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#2443985 Fight ends with on-ice seizure

Posted by The Greek on 13 October 2013 - 02:08 PM

I see what you did there.
Just to play devils advocate...  One could argue that the only reason injuries like this occur is because players are forced to play on slippery ice and balance on a single blade. 
Ban ice and skates and lets play on a rubber surface and wear sneakers.

Or you could keep those necessary elements while just banning the unnecessary element; fighting. Skating on ice is an integral part of gameplay in ice hockey. Fighting is not.

I get that you're just playing devil's advocate.
But it's only a matter of time before someone says, "people will still get hurt from hits, so you want to ban hitting too?" I hate those arguments because all they do is obscure the point, which should be the minimization of UNNECESSARY risk. Hockey will always be dangerous. I just don't see the benefit of making it more dangerous than it needs to be.

#2443977 Fight ends with on-ice seizure

Posted by The Greek on 13 October 2013 - 12:53 PM

But we need fighting to keep the players safe.

#2443850 10/12 GDT: Flyers 2 at Red Wings 5

Posted by The Greek on 12 October 2013 - 08:37 PM

Screw you newberry, you punk

He doesn't deserve to have his name spelled correctly.

#2443690 Mantha signed to ELC

Posted by The Greek on 12 October 2013 - 06:53 PM

Thanks joshy, you answered every question I could pissibly have on the matter. You should post around here more often.

#2442874 Will young talent ever speak out against Wings philosophy?

Posted by The Greek on 09 October 2013 - 05:01 PM

I think DeKeyser would have been sent to GR but his agents made it quite clear he wouldn't sign here to play in the minors.

It doesn't matter what was said before the contract is signed. DD got to stay because he has proven that he belongs on the wings.

#2442631 Will young talent ever speak out against Wings philosophy?

Posted by The Greek on 08 October 2013 - 09:14 AM

Is there no in between?
Does giving a couple young guns more ice time necessarily mean the end of our playoff streak?

Clearly not, when you consider last season. If anything, the young guys were vital to us making the playoffs.

#2442609 So....did Cleary just take Tatar's spot?

Posted by The Greek on 08 October 2013 - 01:04 AM


I saw that commercial. It just further proves my point. Babs and Kenny read LGW and they hate us. If that commercial isn't trolling, then I don't know what is.

#2442507 Steve Yzerman wants Game Misconduct penalties for fighting

Posted by The Greek on 07 October 2013 - 09:41 AM

Sorry for wanting the young guys and star players to be safe and comfortable outthere. I'd rather be a knuckle dragger, past romanizer than someone who is okay, with watering down the game even more so it becomes soccer or dancing on ice someday.

Do you really not see the inconsistency in your logic? You flip flop back and forth between saying that reducing fights would make hockey more dangerous and that it dilute hockey to the point that it is dancing on ice. Your position is so untenable you need to do these mental backflips in order to justify it in your mind. When someone says that removing or reducing fighting would make the game safer you respond that it waters the game down. When it's argued that the integrity of the game will be preserved even without fighting you just come back and say it would be dangerous. The problem is, your scenarios are incompatible. What the "anti-fighting crowd" (soccer moms as you also call them) wants is to reduce unnecessary injuries while preserving the other, necessary physical aspects that are actually part of the game.

#2442081 Steve Yzerman wants Game Misconduct penalties for fighting

Posted by The Greek on 05 October 2013 - 12:11 PM

Maybe just maybe if these guys would also be appreciated by the stupid media and some of the anti-fighting crowd their lifes would be easier? These guys are having the toughest job in the NHL and other than some fans, teammates and coaches they are only reading/hearing how useless they are and that they don't belong to the NHL how about that crap/bs? What happened to Rypien and Belak is horrible but at the end  It's not about me or anyone else being entertained, it's about players feeling safe with these guys on the ice, it's about on ice policy and clean up your game or someone is .

Is this a joke? Your pro-fighting stance is due to your concern for the players' safety? I'm sorry, but that does not make any sense. Look at the amount brain damage these guys sustain. For enforcers, drug abuse and alcoholism are common ways to cope with the the crippling depression that often accompanies such brain damage. Read that Boogard article. It features several players who talk about the long term effects, such as the onset of dementia. You cannot say that your position is in the interest of player safety. Despite your denial, your position is based on you being entertained. You even say so in your other posts where you say how you love hockey much more than sports that are less tolerant of fighting. If you really are motivated by player safety, then I encourage you to do some research on the effects of sustaining repeated punches to the head, or you just read some of the stories of former enforcers who have to deal with a severely dimished quality of life due to their lifestyle choice. You will see that hockey does nothing to make the make the game any safer.

#2441528 Nyquist taking things in stride, with class

Posted by The Greek on 04 October 2013 - 09:57 AM

I had no idea that six goals and twelve assists in fifty four career games earned you a solid roster spot on the Detroit f*cking Red Wings these days.  It's especially interesting considering Cleary's four goals and six assists in fourteen games during LAST YEAR'S PLAYOFFS doesn't even merit a 1.75 million dollar one year contract around here. 
Hell, Ville Leino had nine goals and seven assists in his fifty five career Red Wings games before being sent packing.
Nyquist hasn't earned anything...yet.

I would say he's earned a shot at playing on the wings. From there, he would have to prove that he deserves to stay. If you think he has had ample chance to do so, and has failed, then I can't disagree with you. That would be your opinion. I'm not saying that's what you really think. I'm just sayin that's the only way you can legitimately say he hasn't earned a spot on the team. Otherwise, he's not being afforded the chance he's earned.

#2440900 Steve Yzerman wants Game Misconduct penalties for fighting

Posted by The Greek on 02 October 2013 - 08:02 PM

Why should I? Fighting is part of hockey, just like hitting, goaltending, offense and defense it is part of the tradition of the game, it always was and always will be. I am not saying the anti fighting crowd should change their opinion, but if it's that big of a deal for people maybe hockey isn't the right sport for them.
I mean, I wouldn't watch soccer and complain about the lack of toughness or fighting there, because - unlike hockey - it's not part of the game there.
The thing is:
Players want fighting in the game, they love guys like Parros, Orr, Scott...look at how much bigger Montreal played yesterday because of the presence of Parros. MacTavish has been quoted saying what guys like MacIntyre can do for the whole locker room.
Think Cooke, Torres and Kaleta would still do their crap if the enforcers actually were allowed to go after them ? I don't.


Please watch the video. Most of those incidents occured during a time when enforcers were used regularly. It certainly did not stop these situations from happening. That's because violence begets violence.

As much as I hate Cooke, he has actually cleaned up his act quite a bit. Guess what, it was the league's sanctions that caused him to do it, not some enforcer punching his face in. If a hit is dirty, then it should be sanctioned by the league. If one of our star players are crushed with a clean hit there is no reason for an enforcer to fight him.

#2440614 Steve Yzerman wants Game Misconduct penalties for fighting

Posted by The Greek on 02 October 2013 - 04:17 PM

always a class act but I don't concure fighting IS r hockey

No it's not. Fighting is fighting, and hockey is hockey. That's enough semantics for now. If you look at his reasoning you'll see that it's quite sound. They are suspending guys for multiple games for a hit to a (helmeted) head, but it's only five minutes for repeatedly punching someone in the head. It's not like many of the good players even fight anymore. Back in the day you had guys like shanny and dmac who were both very talented, and knew how to throw down. Now, most of the fighting is done by guys who serve no purpose other than to fight and skate around for 6 'minutes per game. There are guys that would not even be playing hockey if they didn't know how to fight. That's very strange to me. These guys are allowed to perform at the highest level of hockey while not actually being skilled at the game. They're just very good at an ancillary, non-essential element of the game. That would be like the tigers keeping a catcher only for his fighting ability, just so he can protect the pitcher in case he is rushed by a batter.

#2440128 So....did Cleary just take Tatar's spot?

Posted by The Greek on 01 October 2013 - 09:44 AM

...my lord, what does this kid need to do for Babs to see him as the lethal threat he is?

Apparently he needs to peak, then start to decline.

#2440113 So....did Cleary just take Tatar's spot?

Posted by The Greek on 01 October 2013 - 07:49 AM

Yeah....Cleary took Tat's 3rd line minutes. And Bertuzzi is in the way of Nyquist playing on the other wing.
"...tie goes to the veteran, not the kid. That's just life."
No, Mike, that's just you....

It's clear, he and Kenny read our posts, and they hate us.

#2440085 Emmerton on Waivers

Posted by The Greek on 01 October 2013 - 12:06 AM

I'm thinking oueletts up for one of two reasons, either there's a trade in the works, or they really have no idea what theyre going to do when players get healthy and don't wanna use up nyquists two games.

The trade route could also be why coreau is up instead of mrazek, but it could just be the easiest way to get cap/roster compliant.

Those guys could all be traded without calling them up. Malik gives a pretty good explanation of what's going on. http://kuklaskorner....llet-recalled-t