How long do you have to see a player or team doing something before you put a label on them?
Like for example I've seen people call Franzen a 30 goal a year scorer even though he has done it once.
I'm just curious what peoples timelines are for putting a label on someone.
For me it's 2-3 years.
That's why I've personally given Weiss the injury prone tag cause that's how his last few years have been. But if he stays healthy for the rest of this year and next then I'll remove that injury prone label and pencil him in as a reliable second line player(hopefully center).
I only ask because people call me negative by using this method. But I feel that usin a 2-3 year rule is the best way to form an educated guess.
The last two years the wings finished 8th. So my educated guess was they'll finish in the 6th-10th range just because that's been the trend.
If Tatar scores 30 goals this year some people will consider that enough to label him a 30 goal a year guy? I want to see it for two years back to back or two out of three.
Some people jumped on the helm bandwagon last year when he scored at a higher rate than he ever did. I was called negative for saying that won't continue because of several years of stats showing that.
Would people consider nyquist and Tatar proven NHLers yet?
The problem with Weiss is that he has been the player he has been for the last 10 games or so pretty well all his career. And you tend to base him off of a couple seasons of terrible luck. So in his case, he has shown enough to be given the benefit of the doubt. It's not like he had one good season, got his payday, then s*** the bed after the fact.
With young players, I hope they keep it up. I understand they are going to go through growing pains. I understand that they are going to make mistakes. But this franchise has been great at developing players. There have been very few one and done players on this team over the years.
Guys like Goose and Tatar are definitely proven at this level. They are still young, and might slump here and there. There is no reason to think that they will suddenly start to struggle big time. If Tatar is able to pot 30 this year, I see no reason why he wouldn't do it again. So yes, I would call him a 30 goal scorer. If he were to never do it again, I'd call him a former 30 goal scorer. Unlike Franzen, Tatar has always been a go to guy for scoring. Franzen's scoring just suddenly came out of nowhere. So when he goes through his scoring slumps I see no reason to be surprised. But scoring is what Tatar does. It's what he is on this team to do.
As for the standings the last 2 years, those two years vs this one were very different circumstances. Without the injuries that hit last season, this team we are seeing right now could have very well been last year. So the only way to expect another 8th place finish this year is to either be riddled with injuries again, or just have the older players on the team regress and the young players have zero improvement. Hardly a cause for concern.
I simply don't put labels on players. I see no point really. Kronwall used to be brutally unlucky with injuries. But things have changed. Helm had his rough luck as well. And of course most recently Weiss. But in neither case did this scream 'injury prone' to me. Just tough luck.