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#2248154 SI: Sidney Crosby to visit spine specialist in Calif.

Posted by Kira on 22 January 2012 - 02:52 PM

They don't need x-rays, all they really need to do is google it.

Rocket Richard
Art Ross
Pearson
Hart
Gold Medal
Stanley Cup


He annoys the s*** out of me, but that's a HOF-worthy resume he's racked up at the age of 24.

If he never returns to the NHL, I have to wonder what he would've accomplished in the next 10 to 15 years of his career. .



Yeah.. that and a buck might get you a newspaper.

If I had a s***, he'd be the first person I'd give it to.


#2248152 SI: Sidney Crosby to visit spine specialist in Calif.

Posted by Crymson on 22 January 2012 - 02:44 PM

SI: Crosby to have spiced curry and baked potatoes for dinner.

I don't care.


#2248148 SI: Sidney Crosby to visit spine specialist in Calif.

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 22 January 2012 - 02:13 PM

Maybe they'll take x-rays to find out what people see in him.

They don't need x-rays, all they really need to do is google it.

Rocket Richard
Art Ross
Pearson
Hart
Gold Medal
Stanley Cup


He annoys the s*** out of me, but that's a HOF-worthy resume he's racked up at the age of 24.

If he never returns to the NHL, I have to wonder what he would've accomplished in the next 10 to 15 years of his career. .


#2248122 SI: Sidney Crosby to visit spine specialist in Calif.

Posted by Kira on 22 January 2012 - 12:17 PM

Maybe they'll take x-rays to find out what people see in him.


#2320350 Does Babcock walk?

Posted by FlashyG on 19 July 2012 - 12:22 PM

With the spate of Free Agents seemingly passing us by/the perceived inactivity by Holland RE: preparing for Lidstrom's departure, does anyone see Babcock walking? I doubt he does as he's been a big part of shaping this team and working with them to create pretty much HIS system here. But he's got to be pissed now. As far as I know from mainly rumour surrounding forums such as this one, he doesn't like it much when he says he needs a piece or two and the management say we're all good so can you see this, or another such situation soon, as being the final push towards the door?

He is probably the premier head coach in the league and could walk into any other team, so maybe he does soon?

Just what I happened to think of when I heard the Weber news, because if I'm pissed that we've once again missed out on a guy that was supposed to be at the top of our list, imagine how he feels having to coach...


Why would Babcock leave? Holland has given him or attempted to give him every single thing he asked for this offseason.

He wanted right handed shots, - he got 3 of them.
He wanted depth for the bottom 6 - he has depth in abundance.
he wanted to get bigger and faster. He got slightly bigger, but a ton faster

The only other thing he said they need was a winger for Pav, and the Wings are still waiting on both Doan and Semin.

Holland also attempted trades for Rick Nash (a favorite of Babcock's), and #1 defenceman in Yandle and Weber.

Babcock isn't some overreactive fan, he likely recognizes that you can't make everyone come to Detroit, or force teams to trade with you. I bet he's overly pleased with the effort Holland has put in to try and give him what he wants.


#2320338 Does Babcock walk?

Posted by Crymson on 19 July 2012 - 12:15 PM

In a word: no.

Next question, please.


#2320129 Flyers sign Weber to offer sheet: 14y/$110m ($56m 1st 4yrs)

Posted by Heaten on 19 July 2012 - 03:16 AM

Its not Polie's call if they match it, rival or not, its the ownership, and that 20 million dollars Weber will be looking at next season that will dictate what they do. I could see if this were an offer south of 100 million, and less years, but the ownership of Nashville has shown time and time again they are afraid of long term financial commitments. I know you are a Ken Holland apologist, but lets be serious for a moment, we both know that Nashville has had the space to keep a lot of their stars, but they haven't, because of the tight purse strings of their ownership. And this would be a bold move, and even if it failed it would have been a good one, because they will not be able to afford other players had they matched. But it as I said every time the Wings names come up they are always off the mark and lose out.


You must be out of loop with Nashville's ownership. What you are saying was true 4 years ago, but that's not true anymore. They would have matched Suter's $93 million contract had they been given the chance. They can certainly match Weber's $100 million offer if they don't opt for the draft picks. If Holland offered sheeted Weber, they would most certainly matched... with a big smile and a pat on Kenny's back thanking him.

Your chicken little attitude and impatience is getting obnoxious. I can imagine what you would say if you stubbed your toe... "Damn you Holland!!1".

Seriously, it's getting old and your unrealistic expectations are proving ignorance.


#2320124 Flyers sign Weber to offer sheet: 14y/$110m ($56m 1st 4yrs)

Posted by FlashyG on 19 July 2012 - 02:42 AM

He made significant offers to both of the top FA's available this offseason, they chose to play at home over joining the Wings. He is after the next biggest FA available and is waiting to hear back, and had preliminary talks with the #4 FA, who appears to be waiting to see what happens with Doan.

On top of all that he's had significant trade talks with Nashville for Weber, with Phoenix for Yandle, and even attempted to get Nash from Columbus.

He can't make teams trade with him if they don't want too, and paying extra just for the sake of making a major change is more likely to land us in the lottery rather than the playoffs.

I'm not sure what you're expecting, but this has been the most active Ken Holland has been in an offseason in 15 years.


#2320122 Flyers sign Weber to offer sheet: 14y/$110m ($56m 1st 4yrs)

Posted by Crymson on 19 July 2012 - 02:40 AM

But that post wasn't just about Weber anyway, it seems all offseason hes a day late and a dollar short, instead of making a bold move, it seems hes content with taking this team into next season come hell or high water, and that's my problem.


He WAS making a bold move in being one of the major players involved in trade talks with the Predators. Sending Weber an offer sheet would have been foolish, not bold; the Predators would have certainly matched an offer sheet from a divisional rival, and this would mean a guarantee of seeing Weber six or more times per season for the rest of his career. It would have made even less sense in light of the fact that a trade was possible.

I understand you're upset, but what you're saying makes no sense.

If they could afford to match it then good for them but at least we would have had a chance at landing him. I guess all I'm trying to say is I believe that we would have had a better chance at signing him to an offer sheet rather than trying to work out a trade. Could be wrong - just my opinion.


It indeed could be wrong. I think it is.

even better,trade him at the deadline :devil:


The trade deadline is in February. A calendar year would end in July of next season.


#2320110 Flyers sign Weber to offer sheet: 14y/$110m ($56m 1st 4yrs)

Posted by FlashyG on 19 July 2012 - 02:03 AM

All depends on how much he signs for. If over $8.41m, it would be 4 1st rounders. Figure it will be in the next tier down which would be 2 1st rounders, a 2nd, & a 3rd.


And how's that been working out for the Flyers? I would say it hasn't been responsible for winning a Cup, but his moves did manage to win one in LA.


If the contract is worth more than 42 million, the compensation will be 4, 1st round picks. The CBA has a clause that is there to prevent long term offer sheets. The maximum # of years you can divide the contract by (for compensation purposes) is 5,

So even if its only 100 million, that would make it 100/5 = 20 million which is way higher than the 8.41 threshold for the 4, 1sts.


The problem is Holland is getting burned by being too conservative with his moves, and in doing so he's letting the team decline instead of taking a risk and possibly making a wrong move. There's an old saying 'Action is always better than inaction'.


As much as I wanted Weber, Holland was right not to offer sheet him. It makes sense for Holmgren to do it, because if his offer is matched he doesn't have to face Weber more than twice a season.

If Holland offer sheeted him and Nashville matched, we essentially negotiated a life-time contract for a division rival. It made more sense to trade for him and then negotiate a deal, and it appears Holland was one of the major players in talks.

There is a silver lining to all of this though, if Nashville doesn't match, a division rival's defence has been decimated even worse than ours, and Philly will be in a weird situation where they can no longer keep Pronger on LTI (you can't replace a player on Injury reserve with a player who makes more money). That will put them temporarily over the salary cap, allowing us to make an offer on one of their defenceman to shore up our top pairings.


#2319638 Red Wings make "helluva" offer for Nash, no response

Posted by stevkrause on 17 July 2012 - 10:08 PM

http://www.mlive.com...itch_for_r.html

Can we please put this to bed now? Also, those myopic posts about Holland not doing his job... Yea, you can't dance if you don't have a partner, no matter how much you try...


#2319639 Red Wings make "helluva" offer for Nash, no response

Posted by FlashyG on 17 July 2012 - 10:19 PM

I wonder how many points Nash would have playing on Datsyuk's wing compared to who his linemates were in CBJ.

esteef


I wouldn't expect him to improve his #'s much at all. If he was a sniper he'd benefit from a set-up guy like Datsyuk but he likes to carry the puck more than shoot it and I don't think he'd have the type of chemistry you'd want with Datsyuk.

Nash played with some of the best players in the world during the Olympics and his numbers sucked, I don't buy the excuse that his lack of production is the fault of his linemates.

He is what he is...a sub 80 pt player that collects way too big of a paycheck.


#2319280 Reminder: Personal attacks, trolling will not be tolerated

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 15 July 2012 - 12:42 PM

To me, this is the heart of it:

Avoid personal attacks against individuals but practice criticism of ideas. The focus should be on increasing our combined knowledge, not on putting people down.




#2318777 Reminder: Personal attacks, trolling will not be tolerated

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 12 July 2012 - 08:15 PM

So, you disagree with this assessment? :D

I think most SANE Wings fans would. At the same time, he is entitled to his opinion. Just like I have stood up for the refereeing that many people here think is ungodly bad. Does my opinion about the refereeing fall into the "trolling" category just because it differs from the majority? No.

To be totally honest, I believe they should be shutting down people who are levying personal attacks against other members. There is a way to have a great debate on a topic. Levying personal attacks isn't the way to go.

Absolutely agree.

Though I don't agree with the post you quoted, he's at least talking hockey. If people would stick to that we'd be fine. It all goes to hell when people start attacking the person for their unpopular opinion. Plus some of the smarter trolls toe the line and antagonize people without it necessarily being an outright personal attack.

I don't want to speak out of turn (correct me if I'm wrong fellow mods) but Matt and the mods prefer to keep things on the looser side around here so people can speak their minds rather than clamp down on every little thing. I think in general it makes is a more fun place to talk hockey, but it also does mean there's some irritating stuff that you have to live with on occasion.


#2318235 Reminder: Personal attacks, trolling will not be tolerated

Posted by esteef on 11 July 2012 - 12:14 PM

I love all you jerks equally.

esteef