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#2681506 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Euro_Twins on Today, 02:12 PM

1st of all, it'seems HeleneStJames source...
2nd of all, what was deal in place?
3rd of all, this franchise is so f***ed up that we can't even sign 4th liners.


The deal was a front loaded 4 year contract. That's all anyone knows. You can ***** that he doesn't want to sign here all you want. But obviously Ken tried to get him and missed. But you're acting like he never even tried. A lot of people today acting like children throwing temper tantrums because they didn't get their way. Guess what a lot of players passed on a lot of teams today. We weren't the only ones to get passed up on.


#2681248 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Mckinley25 on Today, 11:48 AM

3 years, 3.3 million.  Another solid signing that Holland was asleep for.  Could have added another dimension, but same old same old.


There's no guarantee these players wanted to come to Detroit, what is Holland supposed to do? The only leverage he would have is to overpay and look at the criticism he gets for that.


#2681226 Frans Nielson signs 6 year $5.25m AAV contract with Detroit

Posted by Jersey Wing on Today, 11:41 AM

OK, Mr. Salient here. A week ago everyone loved Holland for dumping the Datsyuk contract into the Arizona desert never to be heard from again. Probably eaten by dingos. The fact they had any money to get a good quality player (yes he's a solid #2 center and hey, would you look at that he can still wear #51) is partially due to the contract dump. Give Kenny a break. No, he didn't sign a player to put the Wings over the top. Know how many GM's in the NHL put themselves over the top with the players available today? Zero. Lucic in Edmonton, LOL Mongo pleeeeeeease.

 

If you're mad at Holland for the money, that set itself up in the previous years of treading water and not being a destination hotspot anymore. That's why you have to pay more to get good players and incredible amounts for great ones. Becoming a slave to the streak and keeping it alive has cost the Wings and it showed again today. 

 

There may be more help on the way...




#2680751 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by marcaractac on Yesterday, 09:05 PM

Would we maybe be better off say signing 2-4 guys like mcginn eriksson Brouwer backes and then turning around and trading both Tatar/nyquist in seperate deals along with a prospect/picks and getting one or 2 of trouba/brodin/fowler ... Or a duchene/landeskog maybe being available (long shot)

The forwards are older than nyquist and Tatar but it would enable us to get some defensive help ... Didn't add okposo cause I read his wife wants to go back to minnesota

 

Nope. Trade one of Goose or Tats if and only if it's part of a package for a dman.

 

Agreed on Brouwer and Backes, but would much rather Okposo than Eriksson. Goose and Tats canbe the guys to put up Erikson numbers. It's players like Backes, Brouwer, Okposo that would create the space for them to do their thing. Trading Goose and Tats to bring in Eriksson just doesn't make any sense. 

 

If we get a top 6 center like Backes and add a winger that brings a new element to the team, it would go a long way to help the more skilled guys we do have to play their game. What you suggest would just make the team a lot older, leading to even more declining players in 3-4 years. 

 

I think if it takes a 5-6 year deal to get Backes here, Holland should do it. He could be a huge part of this team down the middle for the next couple years, then become a role guy when the youth take over the top 6 roles. If he declines to a point his cap is a deterrent to the team, trade him to whatever rebuilding team needs a character guy to help out with their kids. 




#2680662 Stamkos to... Tampa

Posted by NerveDamage on Yesterday, 04:04 PM

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#2680675 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by kickazz on Yesterday, 04:40 PM

 
Too bad we want him, right BoS?

BoS wouldn't pay 7 million for Backes lol ( I mean he's not Sergei). I'd bring him in a heart beat if it was 2 years for 3 million.

What if we were to sign both Backes and Nielsen? Long-term, probably not smart investments. But in the short term, that puts a couple of very capable veteran centermen above Larkin and Athanasiou on the depth chart.
 
I don't want Larkin being forced into the 1C role before he's ready, and, at the risk of sounding like Ken Holland, I'm not confident that he's ready.

 
Nah.

Then don't put him on 1C and have Sheahan as 2C and Z as 1C


#2680670 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Hockeymom1960 on Yesterday, 04:23 PM

$6-7 million for Backes is too much. Would rather pay Okposo 7 million and upgrade Larkin to his center.

 

Too bad we want him, right BoS?




#2680256 Stamkos to... Tampa

Posted by marcaractac on 29 June 2016 - 04:09 PM

wings lost a lot of fans past 2 seasons.

 

losing datsyuk and not getting a big name to replace him hurts a lot

 

"fans"




#2680240 Stamkos to... Tampa

Posted by kickazz on 29 June 2016 - 03:57 PM

wings lost a lot of fans past 2 seasons.

 

losing datsyuk and not getting a big name to replace him hurts a lot

Say goodbye to the bandwagoners then. 




#2680093 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by NerveDamage on 29 June 2016 - 01:39 PM

This is how I pictured them pitching Stamkos an offer.

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#2679274 Detroit trades Datsyuk to Arizona

Posted by Jersey Wing on 24 June 2016 - 10:42 PM

A little song tonight sent out to one Ken Holland from Red Wings nation on WLGW.

 

Stax of wax and platters that matter, it's 11:39, 21 minutes before the witching hour on the eastern seaboard and here's Bette Midler




#2679233 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Hockeymom1960 on 24 June 2016 - 09:23 PM

Ohhh I'd love Backes on the Wings.




#2678763 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by F.Michael on 23 June 2016 - 05:32 PM

LOTS of people think subban is gonna get traded in the next couple days. Edmonton, and van, are front runners. confrimed by bob mkenzie,,,,,we should be giving up a ton to ty to get him if this is true. there gm talks to the media in 25 mins

Ok...

 

So what is it with Subban?

 

Is it that he's charismatic, or maybe just a bit outlandish?

 

I recall hearing that he might be a 'problem' in the locker room, but hell - I'd take that problem child any day on the Wings.


Don't want Subban, I heard he was a turnover machine.

We all know you're being funny...

PK is a piece of s***

Now I do not know if you're being funny  :g:


He hates charity too...

Damn that wing at the childrens hospital named after him for the exceptional donation he made...Damn PK Subban!




#2678728 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Echolalia on 23 June 2016 - 11:48 AM

what to stop chris chelios from having an i heart chris chelios pillow on his bed

 

edit: beat me to it.

 

and it wasn't even close lol




#2678685 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Dabura on 23 June 2016 - 04:34 AM

A slow piece of s***. But who cares, speed doesn't matter in hockey anyway.

 

Can Lucic play without the puck? You've got to be able to play without the puck if you want to have any success in this league. The best offense is never having the puck and always defending. Can Lucic never have the puck and always defend? Can he block shots? Can he kill penalties? Can he take faceoffs? Can he Luke Glendening? Can he Drew Miller? Can he fourth line? Is he a proven winner? Is he a guy you win with? Is he elite, elite? Is he real good? Is he heavy on the puck? Is he real responsible defensively? Is he real good defensively? Is he grit? Is he leadership? Is he veteran? Is he leadership veteran? Is he experience? Is he big? Is he physics??? Is he from the Michigans?????