The Greek

I blame cleary for that one.  He had no business following Pav that deep while on the pk.

It will probably suck for 2-3 more years.  During this time we'll see more of our prospects and less of the old guard.  It has always been the MO of this team to grow their own players.   It's worked very well so far.  Philly has tried building their team through free agency and trades, yet they keep falling short.  I would rather go through a few years of low expectations than a few years of disappointments.

I was about to stop watching when Dallas cleared the puck. But,  when I saw it was Brunner with the puck I had a feeling he was going to make something happen.  I like that he kept going when all hope was lost.  I'm becoming quite a fan of this guy.

Nice disclaimer..seems like that is exactly what you are doing.

No, advocating something requires an endorsement of the action.  He's merely providing the lgw community with statistical evidence that indicates Sheehan posed less of a risk than some here are indicating. I don't think anyone is saying OWI presents no danger, it is dangerous.  

I just want everyone to ask themselves something.  When ascertaining culpability, do you consider the intent and state of mind of the person?  Most people see an intentional act as different from an accident just as we hold someone who is mentally impaired to be less responsible for their actions than someone who has their faculties about them? Granted, Riley was certainly responsible for putting himself in such a state in the first place.  This does not change the fact that he legitimately believed he was going to make it home without hurting anyone.  Otherwise, he wouldn't have gotten behind the wheel.  He may have been misguided in his belief, but let's not turn this into a speculative debate regarding his moral makeup.

Not to mention, none of us have all of the facts.  Breathalyzers can be frighteningly imprecise.  It is not clear how long it was between sheehan's last drink and the BAC analysis.  The presence of mouth alcohol can cause drastic fluctuations in the Breathalyzer's  measurements.  If one has consumed a drink within 15-20 minutes of breath analysis their BAC will be much higher than it really is.  Burps are another common source of "mouth alcohol".  Also when one considers everyone has a different body chemistry and tolerance, none of us can claim to be fully informed.  

Either way, this situation only proves why drinking to excess sucks.  I prefer more natural forms of intoxication.  When I go out to the bar with my friends I'll nurse one or two beers for the whole night while laughing at the drunks making asses of themselves.  When the night's over I do't have to worry about how I'm going to get back home.

When has he scored five goals in one game against the Islanders or the Blue Jackets? He scored five goals against the Senators in a game that the Wings won 7-5.

To anyone who is advocating that Franzen be traded: please explain who would replace the goal-scoring that the team would lose in such a scenario. Would it be unspecified upcoming UFA #752, by chance?

My mistake, I thought it was the blue jackets with regards to the game against the sens.  A far as the islanders go, I thought he potted 4-5 against them in 10-11, but after looking that up it appears I was wrong about that one as well.  Either way, I would only move him if we got a top 4 d-man out of the deal.  If he stays I think it would be beneficial to put him on the third line.

I get your point, but have a question for you:  If what you're saying is true then... why doesn't Dan Cleary pad his stats or score meaningless points?  Or Hank?  or Bert?  Or Flip????

Do they recognize the two situations you described above (no name opponent and or late goal in a game we have no chance of winning) and deliberately try NOT to score?  

You don't think when Bert was reeling this year looking for offense that he wouldn't have loved padding his stats?  Or Cleary??

The fact is that this guy can score goals more than most other guys on our team (in fact, in 2012...ALL other guys).  That is fact.

This is true, which  is why I said I'm on the fence regarding franzen.  I never doubted his talent level.  He did put up the most points, however, he seems to do so only in spurts.  Furthermore, he has a terrible habit of floating around if he's not scoring goals.  The other guys you mentioned are notoriously hard workers and still contribute when they're not scoring.

better than osgoods

For monster yeah.  But, could you see ozzie wearing anything else?  It just wouldn't be right.

I liked their "I Know What You Did Last Summer" logo better.

No way, it was the guy on the boxes of fishsticks



And the Blackhawks should totally be on the list.  They definitely have the dirtiest sweaters in the league.   MY only compaint about our  unis are the red sleeves on the away sweaters.

lol

You must be much smarter than the individual you are replying to.  I say this because you respond to his post with "lol". His stupid comment doesn't warrant a real response, and your comment adds so much to the conversation.  Thank you for posting.

a million is actually more than sufficient for injury replacements.  Sure, most teams would like more than that for security but until last year a lot of teams carried a million or less in previous seasons.


Pronger's LTIR relief has no affect on the Weber deal.  


LTIR cap relief constraint is only for during the season.  It has nothing to do with the Weber deal.  Plus, Pronger is all but done.  He also will not officially retire until the duration of his contract is up.  The Flyers will gladly pay him the money so they can have the cap space.  Pronger's money will not affect their cap hit.

Also, the Flyers are cap compliant as of today WITH Pronger's money on the books.  Once they put Pronger on LTIR then they have plenty of room to re-sign Voracek, drop Lilja and be done.  

This Weber deal does NOT ensure the Flyers move a defenseman.  I'm not saying they won't do it but they definitely do not have to do it.  

Also, for those thinking PHI is going to be out of the Ryan sweepstakes I think you're mistaken.  Once Pronger is on LTIR PHi could use one of the d-men everyone is talking about and some of the depth at forward as pieces to get Ryan.

It sucks because it's true.  Holmgrem has proven that he is aggressive enough to do just as you said.

I doubt that this will happen, but it would be awesome.  For those of you who don't want subban because he's cocky, that's jus ridiculous.  His on ice production is what matters, nothing else.  Patrick eaves is cocky as hell.  He walks into restaurants and says "hey, I'm Patrick eaves the hockey player".  So unless you have legitimate complaints about subban's play, give it a rest.

What's so bad about subban that has everyone freaking out?  The dude is gritty, talented, and young.

Those of you on the verge of a rage stroke should take solace in the fact that he is going to be in hockey purgatory for the rest of his career.  Do not take this as an indictment on the wings, that would be a signing with the pens.  This is a blessing in disguise.  Suter is very talented but not worth the commitment we were ready to make.  I would rather be successful due to homegrown talent anyway, not because we hired a bunch of mercenaries.  Now everyone go the f*** outside and enjoy your holiday.

Thanks for the memories.  Maybe this is a blessing in disguise.  He'll be alongside his sons for their development over the next few years.  With a bit luck we sign one or both of them and get to enjoy another 20+ years of a lidstrom on the roster.

Agreed. These premadonnas are a diamond dozen. It's a doggy dog world out there so these kids shouldn't be taking stuff like this for granite.

Awesome