Count me in, BoS. I cried over the GDT. Beautiful job, Mikey...
I am sure the ceremony will be awesome, and beyond well-deserved. I adored Nick as did we all, and miss him every single game. I do hope we don't suffer the dreaded pre-game ceremony curse and consequently suck tonight. I am hoping the guys will be anxious to not poop on Nick's special night, and win this one for the Perfect Human.
Ok, well I think I may be the ONLY person here that feels like this trade is solid. in fact, I think it was necessary.
First off, we are stacked with young guys. Nobody would have predicted the success of Tats, Sheahan and Jerks for this years. We have a lot of young talent in the system but the truth is, I have to believe that the organization saw something in Calle that they werent comfortable with. With all of the injuries, if they had faith in the kid, he would have been here by now. That's the truth
Secondly, we are anemic down the middle. The game in NJ exposed Andersson. If we have ANY prayer of making the playoffs, we had to address the issue right now. July is too late. Legwand is a good hockey player that has consistently performed under pressure. The guy is a defensive forward who can help our issues with D. he also hasnt had a lot if offensive help in Nashville and he's a Michigan boy so I imagine he will be highly motivated to perform.
With the re-injury to Helm, DATSYUK out 3 weeks, Weiss's setback and Zetty gone until the playoffs, I honestly believe that we don't make the playoffs unless we get a solid 2 way guy. Perhaps before the news about Dats and Helm, we didn't need to address the issue but I don't feel the team had a choice.
I'm sure that a lot if you you are wishing that the " thumbs down" button was still available but I'm saying that although I don't like loosing Calle, I do like the trade, even if it is a bit steep. IMO, without it, we don't make the playoffs....with it, we have a great good chance.
They should convince radulov to come here to play with datsyuk they played good together at the olympics
It wasn't Radulov, and no thanks. He's a headcase and a terrible team player.
Someone's gotta say it...
Since trading away Jarnkrok, the Red Wings now face a tough decision. Who is the next player (aside from Mantha) that will be a star for the Griffins after their season is over. The answer is very simple. Hampus Melen will report to GR this year! There's your next headline people...just have to print the newspapers.
Immediate, gutcheck reaction to including Järnkrok in this trade: "oh noezzz! he was our #1 ranked prospect last year! Someone called him the next Zetterberg! WE GAVE UP ZETTERBERG FOR LEGWAND!"
Now, take a deep breath and look at the trade from a 1000 ft view.
Eaves is an obvious throwaway. I wish him well. The draft pick stings a bit, especially since it seems like we've been really starting to hit on our early round picks lately.
As for Järnkrok, let's state what he does well first. He's clearly a talented player whom many peg to make it in the NHL. He's struggled in his first season in North America, but he's been playing really well the past few weeks. He's an above average skater and good passer. He's responsible defensively. He's got upside, obviously. By all accounts, he's a hard worker who wants to keep getting better.
With that said, the Next Zetterberg hype is clearly overblown. Calle has 99 shots in 57 games - an indication of an extremely tentative shooter. Detroit has enough of those already. I've watched a few Griffins games and I've listened to more in-tuned Griffins fans talk about him, and he's clearly not been showing any signs of one who can take things into his own hands and try to score a goal when the time comes - the exact opposite of Zetterberg, who loves to shoot. Could this skill develop within him eventually? Sure. But that's wishful thinking, and I'm sure if Holland, Blashill and co. saw that potential in him, they wouldn't have traded him for a guy who may not be on our roster next season.
He's listed at around 5'10 185, and while that's not unlike the specs of Zeta and Dats, he's still got a ways to go, strength-wise. A guy with okay speed and a slender frame needs to develop some seriously unique skills to stick in the NHL (think Hudler, who showed he had NHL goal-scoring prowess). Going by the tape, those skills simply are not there or still a ways from being there. And if you're not showing those skills in your age-22 season, you're starting to value hope way more than reality at this stage in a prospects career.
Overall, the guy is clearly a talent. He's not unlike Filppula or Weiss in the sense that he projects as a 2nd-line guy with good passing skills and responsible defense. He's also not unlike them in the sense that he can't score worth a lick. We've had enough guys in this mold come through the Wings system, and the results have always been good - just never great. Things are changing for the Wings, though, with guys like Mantha and Jurco violently assaulting the twine as they've progressed. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Pulkkinen was valued more than Calle by the organization due to his shooting skills.
Bottom line: It is what it is. The Red Wings are in an extremely desperate situation at center, and getting Legwand helps tremendously to ease some of those concerns. If you think Järnkrok is the real deal, yeah, this trade kind of sucks. However, I think you may be slightly reaching on what the hype is all about with him. He's going to be a good pro, but I don't think he'll be making us regret moving David Legwand for him.
We could got Marcel goc for way cheaper, we coulda got either Andrew MacDonald yesterday or Raphael Diaz today
Goc?!? No one wants Goc,no thanks on Diaz either. Macdonald, maybe.
Legwand is a valuable asset in the here and now, Jarnkrok was just starting to play good in the AHL and people think he could have centered our first line in the nhl... Legwand was the only option here, and Holland did what he had to do to get him and try to get this team back on track. People around here act as if Holland just goes around trading our prospects away for candy, when in reality he never trades our prospects. His hands were tied, he had to make a move, and he got taken a bit for a fool, but he wasn't the one in a position to walk away. No one else who was traded today was a center. end of story.
I think people are a bit quick to stomp on the panic button here. What a lot of you aren't considering is Jarnkrok's verbal desire to return to Europe and play hockey over there. If that is the case down the line, Eaves and a 3rd for Legwand isn't bad, especially if Legwand re-signs here.
Look at how many we have injured and Eaves still barely makes the line-up. We have a lot of players that can fill in his role. A 3rd might equate to a bottom 6 forward in 5-6 years, the rarity of getting a gem in the 3rd doesn't outweigh the risk.
A lot of this decision was based around Jarnkrok potentially pulling a Kovalchuk and bailing out of the NHL system. If that happens, a lot of you are gonna feel better about this deal. I'm assuming management knows more about this scenario than we do.
Take a deep breath, this isn't the end of the world.
What does that have to do with anything? My point is the Wings have been following a recipe of mediocrity the last few seasons which leave them in the worst possible spot a team can be in: Too good for a high pick, too bad to be an actual contender.
Actually they've been rebuilding on the fly while maintaining playoff contention.
How this is can be viewed as a negative thing is beyond me...
Subban would instantly be our most talented guy on the blueline - just that he may have attitude issues (that all depends upon who you listen to).
Dumb as this may sound - maybe a little mentoring by Lids might get a guy like Subban to change his ways, but then again it's questionable if Babcock would want him on the Wings.
Our #1 d-man is Kronwall. I agree that Subban is better. But we don't need that because there's nothing wrong with Kronwall at #1. Everybody always seems to think you need a team full of all-stars to compete. You don't. We've got a #1, we don't have a #3. So rather than spend insane assets to get a star, just to say that we got a star, why not just get the #3 that we need and keep our assets?
And that's no knock on Subban, I like Subban, he's awesome...we just don't need him for what he'd cost.