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Member Since 03 Mar 2012
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In Topic: How about some love for Howard!

05 April 2014 - 12:01 AM

Why does it matter where I say this stuff? Do I have to be outside to comment on the weather? Is it impossible to comment about a storm from inside a building? Just because I say these thing in different places doesn't change the content, the rational, or the objectivity.
If it was up to me I'd have merged this with the already existing thread about Howard's play this season.
But hey, maybe the mods would like to have 1 Howard Bashing Thread, 1 Howard Supporting Thread, and 1 Howard General Disscussion Thread (where actual discussion of him could take place without people getting annoyed that there is actual discussion to be had, since it seems that can't happen anywhere without somebody getting offened)
Really I had just posted that in the comments of a Malik article and thought it would be relevant to this one as well. I thought it would be clear that I wasn't responding to anyone particular on this board, just that I had made a response to something said over there that almost certainly would have come up in this thread. I thought I had given enough info about it that it would be obvious that my quote was responding to something said over there, but i guess I was wrong. Sorry for being too ambiguous about it. 

There's not much I can do for you since you can't distinguish between communicating in the physical world and on the Internet.

In Topic: How about some love for Howard!

04 April 2014 - 01:04 PM

He has flaws. That's all I was pointing out. You know sooner or later someone (an apologist most likely) will come in here and say that, because he has improved recently, people were wrong to criticize him at any point, for any reason. I was just trying to get out in front of it. Sorry.
 
Edit: If we have Two threads for Howard, One critical and One praising. Why don't we just have One thread for all of it. You know, somewhere in the middle of those two extremes. Like an AVERAGE of those two opinions :bye:

Why are his flaws relevant to this thread? This thread is nothing but praise for Howard's play as of late, which is a very big reason for the wings being in playoff contention. If this thread was titled jimmy Howard is elite, then all your ciriticisms would be completely relevant. However, that's not what this thread is about. If you were saying these things in the "Howard is average" thread, your criticisms would seem rational and objective. Instead, you said them here. There's no way you can rationally argue that Howard's improved play has not been a huge factor in us winning games. This does not mean he does not have any flaws, nor did anyone, who praised Howard's recent play, say anything about him being flawless, elite, hall of fame worthy, etc. So for you to come to this thread and focus on his flaws, it really does make you seem to be a "hater."

In Topic: Canadians may be shopping Subban...

15 March 2014 - 12:28 AM

I'm not racist, when I see a horse I call it a horse. Simply put I don't like p.k. cause he cannot control his emotions, he has a bad attitude and only cares about himself. We've played Montreal a few times this year, and I'm pretty sure pk has more penalty minutes then any other player in those games, and that is simply unacceptable for a dman, especially one with his skill set and puck prowess. Don't like him and doubt want him here, he's not worth the headaches or problems, and he's probably a locker room cancer.

First, I would like you to go through my posts and find where I singled you out and called you a racist. In the very post you quoted, I acknowledged it is unfair to accuse someone of racism when I do not know what truly motivates him.

In Topic: Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

05 March 2014 - 05:40 PM

I don't get this line of thinking at all. if Callie made it clear he wasn't going to stay in the AHL next year then why keep him? It's no different than selling an UFA today. Jarnkrok didn't wanna be in GR and the brass didn't think he could play in Detroit at this stage in his career apparently. So what if he plays in Nashville? At least we got SOMETHING for him rather than just watching him leave on a place to Sweden.


Admittedly, My paramaters for Kenny's firing were a bit too broad (he should be fired if iron hook plays a single game for preds). However, unless he bolts to Europe after this season, it's still a bad trade. If he plays for the preds next year, and does well, OR if he stays in the minors for a short stint and is called up, then holland should be fired. Under those scenarios holland either severely misjudged iron hook's talent or he shipped the kid off for trying to take a stand against being kept in the minors until he was out of options.

In Topic: Canadians may be shopping Subban...

05 March 2014 - 05:21 PM

 
Yeah sure everyone who disagrees with something is a racist, its a simple fact that Subban, Kadri, Yakupov, Eller, Ovechkin, E Kane are having a football, NBA, soccer attitude and in hockey that's simple not appreciated showmanship, over the top celebrations aren't wanted period. Don't like what others are writing? Don't read its as simple as that. I have my opinion on this guy and I will not change it, neither will his supporters so really there is nothing between the lines.
 
The current best defenders are named Weber, Suter, Pietrangelo, Chara, Doughty and Keith why? Because they aren't playing like 4 forwards and are getting the job done defensively.


I didn't say everyone who dislikes pk is a racist. I did say that a lot of the PK hate is due to racial prejudice. I also said that there are people who dislike arrogance across the board, and that is a consistent and legitimate viewpoint to have. I didn't want to single out your post, because I didn't want to seem like I'm picking on you and it's not fair to accuse individuals of racism when I don't truly know their motivations. But, You really should have left this one alone. If you really think all showboating is the same, you PROBABLY would have agreed when someone brought up ovechkin as an example of an nba attitude. Instead, you said he has more of a soccer attitude. Now you're saying that NBA/NFL/Soccer attitudes are all the same, because it works with your argument.

Your reaction to my post (everyone who disagrees with you is racist) is exactly why I hate discussing race with other white people. It is exactly what I was talking about when I said many people stop listening once the "race card" is played. The fact of the matter is that racism is still a problem. When guys show up to the Olympics in blackface and subban jerseys, and a player gets suspended for asking PK if he slipped on a banana peel, it becomes hard to argue that there is no race-based resentment towards subban.