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#2573616 Zetterberg leaves after 2nd Period; "upper body injury"

Posted by The Greek on 22 February 2015 - 07:48 PM

Yeah tried to search that damn quote, but no luck he basically was the fourth guy welcoming him to the new team. Wish I could remember which site it was.
Who is saying that it's out of date ? Some guys who want to turn hockey into the same ***** sport that soccer is (i.e eliminate hitting also and increase the nets whatever...). I really don't care what type of school some thoughts are what I care about is protection for our star-players and like McGrattan put in the summer "these guys should go out there and do whatever they want".
So yeah I'd rather be oldschool than hoping for something that will not happen! (higher fines relatively to a players salary or harsher suspensions).

Where do you get this stuff? No one said anything about banning hits or making the nets bigger.

I know you love fighting, frank; I've made it clear that I dont. However, our positions on that issue don't necessarily dictate our positions on the issue at hand. There is a huge difference between targeting an unsuspecting players head and engaging in a consentual fistfight. There is no debate that the former has no place in hockey, but the latter still has plenty of supporters. All I am asking is that the league punishes headshots severely enough to deter players from targeting the head.

#2573595 Zetterberg leaves after 2nd Period; "upper body injury"

Posted by The Greek on 22 February 2015 - 06:05 PM

Just read somewhere, that the Isles fans are complaining about Tavares taking a beating with Martin out with a broken nose. So I guess Brian Burke was right, when he said if the enforcers are gone the rats will take over we are seeing that now.
Sending a message leaguewide that you can't go after our starplayers without payback (either fight our tough-guy or our tough-guy will go after everyone including the other starplayers). I mean how much longer are people willing to accept that crap ?
I'm sure if a guy like Frazer McLaren tells Benn you either fight me, or I'm going after Seguin, Nischuskin...basically anybody from your team then Benn will start to think maybe it wasn't the best idea to punch Z 2 times in the head, because if he doesn't fight then someone else is toast because of his actions.
i.e 2.500 $ fine for a guy who made 14.000.000 that year.
it's unbelievable and if the league isn't willing to really do anything it should be up to the teams to take matters in their own hands and mean business.

Again, there is no guarantee that this will be an effective deterrent. If a guy is a better fighter than anyone on your team, what is stopping him from running your best players?

I never said a $2,500 fine. I said six figures (100,000 or more). I understand the league is limited to fines of $2,500, but a long term suspension could have the exact same effect of huge fine.

Edit: did you really suggest that an enforcer should run seguin if Benn doesn't answer for a cheap shot? You're really just proving why letting players enforce the rules is a terrible idea. If a player refuses to fight, he and his teammates ought to subjected to an on ice assault. Got it.

#2573562 Zetterberg leaves after 2nd Period; "upper body injury"

Posted by The Greek on 22 February 2015 - 03:18 PM

What happens if Big E gets injured? Benn gets no punishment, and we're now dealing with two injuries. When you allow players to police the game, there's no guarantee you'll cut down on cheap shots. If the rules aren't enforced, the league is just encouraging an arms race where teams place a premium on fighters. The problem is that some fighters are better than others. If you're fighter is outmatched, then there is nothing stopping the other team from running your players. This basically results In a situation where the rules don't apply to the team with the best fighters. Then you end up with something other than hockey.

#2573557 Zetterberg leaves after 2nd Period; "upper body injury"

Posted by The Greek on 22 February 2015 - 02:31 PM

Nope Benn should have had to answer for that in Maguire style. Nothing will come out off this if people are expecting pay-back it has to be done on ice if only guys who can do that were available ... oh wait they are it just takes a phone call to Toronto or Calgary.Running to the league like ******* won't teach other teams a lesson, saying enough is enough will do so. I.e Isles Pens 2 years ago

You're right, and that's the problem. If this was any other sports league, it would be a much bigger deal. Even if you like fighting, it should not be an institutionalized form of punishment. Even if someone did fight Benn, there's no guarantee Benn would get what he deserves. Benn is pretty damn tough. You're basically arguing that we must risk injury to another player in order to enforce the rules. Furthermore, in your ideal system, the best fighters are above the rules, because no one can "punish" them.

#2573541 Zetterberg leaves after 2nd Period; "upper body injury"

Posted by The Greek on 22 February 2015 - 12:11 PM

Benn should face diciplinary action for that. The league wants to cut back on hits to the head? Well, that was about as clear of intentional,dirty, hit to the head I've ever seen.

For some reason, Z's head doesn't matter. We all remember what happened when that scumbag weber crushed his helmet.

#2572515 2/18 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Blackhawks 2 (SO. Yes, SO!).

Posted by The Greek on 19 February 2015 - 05:35 PM

Why does anyone have a problem when any player uses the slow approach method? The league implemented a stupid way of settling games. People shouldn't be upset when players take what is given to them. Does everyone really think a shooter should skate it in fast, thereby letting the goalie use the shooter's momentum against him?

#2571945 2/18 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Blackhawks 2 (SO. Yes, SO!).

Posted by The Greek on 18 February 2015 - 08:57 PM

I don't know about you guys but I only butt pat gals.

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#2570829 2/14 GDT : Jets 5 at Red Wings 4 (SO)

Posted by The Greek on 14 February 2015 - 10:44 PM

I don't. Except you did it two games into the season and continuously find ways to bash Howard even when he has been great before a rough outing tonight. You want people to hold Mrazek to a certain standard and then don't do it for Howard.

You know what he's trying to do. There's really no point in responding.

#2570228 2/11 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Penguins 4

Posted by The Greek on 12 February 2015 - 12:33 AM

Most of the comments here are embarassing. I wish a lot of people would either play hockey at a somewhat high/competitive level, or shut up a bit.

What has everyone here been crying for forever?
"Let the kids play"
"Get rid of Franzen"
"Bench Cleary"
Etc, etc.

Guess what? All of those are happening and still no one is happy. Hockey has ups and downs, you are not going to win every game and sometimes you're going to get smoked. It's a curve, especially with teams like Detroit who have players who are still learning what it takes. You don't figure out the NHL in a couple games, in a stretch of games or sometimes even in a season. It takes time. They're learning.

You think Pittsburgh is in a different class than Detroit(someone said this)? They have more talent, arguably, but they don't have leadership, heart, compete level and usually no work ethic. Have you watched all the games PIT has collapsed in? Have you taken a look at their record against their division?

I get that this is an internet forum and the point is to discuss hockey and the game at hand, but it doesn't HAVE to be a hyperbole tabloid styled bitchfest. It could be real discussion with thought, not ripping your favorite team to shreds because they didn't "punch Cindy in the face!"

I've never seen you around here, but you're alright.

#2569425 What should we do with the Monster?

Posted by The Greek on 08 February 2015 - 03:59 PM

The Maple Leafs use goalies like condoms.

I've never used the same one twice, so that should eliminate the chance of monster going to Toronto.

#2568406 Marchenko recalled from GR... Ouellet sent down

Posted by The Greek on 04 February 2015 - 10:11 PM

NHL.com (http://redwings.nhl....s.htm?id=751825) says Ouellet was recalled... doesn't say Marchenko was sent back down.  Am I missing something?  Did someone get hurt?

I don't think so. I read that the wings are going on the road trip with 8 defensemem.

#2568328 TANK IT! 2014-2015 Season

Posted by The Greek on 04 February 2015 - 04:21 PM

I imagine Don Cherry's god spitting on minorities and not winning the Stanley Cup. 

This is literally the best post I've ever read.

In all seriousness, I love this thread. I also love how the metric for success seemed to change and eventually disappear. First, it was "we should tank the season, because this team is so terrible it won't even be exciting." Then it became, "we may be winning now, but it won't last." Then it became, "the season is a failure if we don't make it past X round in the playoffs." Now, the negative contingent has resorted to saying that everyone else thinks Holland is God. For the record, I know most of us have been critical of Kenny at some point, but one thing is clear: he is way better at his job than any of us are.

#2568234 TANK IT! 2014-2015 Season

Posted by The Greek on 04 February 2015 - 11:10 AM

Yeah well it's better than expecting too much and be disappointed at the end.

If avoiding disappointment is the name of the game, why be a sports fan at all? You would avoid so much disappointment.

#2566104 Greatest US-born NHLer of all time?

Posted by The Greek on 26 January 2015 - 10:21 PM

Forward: Mike Modano
Defenseman: Chris Chelios
Goalie: Mike Richter

Sorry for deviating from the format. I feel like it's difficult to debate which player is better when they play different positions.

#2560284 Detroit's Stifling Defence (TSN.ca)

Posted by The Greek on 03 January 2015 - 11:41 AM

I respect Mirtle, Yost and all their other mathfreaks but as soon as I see their name ---> skip article.
If I wanted to read math stuff I'd look somewhere else and not at a sports site...with a horrible design

It's ok, a lot of people are frightened by things they don't understand.