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#2609612 It's Official: Babcock to coach Maple Leafs

Posted by kipwinger on 22 May 2015 - 08:35 AM


I'm not so sure about that. Babs stated in his presser that his family as a whole start into a whole new period of life, if he stayed in Detroit or not. I think his main reason indeed was the challenge and what he can archive there.

In Detroit, even if he won two consecutive cups, there were others who have been there. Scotty Bowman have started build these Red Wings, he was merely jumping on board, developing what others have started. He now has the chance to become Torontos Bowman, even more than that. Heck, the last time the Maple Leafs won the cup, my parents were still teenagers and there was only a small hope that the USA might reach the moon till the end of the decade. If he brings it to Toronto he is an immortal legend instead of just the maybe greatest coach between 2000 and 2020.Sure, the money helps, but I don't flatter myself or Red Wings that it is money. It's something greater that we can't offer and I can don't blame him for taking this opportunity. Good luck Babs, you'll need it.


If that were the case then Toronto wouldn't have had to so massively overpay him for the pleasure.  Hell, they could have offered roughly the same money as Detroit and been confident he'd come to Toronto because they could offer him all the "intangible" things Detroit coudn't.  They could have offered him immortality.  Legacy.  Prestige.  Greatness. 


But it wasn't about any of that.  They had to massively outbid everybody because otherwise Babcock wouldn't have gone there.  They didn't give him that money out of the kindness of their hearts, and he didn't ask for it just for s***s and giggles. 


It wasn't about winning, or family, or anything else.  Eventually, as these things often do, it all came down to cash.  Lidstrom stayed with the Wings for less.  So did Datsyuk.  And Zetterberg.  And Kronwall.  Because they wanted to win here.


Babcock didn't. 

#2609600 Dylan Larkin turning pro... will play for GR immediately

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on 22 May 2015 - 06:47 AM

I have high hopes for Larkin but to think he is going to make the Wings squad next year is ludacris. He needs to adjust to the AHL for a full season or two. It will be interesting however how he fares against the toughest competition of the AHL off the bat!


Top 6 go-to guy in Grand Rapids >>> Bottom 6 support guy in Detroit - (in regards to what is best for his development)
Develop this kid the right way, don't rush him like we did Jurco. I understand that there is a huge difference between Larkin and Jurco, but Jurco was also a year older than what Larkin will be going into camp this season. He wasn't ready and neither is Larkin in my opinion.
Let's see what he can do in the next few weeks, but even if he puts up a point per game, I still say he should start next season in the American League...

Probably fair points, but if he can come in and start learning the NHL game without any hindrance to his long term development, I want him learning from datsyuk and Z as long as he can.

#2609203 It's Official: Babcock to coach Maple Leafs

Posted by roboturner on 20 May 2015 - 07:01 PM


People forget these things quickly. Backup goalie. Backup quarterback. Add GR head coach. Blashill better watch his back if gets hired for the Wings job, because there'll be a fan push for the new GR coach to take his job within a year or so no doubt...

I'm sorry but it really doesn't work like that. People wanted Mrazek because he looks to actually be better than Howard. People want Blashill because he actually looks to be one of the better options.


I'm not denying that fans will say stuff like that in some situations, but this clearly isn't a case of that and it seems kinda lazy and ignorant to reduce everybody's analysis of those situations (including Babs in regard to Mrazek and Holland in regard to Blashill) to "We WaNtZ tHE BAcKUP!!!" It's just not the case.

#2609167 It's Official: Babcock to coach Maple Leafs

Posted by darkmanx on 20 May 2015 - 05:10 PM


Down Goes Brown ‏@DownGoesBrown · 2m2 minutes ago

After years at the Department of Player Safety, it's nice to see Shanahan finally hand out a number that everyone thinks is too high.



#2609038 It's Official: Babcock to coach Maple Leafs

Posted by Hey man nice shot! on 20 May 2015 - 01:55 PM

God i hope kenny has some idea's going into next season. Because i just want to see the leafs DESTROYED!

#2607989 Babcock granted permission to talk to other teams

Posted by kipwinger on 15 May 2015 - 01:58 PM

You'd think don cherry could just write this as an article and give it to someone to run.



He chooses not to write anything at all.  Writing was invented by foreigners. 

#2607211 Babcock granted permission to talk to other teams

Posted by kipwinger on 11 May 2015 - 03:35 PM

Paying him 5 million or more, is so dumb.  That's way too much for a coach.  Babs doesn't have a magic wand that delivers Stanley Cups. If you've got a s*** organization, one that's not built for his style of play, or a GM that can't deliver, or a destination that nobody want to go to, Mike Babcock isn't going to change that.  Mike Babcock (@ 5, 10, or 20 million a year) couldn't bring a Cup to Toronto.  It's starting to get to the point where the hype is so great that every outcome will be a let down. 


After tomorrow there will be four coaches vying for the 2015 Stanley Cup.  None of them are named Babcock.  This will be the sixth year in a row that this has been the case.  I know everybody will list 1,000,000,000 zillion reasons why it's not his fault.  But the truth is, Babs isn't a guarantee of ANYTHING.  They didn't hand him a Stanley Cup just for showing up here in Detroit, and they won't hand him one elsewhere.  And about 90% of the teams he could go to will be more incompetent, miserly,  and corrupt than the one everybody thinks he coaches for now.  So why would there be a better result elsewhere?  Because Connor McDavid, or Jack Eichel, or Phil Kessel or blah, blah, blah. 


He's a good coach, but is he so otherworldly good that he's worth that kind of money? Some argue that he's better than Quenneville.  Ok fine.  Is he twice as good as Quenneville? Because he's about to get paid like it.  And when he doesn't deliver, then what?

#2607193 Babcock granted permission to talk to other teams

Posted by Wings02 on 11 May 2015 - 01:59 PM

It's crazy I've never been so on the fence about a red wings decision as this one. Usually i have a very good idea of what I want, but I will cheer just as hard next season whether it's mike or Jeff or someone not named John tortorella behind the bench. Would love Dave Tippett but not at the expense of watching blashill go be successful somewhere else

#2606905 Kronwall

Posted by Playmaker on 09 May 2015 - 01:56 PM

Like what topic on this board hasn't been beaten to death ad nauseum?  A topic that only comes up once a year?  That's almost an original subject matter.

#2606733 Babcock granted permission to talk to other teams

Posted by rick zombo on 08 May 2015 - 12:30 PM

All the best Babcock, his job got harder each and every year. Will be interesting to see what Blashill can do...Hopefully Holland provides him with a better team otherwise the ever so important streak will end. Get your cup number two Babcock


Unless there's another "positive surprise" in your future.

#2606423 ECSF: Tampa Bay Crying Coopers vs. Montreal Complaining Canadiens

Posted by chicagooverrated on 06 May 2015 - 08:48 PM

Lol bolts 5-0 since Coopers temper tantrum
Welcome to the new NHL where crying gets results

#2602916 Kronwall suspended one game

Posted by wings87 on 28 April 2015 - 07:04 PM

Really, I have no indignation left for this League. Well, maybe League is the wrong thing to call them. Maybe this works better:



#2602669 At What Point Does Holland Deserve Blame?

Posted by Nightfall on 28 April 2015 - 10:55 AM

You know how's struggled since Yzerman and Nill left?  Yzerman and Nill. 


This right here.  I know many LGW members are all over Yzerman's nuts saying that he is the best GM since sliced bread.  However, since he has taken over as GM of the Lightning, his team has made it to the conference finals once.  Oh, I'm sorry, that wasn't his team because he didn't build it.  Now, if it was his team, then Holland deserves credit for GMing the team in 98 when they won the cup, but I digress.  If you don't give him credit for that, then he has won 0 playoff series.  In fact, he has missed the playoffs and then got swept out last season.  If his team loses in the first round this year to a team that is not as good as his, I wonder how many will anoint him as the best GM for Detroit?

Jim Nill is the same thing.  He goes into Dallas, makes a lot of moves, and LGW goes nuts all over him too.  He is better than Holland, right?  Instead, Dallas doesn't get into the playoffs.  LGW is silent on him now.


Both Nill and Yzerman have had questionable signings in their short tenure as well.  So they are not immune to making mistakes either.


Anyone saying that Yzerman and Nill are better than Holland only need to look at the track record so far. 

#2602465 why marek zidlicky?

Posted by gcom007 on 27 April 2015 - 09:14 PM

He was a solid addition at first, but he's been a disaster in the playoffs. It's unbelievable how bad of luck Holland has with trades and free agency. Even when he seemingly does something right, it has a tendency of blowing up in his face.

#2599833 ECQF Game 4 GDT : Lightning 3 at Red Wings 2 (OT) - Series Tied 2-2

Posted by LeftWinger on 23 April 2015 - 09:38 PM

Lets hope Glendenning is ok for the next one..it was his absence that caused different matchups that completely screwed our mojo. 


But yeah, this game's on Ericsson more than the dirty play on G-dog. the first goal was just inexcusable. trip the guy and take a PK. 


That said, another example of the wings taking their foot off the opposition throat.


And whisper it to all the nay-sayers, just like last year Smith has been twice the player in the post season than in the regular. Arguably our best D-man tonight. 


Imagine 6 months ago how many people would have anticipated that come the playoffs a line of Miller, Glendenning and Ferraro being arguably our best line; Mrazek being 2 mins away from back to back shutouts in the playoffs as first choice starter; Smith looking as good as anyone on our D; and Abdelkader basically being a key first line forward.   Such a shame Cole got hurt as he brings so much of what would improve this team on the front end. Also a shame that because everyone in the NHL knows we need D, and most want to see us crash and burn, that the asking price for the wings to fix their problems is higher than for our rivals. Man, if Suter hadn't had man love with Parise our D would be sorted and we'd be challenging right at the top again. even Niskanen would have made a massive difference...

it was Helms bad decision that caused the first goal, plus it was Helm on Johnson at the other end, not E. So if someone was going to trip him, it would've been Helm. Also, Mrazek was 6 minutes away from back to back shutouts, not 2. I agree E made a mistake on the 2nd goal, but Helm caused the 1st goal, if he doesn't try to be fancy, thus game would've been over in regulation. This loss is on Helm.