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winnipeg GM: "man, that kyle quincey is looking really good. and only a 3.75 million cap hit? i wonder what we would have to give up to pry him out of detroit?"

 

I doubt Cheveldayoff is thinking that and yeah Quincey had a rough 2 games to start the season but he played really well lastnight against Dallas. He shook off the rust like most players and he made some good plays and did an outstanding job on the 2 on 1 to break up the pass and negate a sure goal. He's not as bad as most fans make him out to be.

We desperately need to bolster our defence... here is my trade proposal...

 

To Winnipeg:

 

Ian White

Kyle Quincey

Jakub Kindl

Jan Mursak

Tomas Tatar

2013 1st round pick

 

To Detroit:

 

Zach Bogosian

Mark Stuart

2013 3rd round pick

 

Detroit Lineup

 

Henrik Zetterberg - Pavel Datsyuk - Damien Brunner

Johan Franzen - Valtteri Filppula - Mikael Samuelsson / Gustav Nyquist

Todd Bertuzzi - Darren Helm - Patrick Eaves

Dan Cleary / Drew Miller - Justin Abdelkader - Jordin Tootoo

Cory Emmerton

 

Niklas Kronwall - Jonathan Ericsson

Brendan Smith - Zach Bogosian

Mark Stuart - Kent Hunkins / Carlo Colaiacovo

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Alexander Semin ($5.250m)
Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)
Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.000m) / Brad Boyes ($3.500m)
Danny Cleary ($2.800m) / Darren Helm ($1.250m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m)
Jan Mursak ($0.550m) / Drew Miller ($0.838m)
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan Suter ($6.000m) / Ian White ($2.875m)
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m)
Brendan Smith ($0.875m) / Justin Schultz ($0.875m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m)
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m)
Michael Leighton ($1.500m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $62,333,712; BONUSES: $37,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $7,966,288

Critique Away.....

Obviously you have never seen him play.  He is a St. Louis clone. He has a sniper shot and is fleet of foot.  Plays bigger than he is, and has a head for the game.  He is behind Nyquvist because of age, but is ahead of the other three you speak of... Even though all three of the prospects could end up being better players in the long run. Out of our forward prospects I would list Tatar second behind Gustav or third behind Calle.  I still say when you are looking at them, you have to take in account of who they are playing.

I know it is hard to tell when looking at a stat sheet... but then again Tatar has been playing against much harder competition in the AHL.  Tatar is playing professionals.  Going up against the NHL prospects.

The kid is still a kid, and yet he is one of three players in our system that is ready to play in the NHL right now.  I just don't get how you can look at a stable full of excellent horses and say this one  is worthless because these other ones are winning more easy races.

I have actually seen him along with most of our prospects play a lot and I'm really not overly impressed with Tatar at all. I honestly dont see him as a player any better than what Hudler has given us.
Are you kidding? A Martin St. Louis clone? Wow.. If he can become 1/10 the player St. Louis has been in the NHL I would be extremely impressed. Just not going to happen.
I Would be willing to bet that in 5 years time all of the other prospects I mentions will be huge impact players in the NHL (hopefully with the Red Wings) and Tatar will either be traded or the new whipping boy.
I hope some of the other GMs in the league think as highly of him as you and some others do, and we can package him in a deal to get a real sniper at the deadline.

Why is Tomas Tatar so high on our list of top prospects? Many people think he is our top forward prospect and I just dont get it at all.

I think Tatar should be behind Gustav Nyquist for sure, and also behind Teemu Pulkkinen, Calle Jarnkrok and Tomas Jurco, and even behind Jan Mursak in my opinion. I just really dont see why everyone thinks this guy is going to be so good. Someone please explain what is so great about this kid.

I gave you a plus because I don't see a problem with posting trade proposals.

But I don't think Burke would want those players, and from what I've heard (just on other forums and stuff) Semin is headed back to Russia after this season. Plus, Hudler is only 1 point behind Semin, so I'm not sure adding Semin would be as big a boost as people think.

I agree that Burke probably wouldnt go for the trade and McPhee probably wouldnt bite either but everyone here is acting like Holland would be an idiot for making these trades. I think we would be much improved if we could pull off these trades, which by the way I know would never happen, just having a bit of fun during these boring couple weeks leading up to the trade deadline.

Washington gets Hudler, a mediocre sniper that can help out the second line as well as PP, and two third line forwards that can add some needed depth as well as an upgrade in a draftpick. We get arguably the best sniper in the league that has done jack for his current team that desperately needs a change of scenery.

Toronto gets a potential second and a third line center as well as a potential 4th defenseman and a draft pick and we get another Filppula type player for a bunch of prospects and a pick.

I think offloading all these prospects to get two players of their calibre would be huge. Our prospect pool at the forward position is extremely deep and we dont have to touch Nyquist, Mursak, Pulkkinen, Jarnkrok, or Jurco...

Both Semin and Kulemin are having down years which brings there asking price down a little, but honestly all either of them needs is a change of scenery. I think they would both thrive here in Detroit and especially on a line with Datsyuk.

So you're still high?

Haha so in other words you cant even tell me whats wrong with these trades Hahaha

Just outta curiosity, who wins these trades in your opinions? I hope you dont think were losing these trades...

And yeah, scrap Kindl in the final lineup.

To WSH:

Jiri Hudler
Tomas Tatar
Fabian Brunnstrom
2012 2nd

To DET:

Alexander Semin
2012 5th

To TOR:

Cory Emmerton
Joakim Andersson
Jakub Kindl
2012 3rd

To DET:

Nikolai Kulemin
Jesse Blacker

Projected Line-Up

Kulemin / Datsyuk / Semin
Filppula / Zetterberg / Franzen
Cleary / Helm / Bertuzzi
Miller / Abdelkader / ( Holmstrom / Mursak / Eaves / Conner )

Lidstrom / White
Kronwall / Stuart
Ericsson / ( Commodore / Kindl )

Howard
MacDonald
Conklin

That is a scary lineup that can definitely push for the Stanley Cup.

Wait until the offseason (depending on what Lidstrom decides to do) to go after a big name UFA defenseman.

To WSH:

Jiri Hudler
Tomas Tatar
Fabian Brunnstrom
2012 2nd

To DET:

Alexander Semin
2012 5th

To TOR:

Cory Emmerton
Joakim Andersson
Jakub Kindl
2012 3rd

To DET:

Nikolai Kulemin
Jesse Blacker

Projected Line-Up

Kulemin / Datsyuk / Semin
Filppula / Zetterberg / Franzen
Cleary / Helm / Bertuzzi
Miller / Abdelkader / ( Holmstrom / Mursak / Eaves / Conner )

Lidstrom / White
Kronwall / Stuart
Ericsson / ( Commodore / Kindl )

Howard
MacDonald
Conklin