his team. Sometimes you need to make a deal for a shakeup. Not saying I would take Moen, but Gonchar would be an improvement over Kindl...but so would a lot of defensemen out there. But, other than that, again, at least Nill is attempting to make his team better by adding players that he needs to improve positions, not holding on to the same garbage hoping that on some miraculous day they return to their form from years ago... Kudos to Nill for trying.


That is one of the biggest mistakes a GM can make, doing a deal just for the sake of doing a deal. I'm not against trading or free agent signings, but I would take what Holland has done over bad trades and bad signings any day.


Moves can be great for a team, but the key to being a good GM is making the right moves at the right time for the right players.


You want to see a team that makes moves for the sake of making moves, look at the Leafs over the last 10 years for a perfect example of that.


Unfortunately some fans need immediate gratification (not saying you, this is a general statement) and if things aren't changed immediately, or if there isn’t a major move made, they freak out.

#2548611 Stars trade Sergei Gonchar for Travis Moen from MTL

Posted by number9 on 11 November 2014 - 08:35 PM

Didn't he score in the shootout too? All our problems could be solved with some patty sunshine.

Shoulda never let Bertuzzi and Eaves go. Loved those guys, even loved their faults.



#2548579 Ranking Wings Players by Draft Order

Posted by Echolalia on 11 November 2014 - 03:09 PM

You could invert that list and make it look more sensical.

#2546453 The lesson here? Cheating pays off once in a while

Posted by kipwinger on 03 November 2014 - 04:11 PM

David Leggio is the same guy who did this spot on impression of Pierre McGuire while talking to his buddy Tyson Strachan whom we saw last night against the Sabres.