kerism17

The thing that excites me is our size and speed on D. Id love to trade Kronwall away and let White and Colo go.

Ericsson-Smith
Quincey-Kindl
Lashoff-Sproul
Ouelette

They all arent ready yet, but I bet those 7 will make an excellent group in 2-3 years.

 

You want to trade our best defenseman? You can argue all you want and point at his atrocious -9 but he IS our best defenseman and he isn't going anywhere. He's always out against other teams top lines for a reason. He's also paired with a rookie right now and as solid as Lashoff looks out there he is prone to mistakes. He will get much better and I think he will provide the same level of comfort and stability that Stuart did while he was here.

 

I would like to see something like this in about 3 years...

 

Smith - Sproul

Kronwall - Ericsson / Kindl

Ouellet - Lashoff

Backman

winnipeg GM: "man, that kyle quincey is looking really good. and only a 3.75 million cap hit? i wonder what we would have to give up to pry him out of detroit?"

 

I doubt Cheveldayoff is thinking that and yeah Quincey had a rough 2 games to start the season but he played really well lastnight against Dallas. He shook off the rust like most players and he made some good plays and did an outstanding job on the 2 on 1 to break up the pass and negate a sure goal. He's not as bad as most fans make him out to be.

To Winnipeg:

Franzen

Nyquist

1st

 

To Detroit:

Bogosian

Kane

 

 

Brunner-Pav-Kane

Flip-Z-Sammy

Bert-Helm-Cleary

Tootoo-Abby-Miller/Eaves

 

Kronwall-Bogosian

White-Ericsson

Smith-Lashoff

Colaiacovo/Kindl

 

Not a bad trade but I think Nyquist will be better than Kane in 3-5 years... and as much as I want Bogosian, Staurt is a huge reason I would be in on that trade... The guy is a hitting and shot blocking machine, which we desperately need...

 

DON'T TRADE OUR 1 unless it is for a top pairing guy coming back which Bogosian isn't.

We could really get a nice pick this year so let's not throw another one away. Time for re tooling was after our last SC final now it is time for a real rebuild don't want to see us looking for shortterm fixes just to make the playoffs.

Just look at some retooling teams they are trapped in mediocrity.

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I think Bogosian is definitely worth our 1st round pick...

 

I read the thread title and thought Vinny Prospal had been traded.

 

Sorry, typo... As well as Huskins... not Hunkins...

 

great thread. i'm sure winnipeg wants our trash for their good players.

This isnt NHL13. You cant throw 5 mediocre players into a trade to make it seem equal to get a really good player. 

 

I think this trade is very even but I'd also throw in Joey MacDonald to back up Ondrej Pavelec... What else would we need to give up? Bogo isn't worth any more than White, Kindl and a first is he? Stuart isn't worth much more than Quincey, Mursak, Tatar and MacDonald is he?...

I admit it folks.  I am indeed a Capgeek-aholic...


CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Zach Parise ($8.000m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m)
Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Johan Franzen($3.955m)
Danny Cleary ($2.800m) / Darren Helm ($2.000m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m)
Travis Moen ($2.000m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.500m) / Brandon Prust ($2.000m)
Drew Miller ($0.838m) / Jan Mursak ($0.550m)
DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Ryan Suter ($8.000m)
Ian White ($2.875m) / Kyle Quincey ($3.250m)
Brendan Smith ($0.875m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m)  
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m)
Josh Harding ($1.500m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS(follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiledwithout the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP:$70,300,000; CAPPAYROLL: $69,133,712; BONUSES:$37,500
CAP SPACE (23-manroster): $1,166,288

I really like this roster but I think you over payed on mostly all of the players you signed or resigned...
I would consider paying Helm $2.000m but I think $1.250m - $1.500m is around what he will (should) get.
I think it's also a slight over payment for Abby as well.
I wouldn't want to pay anymore than $7.000m - $7.500m for Parise but I would consider it for such a talent.
I think Moen is about right, but not the number one guy I would want.
I would love to have Prust but for no more than $1.125m... $2.000m is a huge over payment for him in my opinion.
No way I would sign Suter to $8.000m... I would rather sign Carle, Garrison or Wideman for $2.000m - 3.000m less and have money to spend elsewhere.
I think Quincey is about right.
And I think Harding is about right and I would love to have him back-up Howard but I think he's going to be looking for a starting job (possibly with Tampa)

Why no Parise? I know this is a fantasy because you have Abdelkader centering the 3rd ine over Helm and Flip over Mule, so why not have Parise AND Semin on either side of Dats? You have the money since you didn't sign any of our UFAs.

I hope Suter will settle in Detroit for $6 mil, since the Preds and every other team will be offering him more.

Why Brad Boyes? He had a bad season and you have him making $3.5 million. Is that your cheap role-player pick-up?

Where is Quincey? The Wings have stated that they want to keep all their RFAs. If you let him go what did you get for him? Boyes?

Finally, you have almost $8 million left, why didn't you sign Hudler for $4.5 over Boyes and get the guranteed 20+ goals that Boyes would struggle to produce? I know we all hate Hudler here, but sometimes he is the better option. A better question would be why didn't you sign a veteran (Iginla, Doan, etc) to come in as a role player WITH leadership for about $4 million?

I know that this entire thread is theorhetical and al lot of things have to line up for the my or the OPs post to occur.

I just don't see us getting Parise, I think he's staying in Jersey (even with their finacial situation)...

It's not about who is better Helm or Abdelkader (Helm is obviosly better), it's who fits best on which line. Abdelkader would fit better on the 3rd line with two other big bodies and Helm would be better suited on the 4th line with the energy guys with both lines seeing around the same amount of ice time, Babcock loves his energy guys...As for Flippula over Franzen, I would pick Fil over the Mule any day of the week but once again it's about who fits better on which line. Fil and Pav feeding Semin the puck, and Hank and Nyquist feeding the Mule...

And yes I have a hell of a lot of money left over but I wouldn't spend to the cap if I were Kenny, because the cap is going to drop right back down after this season, so why would you want to be in the same situation the Hawks were in two years ago right after winning the cup, having no choice but to ship off players in all directions...

Brad Boyes is a good player, just had an incredibly terrible year, like most of the Sabres. With a change of scenery and playing a smaller role he can return to his 60-70 points per year...

Hudler is never the better option, we have our top 6 set and he doesn't fit into the bottom 6. The guy is terrible... slow, soft, and easily intimidated...

If I thought we could get either Iginla or Doan I would pick either of them over Boyes. Whether you think it is or not, I believe this is a real possibility for the upcoming season.

Putting Semin @ 5.25 isn't realistic unless its a long term contract which Semin clearly hasn't earned yet. 6 million would be the lowest I could see him signing for. Same goes for Sutter, but he would be worth the investment. 6 million per must means he'd be a Wing for life. Boyes = Gomez LOL.. No thanks..

Semin is in for a huge paycut if he wants a chance to win unless he's prepared to head back to Russia to play in the KHL, which he very well may do...

Boyes = Gomez.... where that logic comes from, I have no idea... Boyes could be a good fit on our 3rd line.