Most of us said it mrazek is the goalie of the 2 that could steal a series and should of started game 1
Been saying it for years Howard will never be a winner , he doesn't the "it" factor
Mantha and his 6'5 frame should be screening bishop (who's just as big )on the powerplay
Was hopeful when Blashill came on as wings coach but right now he could take a hike for all I care and never come back , guy is so safe it's ridiculous , he has no balls and rely's on his vets too much
I'd also bench nyquist and maybe even Tatar cause there both just pissing me off , nowhere near as good as they should be ... Trade them both in the off season for some defense and grit , it's embaressing that abdelkader is the only grit on this team
[quote name="WingedWheel91" post="2667326" timestamp="1460497093"][quote name="nyqvististhefuture" post="2667324" timestamp="1460496509"] What happens if we win game 1 and lose 4 in a row after ? You were right and we were wrong ? Who the f*** made you the expert And where was all this Andersson love when he was here last year ?
Shoot, you mean there's a legitimate chance Andersson doesn't get a hat trick tommorow or win the Conn Smythe this season? It's surreal to envision, but I guess I won't be known as an expert anymore if that scenario doesn't materialize.
Sorry to be the messenger and hurt your massive ego but your far from the expert , where was this Andersson love before he got called up? Did you pick him up in a bar last weekend ?
3 points in 10 games, 2 of them n the PP where he's been replaced. He's not suited to the role they want from the 4th line.
What has brad Richards done on the ppl? Or anyone else for that matter ? Let's not play games , he's just being s*** on cause he's the kid and the easy target
Loads of players have went on long streaks this season without a goal
Hey Let's blame mantha
Why the f*** do people keeo saying Mantha isn't suited for the 4th line? No s***! You know who is suited for the 4th line? Helm, Sheahan, Glendening. You know who isn't suited for the NHL? Andersson. Scratch Andersson, play 3 guys that would make a scary shutdown line, and use Mantha in the top 9, where he can actually contribute offensively...
You know who doesn't belong on the 4th line? Athanasiou ... But hey he's a kid
I'm starting to think we're dealing with holland's family members here ... Well and the obvious boy crush on Anderson over here
Great idea genius. How the heck is El Chapo Andersson going to capture that elusive Conn Smythe from the AHL? Makes no sense to me. But MANTHA.... Nothing says "Top 6" in the NHL playoffs against the Stanley Cup runner up like 10 GP with 3 points to show for it.
Can anyone call up ken holland and put this moron on the team and give him powerplay time ?
It be nice to see him rammed into the boards ... It be worth the 5 minute penalty kill and multiple goals we'd be letting in
Right now we got Tatar, Nyquist, AA who can't play defense but have proven to be able to score and be effective in a limited role and that's enough of those kind of guys. We can't have half the team unable to take defensive zone face offs Mantha dominating the AHL playoffs And being a go to guy is more beneficial for his development anyways. He hasn't come close to being the leader offensively of the Griffins so that's a little concerning
Problem is Tatar and nyquist along with multiple offensive players we have , have proven they can go on very long stretches without scoring goals ... And athanasiou on a 4th , that makes no sense
Watching the gymnastics some people do to defend their boy, whoever it happens to be, is pretty entertaining.
Mantha was a defensive liability who wasn't producing. So are several other players, but most of them have a history of producing in the NHL, at moreso than Mantha does. Hollands quote, while harsh, was accurate. Mantha wasn't a key player for the Griffs last year. Expecting him from going from a decent AHL player to the savior in Detroit is asinine.
For Christ sakes Nobody every said Martha would be the savior , fact is he's a talented kid that can shoot the puck and is a if body in front of the net that can help our powerplay , how's taking him away gonna help a team that's had problems scoring all season long?
Athanasiou had also shown a lot of promise and skill and he's on a 4th line barely playing instead of getting significantly more playing time
Andersson brings the same to the team like a glendening can,helm and others
Lets just say it like it is our coach is a chicken s*** and would rather play it safe with the veterans than playing younger kids ... Don't come here and complain when we're scoring 1 goal a game
Because Andersson is a battle hardened warrior, deadly as they come - worthy of all the ice time he gets. It takes Steph Curry 0.4 Seconds to score as many points as Mantha did in 10 games. #notdeadly
Hold on, was that intelligence you just employed? I thought we weren't supposed to use such tools when discussing the potential impact a rookie will have in the Stanley Cup Playoffs? He had 3 points in 10 games... You mean he isn't going to solve all of our offensive problems even though we know he's awful defensively, and creates further stress on Pavel Datsyuk in his own end?
Hmm.... So you're saying that relying on a veteran in a 4th line capacity, while allowing the elite superstar (in the making) - who by the way sucked absolute donkey d*** last year - to develop his game in Grand Rapids is not a terrible coaching decision? This seems too rational.
Andersson is a hardened warrior ... Let's hope so he's gonna need it if he's gonna be a career ahler
Helm is a great 2 way player but in no way should helm be in a top 6 role ... Mantha who can skate,shoot and get to the front of the net on the powerplay with his big body should be here playing and gaining some playoff experience
Athanasiou who scored that big short handed goal against flyers to make it 2-0 and might be one of the big reasons we ended up winning that game and making the playoffs thanks to those 2 points ....is on a 4th line with glendening and Anderson playing what 5-6 minutes?
Is this a f***en joke? Datsyuk announces he's likely leaving so play it safe Blashill decides to stick them back together so they could have a goodbye tour and stick Larkin on a 3rd line with datsyuk's leftovers?
Nyquist and tatar's goal productions decreased jurco and pulkkinen isn't playing , mantha sent down and athanasiou is in the gutters .... Blashill was suppose to be this guy that came in that was gonna help bring up the kids but seems like he's just s***ting on them and keeping them down and playing veterans on top 6 role and calling up the new Dan clearly from Grand Rapids to play over mantha
Yet when the playoffs start and we wont score goals were suppose to be shocked?
Unless mrazek/Howard steals the show this won't be pretty to watch
You're probably right - but our D gets worse when that happens.
Can't get much worse than it is now , ouellet isn't spectacular but he's safe and can move the puck , think he'll help the team .... I personally believe one of Tatar/nyquist will be dealt to land a defensemen which should help us better
Personally not willing to handcuff ourselves with Quincey at 5 million for 4-5 years , sooner or later we have to play some of our prospects , it's very unfortunate that it always happens when we're forced to play them rather than giving them chances
What has Mantha done to earn a roster spot in the playoffs? Not a thing.
You could say the same about athanasiou , he's got 9 goals in limited ice time but hasn't taken the league by storm
The whole point of this is the wings would have a better shot with the kids getting more ice time and learning than the same old vets who have been lackluster all season , correct me if I'm wrong but the wings haven't scored too many goals this year? And we barely got in , if Boston didn't choke bye bye wings and datsyuk would be officially done as of today
Time to get some guts and play the kids , that's how we make noise in the playoffs not over working hank and pav and having Richards as a go to guy ... Things might be different if nyquist and Tatar were performing like they did last year but there not, athanasiou and mantha should get more playing time
Helm Richards in top 6 roles won't be enough to get us going
Pretty ridiculous blowing the last chance mantha will ever have from being surrounded pavel , Blashill was all about the kids when he came here but athanasiou is playing 5 minutes a game now and all the kids he practically coached in Grand Rapids are being benched
Jeff let's keep playing it safe Blashill could turn out to be a big mistake
Brad Richards and Anderson won't help us win a cup , having athanasiou and a sniper like mantha get more ice time on the powerplay and top 6 will
Whatever , at least we got 25 years now .... That seems like the only goal now
when Z datsyuk and richards retire at the same time
wings are in trouble
Richards? He's gone after this year and he's not bringing much to the table now
I really thought pavel would stick around one more year and not handcuff us with the 7.5 cap hit .... Now that being said and he's actually leaving I hope we insert mantha back in and let him play with pavel now and learn, I wanted him up a lot sooner to learn from him and hank but now time isn't a luxury
And I hope Blashill wakes the f up and stops playing it safe and realizes if we're gonna make a good run here the kids are gonna have to step it up and that means more ice time and not benching a sniper and playing AA 5 minutes a games and overplaying hank and pav who will only get more tired and not benefit the team the longer the playoffs go for us
It's time for Blashill to trust some of these kids , and if we are gonna have a long run it'll come through mrazek and not Howard